lavatube battery

[hificat101]

You won't be out anything. Amazon will take returns with full refund no questions asked, and will even issue you a return label postage free. It might be a marketplace seller, but it's being fulfilled by Amazon, so no risk at all.

Well I saw that it's being fulfilled by Amazon, and my first thought was that it reduced the risk, but if you think about it, I'm not sure a $10/hr Amazon distribution center employee can spot a counterfeit. TBH, I'm not sure if I can with this particular bat, but I do have lots of others to compare it to, and will.

 

[zoiDman]

These are Non-Protected batteries, Right?

 

[hificat101]

These are Non-Protected batteries, Right?

Not sure about the protection chip, but they are safer chemistry. The price on the Amazon deal also jumped from 3.49 to 7.10. Looks like the reason I got 3 bats so cheap was a bookkeeping error. Should have ordered 4 or 5.

 

[zoiDman]

Not sure about the protection chip, but they are safer chemistry. The price on the Amazon deal also jumped from 3.49 to 7.10. Looks like the reason I got 3 bats so cheap was a bookkeeping error. Should have ordered 4 or 5.

I went back and Read the Discription Completely and they are Not Protected.

 

[hificat101]

OK, no chip, but like I said, they are safer chemistry. I say "safer" rather than "safe" because they use a hybrid chemistry. To be honest, IMR's generally don't have a protection chip. Also, if you are using these in a single bat mod, that also would increase your margin of safety by my estimation.

 

[zoiDman]

I'm not a Huge fan of Non-Protected Batteries.

But I do beleive that as long as a person Knows the Good and Bad of Any Battery, that it just gets down to personal choice.

In a Perfect World, where everything works the way it Should and Manufacturing Quality is 100% perfect, things would be much simpler.

But in a world where Chargers and Batteries are Cranked out at Break Neck Pace, so Extra Cation is sometimes a Good Thing.

 

[Ctor]

I'm not a Huge fan of Non-Protected Batteries.

But I do beleive that as long as a person Knows the Good and Bad of Any Battery, that it just gets down to personal choice.

In a Perfect World, where everything works the way it Should and Manufacturing Quality is 100% perfect, things would be much simpler.

But in a world where Chargers and Batteries are Cranked out at Break Neck Pace, so Extra Cation is sometimes a Good Thing.

I'm not worried much about Panasonic. I've been using their rechargables (NiCads, NiMH's) etc for years and they've lasted longer then even other name brand batterys, and their ratings tend to be conservative. I'd be much more worried about using non-protected with noname brands.

 

[zoiDman]

I'm not worried much about Panasonic. I've been using their rechargables (NiCads, NiMH's) etc for years and they've lasted longer then even other name brand batterys, and their ratings tend to be conservative. I'd be much more worried about using non-protected with noname brands.

Yeah, there is a Reason that No One will put their Name on a Product.

And that is Usualy because it does meet the OEM QC and Performance Standards. I tend to steer clear of No Name products nNo Matter how Inexpensive they are.

 

[TBinAZ]

Yeah, there is a Reason that No One will put their Name on a Product.

And that is Usualy because it does meet the OEM QC and Performance Standards. I tend to steer clear of No Name products nNo Matter how Inexpensive they are.

Interesting note... nowhere on these batteries does it say Panasonic, just like many of the 'generic' batteries out there. Usually a distributor just puts their 'sleeve' on them for metrics. I wouldn't be too leery about batteries these days, protected or not. Battery technology has come a long way. The ...... who misuse them is the problem.

 

[zoiDman]

Interesting note... nowhere on these batteries does it say Panasonic, just like many of the 'generic' batteries out there. Usually a distributor just puts their 'sleeve' on them for metrics. I wouldn't be too leery about batteries these days, protected or not. Battery technology has come a long way. The ...... who misuse them is the problem.

What a lot of people don't understand is Many Times Brand "X" wants to sell something with their Name on it but do not Actually Manufacture the Item. So they send the Specifications of what they want made to a Company that Specializes in making such a product.

This Second Company starts to churns out the item but they know some will not meet the requirements of Brand X. How many won't meet Brand X's specs? That is hard to tell sometimes. But the Manufacture knows from experience that they need to make Extras because some can't be sold to Brand X.

When enough items are made that meet Brand X's Specs are produced, they stop production, chuck the items in a Box and send them down the road to Brand X.

But what to do with these Extra Items that didn't meet Brand X's requirements? This is where some No names come from. The Manufacturing Company sells them with No Name on them to Battery Wholesalers. Some may be just Extras that Meet Brand X's Quality specs and some maybe Complete Rejects. That is why it is Hard to knew Exactly what you will get when you buy a No Name Product.

When it comes to Batteries for one of my VVPV's, the most Expensive (But also some of what people tell me are the Best Quality) cost about $12. And the Cheapest No Names I have seen are about 5 Bucks.

So call me Crazy but I'll Splurge and Fork out the Extra 7 Dollars to put them in my $200 VVPV.

Are the Expensive Batteries Really Better? I dunno.

But I would have a Hissy Fit if a 5 Dollar No Name Fried or Leaked in my VVPV and Ruined it. If the Expensive One did the same thing I could Chock it up to Bad Luck. But if the No Name did it I would call it Bad Judgment.

But once again, this is just Me and YMMV.

 

[denali_41]

Well panasonic,ultra-fire or what have you,,the batterys all have one thing in common,,,they can still fail ,,yes even the protected ones because the protection is external of the battery itself,,
IE. drop it and it gets a slight pin hole crack and starts leaking all over inside your APV




you can take the protection circuitry off a protected and put it on a panasonic,,i did it this morning and do not recommend anybody reading this to try it,,unless you know how to shield yourself from the possibilities !!!

 

[Ctor]

Well I saw that it's being fulfilled by Amazon, and my first thought was that it reduced the risk, but if you think about it, I'm not sure a $10/hr Amazon distribution center employee can spot a counterfeit. TBH, I'm not sure if I can with this particular bat, but I do have lots of others to compare it to, and will.

Update on the battery purchase: I got my 4 yesterday. They appear to be genuine. I charged one up and popped it in a YJ Chrome LT last night and I'm still vaping it 24 hours later. Normally, I'd have gone thru both of my 1000mah twists by now, and I've had the LT set at the same or higher voltages than I normally use on the twists. They also took around 5-6 hours each to charge on a cheap charger (have an xtar on order).

So I'm guessing that these are the genuine Panasonics .