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It can be used. It has been used. Just don't expect miracles out of a 10440 batt. Wrt the eGo, that batt is 650 mAh, not 550.

The 10440 clocks in at 320 mAh, and although they are recommended for 440 mAh or better, 440 mAh is indeed the minimum. Some folks have use them on reg 510 batts as well.
Thanks Swicthed! :) In response to your comment highlighted above, I have one for you good sir.

Not with what we received today...;) the mah can be however much you choose and you'll still be in heaven with One 3.7V battery ;)
 

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Thanks Swicthed! :) In response to your comment highlighted above, I have one for you good sir.

Not with what we received today...;) the mah can be however much you choose and you'll still be in heaven with One 3.7V battery ;)

Oh you are such a tease! What did you receive today? I see another order coming on :p
 

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Oh you are such a tease! What did you receive today? I see another order coming on :p

Omg WWay! You will know my sweet friend, it was your b-day after all. :D
I just got them in today and have been doing the happy dance allll night!!!! And you know what? I'm the only one to have them!!!
 

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Thanks Swicthed! :) In response to your comment highlighted above, I have one for you good sir.

Not with what we received today...;) the mah can be however much you choose and you'll still be in heaven with One 3.7V battery ;)
Absolutely partially true Isaac :) but at the end of the day a 10440 is a AAA battery.

In engine metaphor it is like comparing a 1.5l fuel injected engine with a diesel. They will both get you where you are going, which one has the better MPG or PPC (puffs per charge)

In battery terminology a battery also known as a fuel cell, only has a certain carrying capacity. If the AWs chemistry permits large current draws then battery life will be extended, but the fuel tank is a little on the small size don't you think. When compared to it's original marketed use, the 18650 batt.

That being said the 10440 being a relatively cheap battery to replace comparatively speaking, some may outweigh longevity in favour of a better vape. In that case we both know that, that occurs at 6V ;)

Some folks have gone as far as using these on regular 510 180 mAh batts and killing them in the process, not to mention the dangers associated with the rapid depletion of LI-Ion batts.
 
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Tease Tease Tease!! Speaking of B-days, it's after midnight and I need to go start a new thread :D
I see! Your so sweet WWay!!! She is going to be ecstatic!!
nevermind....I have no idea what your talking about. I thought you were talking about a battery....but I guess your talking about attys?

so what are these for?
17670 UltraFire 3.7V Protected Battery 1800mah
Lol Sorry, I tend come off the main track and into lectures sometimes hehe. The 17670 protected was meant for the Chameleon, but it turned out that the Unprotected is the right version and handling a cell that large without protection, I just don't want to carry in the store. I mean, it could be I just got caught in all the hype, but still, I don't want burden anything potentially dangerous. Using only one battery is not a bad thing. It's when you stack unprotected batteries on top of one another that raises the chances of destruction.
Absolutely partially true Isaac :) but at the end of the day a 10440 is a AAA battery.

In engine metaphor it is like comparing a 1.5l fuel injected engine with a diesel. They will both get you where you are going, which one has the better MPG or PPC (puffs per charge)

In battery terminology a battery also known as a fuel cell, only has a certain carrying capacity. If the AWs chemistry permits large current draws then battery life will be extended, but the fuel tank is a little on the small size don't you think. When compared to it's original marketed use, the 18650 batt.

That being said the 10440 being a relatively cheap battery to replace comparatively speaking, some may outweigh longevity in favour of a better vape. In that case we both know that, that occurs at 6V ;)

Some folks have gone as far as using these on regular 510 180 mAh batts and killing them in the process, not to mention the dangers associated with the rapid depletion of LI-Ion batts.
Yes, thank you Switch! You really enlightened me here. and a big thank you for the simple break down. I just off the line with Caesar from the Precious and he was describing the same thing. With LR the battery will indeed rapidly decrease and with high resistance that funnels the powersource will lead to a greater life. The counter lies in one's usage. Whereas, if the user is satisfied with their 'puff' they will naturally take less, thus putting the battery though less torment as they would by puffing constantly to heat up the atom to the point where they then receive the nice one they were looking for. Not to mention the IMR batteries do have a lower capacity compared to li-ion. Just call me a parrot repeating you just said! :lol: Really though, thank you.
 

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So how does the mah rating have anything to do with this? Low resistance runs hotter,High Resistance runs cooler right? If the voltage is a constant. So if you have a LR atty and use it with a small battery...3.7 it should get a little hotter faster....simulating HV vaping.Or...if you use a HR atty on a small battery it will run cooler and use less juice but may not taste as good or produce as much vapor. Am I still on the right track? But mah (milliamp hours) I thought was a designator of storage capacity, ie: how long the battery will last. So what did I miss...someone please help me! My little anteater brain is having a hard time with all this and I don't want to spend anymore money on stuff I don't understand and therefore I will not be happy with. :(
 

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So how does the mah rating have anything to do with this? yes/no Low resistance runs hotter,High Resistance runs cooler right? Yes If the voltage is a constant. So if you have a LR atty and use it with a small battery...3.7 it should get a little hotter yes faster no....simulating HV vaping yes.Or...if you use a HR atty on a small battery it will run cooler yes and use less juice but may not taste as good no or produce as much vapor yes. Am I still on the right track? But mah (milliamp hours) I thought was a designator of storage capacity, ie: how long the battery will last. yes So what did I miss...someone please help me! My little anteater brain is having a hard time with all this and I don't want to spend anymore money on stuff I don't understand and therefore I will not be happy with.

Lori...

The best advice I can give you is to start reading the battery threads and digesting this stuff. I am not trying to be ignorant, after 3.5 months I am just starting to get some of this sheet. But will tell you this, you are on the right track. So I will not attempt to confuse you here. But do read up on the battery threads.
 
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Thanks,

Yes and no. It's how much you open the faucet to drain the bath tub.

My understanding of mAh is indeed the size of the gas tank, at the same time, not all 1000 mAh batteries are the same or created equal (besides the accuracy of some mAh ratings), this is where it gets confusing.

Battery chemistry is one place where things happen and, on some batts either internal or external PCBs. High drain batteries will accept large demands on them for X period of time, at a constant delivery rate, then die. A battery with the same mAh rating is great out of the gate but falters in the stretch. Over the charged cycle of the batt, the batt peter's out and then quits, vice maintaining a constant delivery. This can happen with batteries that have the same mAh rating.

High drain batteries for the lack of a mataphor is like falling off a cliff when they quit, whilst their counter parts is like rolling down a slope. The provided link is a good read, a lengthy read, and a confusing read. The nice thing about this article, you can read it at your leisure and select the section or topic you want to read at any given time. Bookmarking this link means you can always go back to it to refresh yourself. The article contains many illustrations to enhance emphasize what is being explained.

Most folks wan't the short version, but the complexity of the various battery chemistry, precludes a comprehensive understanding in an abbreviated version. e.g. why is there a difference between battery X and battery Y, when they're at the same voltage and have the same carrying capacity (both at an accurate 3.7V and 1000 mAh, let's say) without external interference (PCBs).

Welcome to Battery University

Edit: If you think batts are confusing, check this link out. My post at the bottom.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ikenvape/84144-batteries-safety.html
 
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Really???? You lecture????? Haha...I'm still in the doghouse with Mr. Woods thanks to you! :oops:

Actually, I think it's pretty darned cool that we all have someone here looking out for us. :wub:
Aww Momma! I'm Mr Woods told you, "When your good and ready, you can come out" It's been 4 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p
It is always a pleasure exchanging in this type of conversation. This is how we learn and prosper as vapers.
ABSOLUTELY! What you said above using the metaphor "Mah is like a gas tank" couldn't be any more accurate! I believe this is yours good sir. ;) "We learn knowledge and so we pass it on. :D
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Isaac, now that you brought it up, what's happening with the Precious? Did you ever get one to test?

Actually no, I haven't, We been talking daily and have developed a great friendship. Everything that pops in my head to improve the unit, I run to tell him and it is done. Caesar is such a great guy and totally understanding in terms of safety and user-friendly. We're actually discussing to bring the ridiculously high costs down for everyone. Because as it stands, he pays a fortune to get these done and doesn't like the fact that he has to charge so much. He really is a kind businessman with a heart and is not out there to scam anyone.
 

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so the simple answer is that the mah rating coupled with the reristance of the device doing the drawing speaks to the discharge rate of the battery ? This entire equation represents a balance that effects both the life of the battery and the life of the device. And if you don't understand that then you have to go back and read the article yourself,(whomever you may be...that was not directed at spiker :) ) :lol:

did I win?!?!?!?

thanks for the explanation and the link. Very valuable!!! It is IN my favorites file and now I can hopefully stop annoying vendors.:D
 
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