Kicked out of pub for vaping in York!

[Huffelpuff]

Well, nothing ventured nothing gained. I would be all up in arms if it wasn't an adult environment but at a pub? C'mon, wasn't so long ago smoking analogs was allowed in any bar (where I'm from anyway).

Sometimes a little good can come from a negative interaction. If just 1 person reads that article and quits, I consider you a hero. I'm not condoning running around and ticking people off for reaction but a bit of press doesn't hurt the industry a bit.

 

[Fletch]

I remember those days too, not so long ago when you could smoke in any public area. I also remember the strong argument opposing the decision to ban smoking in public areas due to the 'damage' it would cause to incomes for landlords. Now, there is a 'work-around' available, for want of a better word, to try and bring back some of the business that was potentially lost. You would think they would jump at the chance and welcome it with open arms! Each to their own as they say

 

[DC2]

Some of us just want to vape and quit smoking, not all of us want to go out and lobby for e-cigs. Just my

Without the people spending a little time to lobby for them, you might not have one in your hand right now.
And without the same amount of effort going forward, you might lose the one you have.

I understand not everyone is cut out for lobbying.
But a certain amount of support is helpful.

Just something to consider.
And I welcome your thoughts on the matter.

 

[Nashy08]

Without the people spending a little time to lobby for them, you might not have one in your hand right now.
And without the same amount of effort going forward, you might lose the one you have.

I understand not everyone is cut out for lobbying.
But a certain amount of support is helpful.

Just something to consider.
And I welcome your thoughts on the matter.

I'm not saying lobbying is bad, I appreciate what you guys do. You guys have all my support, especially CASAA and I try to follow through email as much as I can.

 

[DaveP]

When the major news outlets declare the safety of ecigs and state the medical facts about ecig vapor, then we will be accepted. Even the FDA has slanted their reports to make ecigs look suspicious.

It's new and untested in the eyes of the public. Eventually, we will get the message out. In the meantime, smokers are miffed at the fact that they get kicked out of places for smoking and they don't like it when they see us vape inside.

I'm a stealth vapor. Only once have I been challenged and that was in a Huddle House restaurant. When I showed my ecig to the waitress, she called the other employees over to my table so I could explain how it worked. They walked away with the URL for ECF so they could check out vaping. You can turn it for good if you have the right information when you are challenged, but don't be self righteous if they don't allow it. Times and attitudes will eventually change.

 

[KeysBum]

Next time, start out by giving the barman a nice tip when you order the first round. He won't want you to leave.

 

[Brewlady]

About a year ago I went to the Tilted Kilt sports bar in downtown San Diego to watch a Chargers game.
I asked beforehand if it was okay to use my electronic cigarette and was told it was fine.

Apparently the manager also uses an electronic cigarettes.


It was so nice to be able to have a few beers and watch the game while vaping away.
And knowing that the manager had my back was wonderful beyond words.

I went to Chicago last summer and vaped at the Tilted Kilt there. Actually, I was allowed to vape everywhere I went - Hard Rock, Harry Caray's, etc. The only place that said no was Goose Island brewpub in Wrigleyville. We had just toured the ballpark, and stopped in at about 2:30 in the afternoon, on a Tuesday. We were the only customers sitting at the bar. We had one beer and left. Needless to say, my beer purchases now and in the future will NEVER include Goose Island products.

 

[Fletch]

Next time, start out by giving the barman a nice tip when you order the first round. He won't want you to leave.

Great idea, but in this instance that would not have made any difference whatsoever. The bar man clearly accepted it and allowed it, it was the manager who made the snap decision on the spot to ask us to stop or leave. We made the choice to leave as we had been so embarrased and did not want to sit there with others staring. The logic he gave for making the decision does not stack up in my book, purely a lack of education, which i tried my damn hardest to do. Once the decision was made, there was no going back so we accepted it and left quitely.

 

[swedishfish]

Some of us just want to vape and quit smoking, not all of us want to go out and lobby for e-cigs. Just my

So how exactly is this senario supposed to work in making vaping acceptable and not banned.

Do you think the powers that be are going to sit back and think "Gee, those ecig people are just so damned polite the way they hide and vape. I think we'll throw them a bone and let them vape!"

It's more like- we don't see anyone vaping, maybe no one does it. Who cares! Lets just slap another tax on it or ban it to appease big pharm.

There are already laws in NJ against vaping. If you don't want it to happen in your state you have to do something about it. This gets the word out. I looked into vaping when I saw that actress vaping on David Letterman. Most people, even smokers still haven't heard about vaping. The more smokers we can convert, the bigger our numbers are.

Just wait until they try to start taxing e-juice the way they do tobacco products.

 

[DC2]

Just wait until they try to start taxing e-juice the way they do tobacco products.

And if you live in Hawaii, your wait might not be very long...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ttes-70-wholesale-price-ban-sales-minors.html

 

[Iffy]

“They were seated in the food area and we had a few complaints.”

There's the main issue...

 

[Fletch]

“They were seated in the food area and we had a few complaints.”

There's the main issue...

This was a feeble attempt to justify it to the press;

1) We were never told that anybody had complained at any point. we were being asked to stop doing it as it was 'encouraging others to light real cigs'
2) If you ever go into Yates's on a Saturday afternoon, you will see that there are no designated food areas. If you have a table anywhere, you can order food and there are loads of tables dotted all over. It is a large venue and we had the only table that was left and there were no people eating on the tables adjacent to ours

Pure lack of education as to what they were, unaware of their own policies - in fact they admit they do not have a policy. The bar man accepted it, the manager did not. Yates's and others need to make a firm decision about their policies and adopt them in all of their bars. They are a hugh chain of wine bars all over the UK so will look forward to thier decision from Head Office as the media makes enquires for their article ;-)

 

[classwife]

Moved to E-Cigarettes in Public from New Members

 

[Nashy08]

So how exactly is this senario supposed to work in making vaping acceptable and not banned.

Do you think the powers that be are going to sit back and think "Gee, those ecig people are just so damned polite the way they hide and vape. I think we'll throw them a bone and let them vape!"

It's more like- we don't see anyone vaping, maybe no one does it. Who cares! Lets just slap another tax on it or ban it to appease big pharm.

There are already laws in NJ against vaping. If you don't want it to happen in your state you have to do something about it. This gets the word out. I looked into vaping when I saw that actress vaping on David Letterman. Most people, even smokers still haven't heard about vaping. The more smokers we can convert, the bigger our numbers are.

Just wait until they try to start taxing e-juice the way they do tobacco products.

Like I said, I'm not all about lobbying and going out, but I do follow CASAA and sign petitions and email my state reps. I'm not just sitting here hoping everyone else does everything or saying that it's stupid, just that I personally don't feel the need to go out and make a big deal. I am thankful for e-cigs, I quit smoking with them and if they weren't available it would be a very terrible thing for us and people who could use them to quit in the future. I'm not anti-e-cig or anti anything really.

 

[K.P.]

I just sent a quick email to Yates via their website saying (with more, politer, words) "I've been vaping in pubs for years with no problems and won't be going to a Yates in the future unless your policy is more welcoming" and would encourage other UK people to do the same.

 

[Fletch]

Great!!

You will like the letter sent to the Press from Godfrey Bloom UKIP MEP for Yorkshire and North Lincolnshire regarding the article in the York Press and action taken by Yates:

Electric smokes (From York Press)

Interesting.....!

 

[ChaosTheory]

When thinking about laws and taxes and what not... just remember: Silence is consent.

 

[Petrodus]

The title of this thread: Kicked out of pub for vaping in York!
Reminds me of Ron White's comedy routine
I got thrown out of a bar in New York City