KBV e-liquid problems

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bonniegirl

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As many know, I was a DIYer for a few years. I found KBV e-liquids and found my e-liquid supplier of choice. I have had many favorites over the last 7 months, since they opened and find I now have a new "problem" with their "joose."(That is what they call their e-liquids.)
I love KBV e-liquids. My dusty DIY supplies may go into the classies. But, I now have 2 big problems with KBV e-liquids.
The first is aging. KBV is great straight out of the mailbox, but, I am now finding a few MLs here and there of aged KBV flavors,left behind after getting "hooked" on a newer flavor of theirs...........Their many, delicious flavors are now multiplied by 2. Each flavor becomes a new flavor with aging. I loved the flavor called OMG. OMG was one of the original flagship flavors, and I was a big fan. I vaped over a dozen ounces in the first months of KBV's existence. I recently was very low of my 5 favorites and shuffled frantically through drawer number two of one of my three drawer e-cig cabinets (those plastic stackables ones with 3 drawers) and found about 5 mls left in an ounce bottle of OMG. I figured, why not finish that off. It was dated January 2011. OMG!!!!! This OMG has become new...........different..........delicious! Don't get me wrong, the OMG out of the mail is wonderful with hints of vanilla, caramel,and a slight cappuccino back note which is pleasant enough to please even the most discernible coffee lover or those, like me, which only drink coffee HOT in the morning.The OMG coffee note is a slight hint, not overpowering and IMO can not be considered a coffee vape. What it does taste like is quite subjective, seems everyone "gets" something different from it but all agree that OMG is OMG. Aged OMG has a softer tone and a more mellow melding of the flavors. The caramel does what all caramel does in the flavor/vape world. It ages and becomes luscious. I have become a seeker of aged OMG. I am vaping nic strengths twice my usual, as a friend sent a bottle at 24mg after a plead on the KBV Hidey Hole forum on their website. I am now revisiting some of my older loves from KBV and finding the same is true of many of their e-liquids, I just never left any behind to find it out.:facepalm:
The second huge problem I am having is their product development. Yeah, they send what they call "Bait A" samples with every order, even if your order is for merely a one half ounce bottle. With all of the "teasing" from these new delicious flavors, I am like a fish grabbing at the bait. My bank account and e-cig spending budget are all amuck. When the new "toll bridge cookies" was sent, I vaped the 3ml bottle in one sitting. Then, had to order an ounce. The same was true of the "V spot," "Hummingbird nectar,pebble path, waffles, rice Krispity treat,and one of the best flavors, IMHO, Butter rum pecan ice cream. WOW.........all delish and vaped regularly. I still return to the old reliables like Tootsie rolly, Mommas Angel wings, Fiddle Paddle, KBV Bar, warm sugar cookie and of course maple frosted rolls. BUT..............now that I have these new "problems" of aging making a more delicious flavor and new flavors being developed, I am stressed out trying to decide what joose to vape as I love soooo many and my husband has caught on to the grocery store embezzlement of asking for "cash back" after paying with the debit card from the account used for household expenses. Yeah, I deposit it into the paypal designated account for new KBV flavors...........I admit it, I am powerless over my addiction to KBV flavors. "God, grant me the serenity to accept the fact that KBV makes the best e-liquid, the courage to continue finding new ways of embezzling and the wisdom to choose the right flavor with the right food, drink, emotion, mood..........":blink:
Yes...............It is true, Kick Bass Vapor "lured me in" and they kicked my bass with all their delicious clean flavors.:p
*sneaks away to take something for the nic headache...........whew, how do you folks vape 24mg?*:blush:
 

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I just placed an order with KBV yesterday. To date I have not tried any of their juices but I've read some amazing reviews on them.

I got Troll Bridge, Crisp Cola, and Monkey Bread.

After your read I'm tempted to let them steep for weeks, and just place another order, but I doubt I'll be able to resist them that long.
 

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I just made my first order with kbv and ordered omg and ry4. I'm excited!
And correct me if I'm wrong, but once a juice is steeped it's steeped, no? For example, regardless if it's steeped for 2 weeks or 2 years it won't taste any different. Once a juice is steeped it's steeped I thought.

I'm not a steeping expert but I do believe after awhile the nicotine starts to lose its potency so if the nic is important to you there's such a thing as too steeped (aged) whichever term you prefer.
 

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In my limited experience, there's a difference between steeping and aging. Steeping allows flavors to fully combine and lets oxygen work with the brew; this causes nicotine to darken, but I don't know that it reduces potency. Aging is harder to define, and I'm no chemist. In my experience, some juices improve radically with age, provided they've been kept in a cool dark place. So yeah, the "steeping" only happens during the first month or so, after that, it's aging. Does that make sense? I'm not even sure I'm correct; my history with aging juice though has yielded some pretty spectacular results. And, I find that different juices steep/age differently. As bonnie nots above, caramel gets better, but some flavors don't age well at all.
 

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spot on Ciego.........IMHO chocolates do not not Bode well usually.............BUT, the KBV bar steeps and ages very well.
I am a big Mommas Angel wings fan but only like it fresh and not well steeped. That is JMHO and I imagine others feel different. Now........off to find someone who loves aged MAW to trade for aged OMG.............BWAHAHAHAHA
So many artisan flavors and so little vape time, perhaps in your spare time you could make a mod that vapes while one is sleeping!
 

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I tried alittle experiment from another thread with a couple of ml of OMG. I put 3ml in the microwave for 3 secs till it was warm in a glass bottle shook it and let it sit for a hour or so and shook it again. It made it awesome just like the few ml I put away a month or so ago :)

*rushes to microwave*:blush:

Thanks Kellie!:laugh:
 

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I placed an order with KBV and it shipped today....I'm gunna stalk the heck outta the mailman...WHERES MY JOOSE?!?!?!? :)

Good to read all these posts on them..this is my first order

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I was worried when I ordered a couple weeks ago beause Ihad read so many good reviews my expectations were pretty high but they didnot disappoint.
 

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Yeah, it's amazing. KBV is quite literally a "Mom and Pop" business. On one hand, I am thrilled for their success, but on the other I worry that their growing popularity will cause them to work too hard and eventually burn out on making some of the best e-liquid in the world. I haven't been vaping as long as many here have, but I have tried juice from at least a dozen vendors, including Dekang and several U.S. companies; KBV has consistently provided the best flavors, wonderful low prices (cheaper than Chinese juices) and the best customer service I have ever encountered. I sure hope that their success doesn't spoil them or cause them to quit.

BTW, I found another juice that doesn't steep particularly well: Refreshing Cantaloupe. It doesn't get better; in fact, it changes very little if at all.

Vape 'em if you got 'em.

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I have not tried KBV yet and have been looking around for something new.
Chocolate has been one of my favorite vapes but seems it has to be fresh.
To me chocolate doesnt age well and gets nasty.
So I am going to have to give OMG a try and see if I like this one.
Thanks guys for the post - I think ya talked me into it lol.
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OMG is delicious. There are also new flavors, chocoalte cake and mocha ice cream that are doing very well too. The troll bridge cookies are also very chocolucious. :)


I have not tried KBV yet and have been looking around for something new.
Chocolate has been one of my favorite vapes but seems it has to be fresh.
To me chocolate doesnt age well and gets nasty.
So I am going to have to give OMG a try and see if I like this one.
Thanks guys for the post - I think ya talked me into it lol.
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Agree achtungbaby..............That "toll Bridge cookie" ages well. OMG(Not the joose) you can taste the chocolate bits and on exhale get a lovely brown edge of the cookie taste.............Artisan quality joose IMHO.

YES, I stand by my review of Mommas Angel Wings........a rice pudding like flavor.............THAT is the most unique, intriguing and artisan blend I have ever tasted and I have tasted a "few"...............see my join date and multiply a 5-10ml per day vape habit and LMK what the math comes out to..............It is HARD to keep those bottles around long enough to taste it steeped.......I purposefully put a 15 ml bottle away and tried it. Delicious, but IMHO, better when fresh..........that is "ODD".......well, KBV joose IS "ODD"
@gotcoffee.........we vets know good stuff when we vape it...........nice to see Vets and newbs alike are enjoying this vendor. Join date tells a lot.............Vets have tasted many vendors, have good taste buds and can recognize quality cause we all have tasted many poor e-liquids.:blush:
 
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Well... I DID get my shipment and WOW!!! They are awesome!! You're right..the Customer Service here is THE BEST!! I had a couple issues and boB helped out and fixed them immediately.

I got Tootsie Rolly, S'Mores and Candy Bar.. all of them excellent!!! They also gave me a sample of Gooey Cake Batter but I haven't tried it yet....

I give them a 10+

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