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Ladies, Nic Information

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Seabrook

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Ladies, I have a thread posted below that I would like you all to read please. It is about an unregistered supplier that some ECF members are buying their nicotine bases from to make their own juices.

First of all, all are innocent until proven guilty, but there have been numerous mistakes made from this one company. I have read posts where ppl have ordered 36mg juice and were sent 100mg. That might not seem like a big deal, but I want to point out that some ppl just trust their suppliers and don’t think to read the print on the bottles. vaping 100mg is harmful. I get headaches on 24mg.

Secondly, Poster #2 from this thread performed our chemist, Kurt’s, "mg/ml of nicotine" testing on her juices and came up with a 245mg reading when it should have been 100mg.

I’ve created this post to ask you all to just please be careful of where you buy your nicotine from if you DIY until this issue is resolved. Box Elder will not answer their eMails nor their phone calls. On a more serious note, one poster posted that her juice supplier would not answer her eMail about what nic base company he used. So, maybe you should all ask your juice suppliers where they buy the nic base that they make your juices out of.

Rolygate has posted a sticky in the DIY subf. to be sure and test all your juices. Our Veteran friend, Kurt, who is a chemist is volunteering to test the juices in question, bless him. Kurt also posted that the nic he bought from BE was not vapable for him either.

Please ladies, be safe and don’t be shy to ask questions. It would trouble my heart and dampen my spirit to to see any of you dear friends get sick or worse. Please and thank you.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-nic-feels-wayyyy-too-strong.html#post4142259
 
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Announcement by rolygate:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/234886-d-n-g-e-r-100mg-nicotine-liquid.html

I try to keep TWR non e-cig related...but I am leaving this.
I have been following the thread.
I am however locking this one, as your comments can be made on the other thread.

Note: Being an unregistered supplier has nothing to do with this.

ECF does not in any way approve any product or approve of any product of any kind seen on this website or offered for sale on any other website.

ECF does not sell any products and no products are offered for sale directly on this website, with the exception of private sales within the Classifieds section, access to which is prohibited for Suppliers.

ECF does not in any way approve any Supplier* or approve of any Supplier in any way whatsoever.
* a Supplier is any commercial trader or vendor or entity acting as a business and selling e-cigarettes or ecigarette-related materials

ECF cannot control the content of external websites, or monitor the products for sale, or approve or disapprove of them, or determine if the site or the products or the business concerned complies with any local laws, since it would be absolutely impossible for us to do any of these and guarantee that we had done so or had checked on any given day for any of the hundreds of global suppliers websites who are registered with ECF.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/announcements-rules/52925-suppliers-information.html
 
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Kurt's findings...more to be done:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...on-we-have-problem-nic-titration-results.html


edit to add :

So to give the list again now with vehicles and BE lot numbers and purchase dates, if known:

100 mg....48 mg (This one was mine, don't know lot #) VG 6/9/11
100 mg....121 mg PG lot 256 7/5/11
100 mg....272 mg VG lot 257 5/29/11
48 mg....78 mg VG lot 257 9/7/11
36 mg....51 mg VG lot 257 8/27/11
48 mg....59 mg VG lot 257 6/11/11
100 mg....98 mg (this was my MFS 100 mg VG) 1/1/10
 
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...lem-nic-titration-results-50.html#post4606871

This just in:


From: Brad Bacher <customerservice@boxelderchemicalsupply.com>
Date: 20 November 2011 04:11:45 GMT
To: XXX@XXX.XXX
Subject: Subject: Box Elder Product Recall

Hello Everyone,

Due to recent indications by the public of high Box Elder nicotine strengths, we are issuing a product recall for any bottle of unflavored e-liquid that have been purchased between May and August 2011. We are investigating this problem to the fullest extent possible and we regret to inform you that we will not be selling nicotine products on Box Elder Chemical Supply until we can fully verify the nature and source of this problem. We are very sorry for any inconvenience this may cause you however, we are convinced that for our customers, company and industry, that a recall is the safest course of action due to the nature of this product.

We humbly request that if you have purchased a bottle of unflavored e-liquid from us between May and August 2011, that you place the bottle in a zip-lock plastic bag and mail it back to us.

We do ask that before you ship a product back to us that you contact us at customerservice@boxelderchemicalsupply.com or call 888-962-5877.

Please have the date of purchase or the order ID number and we will be more than willing to issue a Return Merchandise Authorization Number.

We also ask that if you return a product to us that you do so via the US Postal Service and that you send the product via Flat Rate Priority Mail to the following address:

Brad Bacher

1170 Sycamore Dr.

Brigham City, Utah

84302

Any refunds will be issued within 24 hours of the date of an arrival of product back to our facility and will include the cost of return

shipping if Flat Rate Priority Mail is used. We apologize for this problem and thank you for your attention on this matter.

Sincerely,


Brad Bacher

Box Elder Chemical Supply
 
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