Lavatube/tube tank question- cartos inside...

[popeye79]

So I got my lava tube and tube tank today. They work great (fearfull of the battery scam thing though).

Anyway, the carto that comes with it is weird, has a flange thing on the bottom. and it's a lot longer than the kr808-1 bloog cartos that I'm used to.

Question is, can I only buy cartos from volcano for this tank? will other 510 cartos work? do others sell the flanged cartos?

any help would be much appreciated. happy vapping!

 

[Maximillian]

Heyas popeye79,

I don't have the carto tank from volcano, but do have a couple carto tanks from another vendor. If the grommets on your tank seal nice and titghtly to the carto, I don't think the flanged cartos are really necessary. I use cartos without the flange. I think the flange is mostly to keep the tank from slipping too far down on the carto. But mine sit quite securely on the carto without a flange.

pre punched or slotted cartos with the flange are indeed available from a variety of other vendors. Madvapes is the first that comes to mind, although I've seen them at a number of sites. If you want to go the flanged route.

Or, you can punch your own cartos, flanged or not, either using a nail or punch and a hammer, or using a "saddle valve" from home depot or the like. Or any other method you come up with to punch them. Or "slot" them using a dremel or some such. Pbusardo has a youtube video up on how he slots his. I'm sure you can google it. Pretty basic stuff.

I had thought of slotting my own using a dremel, but was leary of doing it, as I didn't know how healthy the traces of metal dust and grinding wheel dust would be to vape, but apparently many slot their own with no ill effects. So, I'll probably start going that route.

Hope this helps.



Maximillian the Seldom Serious

 

[hairball]

The flange is only there to stop the tank from sliding. I've used Boge is mine without issues. I bought a self piercing saddle valve off ebay for under $6 to punch mine with. Cheap and simple to use. The other option is a dremel. I slot some of mine because of 100% VG juice. I don't cut clear into the metal. I just thin it down enough so I can poke it with a needle or precision screwdriver until I can get it out. Then wipe it off and run a magnet over it to remove any remaining metal pieces. Haven't had any problems yet doing it that way either.

 

[Maximillian]

The flange is only there to stop the tank from sliding. I've used Boge is mine without issues. I bought a self piercing saddle valve off ebay for under $6 to punch mine with. Cheap and simple to use. The other option is a dremel. I slot some of mine because of 100% VG juice. I don't cut clear into the metal. I just thin it down enough so I can poke it with a needle or precision screwdriver until I can get it out. Then wipe it off and run a magnet over it to remove any remaining metal pieces. Haven't had any problems yet doing it that way either.

Thanks for that tip Hairball! I hadn't thought of doing that. I was bouncing ideas around in my head on how to "slice" a hole into a carto without leaving residue, but hadn't come up with anything yet. You're a fount of information as always



Maximillian the Vaguely Disreputable

 

[~Shado~]

Just want to clarify....the TubeTank is too tall for Boge cartos...it is a Smoktek design tank....and requires the taller cartos.

 

[Jerry B]

the flange is ot really needed. I have the small tube tank on my lavatube ad i use the 1.7lr mega ressarecotors (to tired to correct spelling sorry) from CCV they work great. and NOW they even sell prepuched one.

 

[Moofaso]

although I love my resurrectors on my 3.7v devices, I can't see a reason to use them on a VV device. I use 3.0 on my lavatube and vape lots of love. A resurrector on a lavatube will be restricted to 3.7 or lower voltage no matter what you have the LT set for, so why bother?

 

[sinnyc]

The flange isn't necessary but it sure is nice. I use an extender adapter on my Maxi Roughstack and with the flanged cartos I don't have to worry about accidentally pushing the tank down too far and making a mess. I haven't looked yet but I'd bet you could find a washer that would act like the "factory" flange on a different carto.

- Tim

 

[micksf]

Just want to clarify....the TubeTank is too tall for Boge cartos...it is a Smoktek design tank....and requires the taller cartos.

I bought a couple extra tanks from myvapestore, at less than $5 a piece and cut them down to size for the shorter boge cartos. works great.

 

[mikebabs]

although I love my resurrectors on my 3.7v devices, I can't see a reason to use them on a VV device. I use 3.0 on my lavatube and vape lots of love. A resurrector on a lavatube will be restricted to 3.7 or lower voltage no matter what you have the LT set for, so why bother?

The reason why a lavatube is still a good way to go is because its a "regulated" device. Although it will not go over 4 volts with a Low resistance cartomizer it will remain at a "steady, fixed voltage" until the battry runs down.
This gives you much improved vaping experience over lets say a "silver bullet" which is not regulated and the voltage continually drops as the battery weakens.

 

[tj99959]

The reason why a lavatube is still a good way to go is because its a "regulated" device. Although it will not go over 4 volts with a Low resistance cartomizer it will remain at a "steady, fixed voltage" until the battry runs down.
This gives you much improved vaping experience over lets say a "silver bullet" which is not regulated and the voltage continually drops as the battery weakens.

A good 18650 battery weakening in a SB is not exactlly the same as say a 14500 weakening. Maybe tomorrow I'll notice the dropoff.

 

[Maximillian]

although I love my resurrectors on my 3.7v devices, I can't see a reason to use them on a VV device. I use 3.0 on my lavatube and vape lots of love. A resurrector on a lavatube will be restricted to 3.7 or lower voltage no matter what you have the LT set for, so why bother?

I have a 1.7Ω smoktech on my lavatube as I type this. The reason? I have plenty of 1.7Ω smoktechs lying around, but I'm almost out of boge 3.0Ω. The nice thing about vv is that 1.7Ω or 3Ω work equally well. Although I know that at least on some vv mods, lower Ω cartos will drain the batt charge more quickly, I usually have at least 3 or 4 pv's that I alternate at any one time, so batt charge life isn't really an issue for me



Maximillian the Over Nic'd

 

[Fazed]

The reason why a lavatube is still a good way to go is because its a "regulated" device... ...it will remain at a "steady, fixed voltage" until the battry runs down.
This gives you much improved vaping experience over lets say a "silver bullet" which is not regulated and the voltage continually drops as the battery weakens.

Not necessarily, check out my follow up review

LavaTube Follow Up Review

 

[kabonk]

I bought a hand full of those tanks from http://www.myvaporstorethere.com/ they're $4.65 and cut them down with a pipe cutter to fit a boge carto. I don't like the DCC in a tank they tend to over wick on me no matter how small I make the hole and with a 100% VG it's like there isn't enough polyfill there it was becoming a PITA so I just started cutting them down.

 

[popeye79]

I bought a couple extra tanks from myvapestore, at less than $5 a piece and cut them down to size for the shorter boge cartos. works great.

What can you use to make a clean cut? dremel? I would just hate to make the cut a little too short or angled. :/


edit.. never mind.. just read "pipe cutter". Measure twice, cut once!

 

[Fazed]

What can you use to make a clean cut? dremel? I would just hate to make the cut a little too short or angled. :/


edit.. never mind.. just read "pipe cutter". Measure twice, cut once!

Make sure you put something solid inside of it (like a socket) before you cut with a pipe cutter. If you don't, the pressure will crack your tank.


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[mikebabs]

Not necessarily, check out my follow up review

LavaTube Follow Up Review

Fazed, you are right.....After having the LT for about 2 weeks I have found the same issues with the dropping voltage. Shame, the item on first impressions seemed great but as time goes by the faults are found. It is most definately a faulty or just pure crappy up converter on the voltage.

 

[popeye79]

Make sure you put something solid inside of it (like a socket) before you cut with a pipe cutter. If you don't, the pressure will crack your tank.

Thanks for the tip. if i end up cuttying, i'll totally do that. but i noticed that if i cut it, the words "tube tank" will look weird and uncentered. Stupid i know, but that will anoy me. where can i get a tank that will fit the boge cartos? I keep seeing different carto tanks, but I'm just not sure how tall they actually are.

to be clear, please correct me if i'm wrong, there are two different 510 carto sizes.. boge (short) and smoketech (long). right? they can't be the only companies making them.. how can i tell 510 carto sizes?

I swear, there seems to be a never ending learning curve with ecigs. :/

 

[Fazed]

Thanks for the tip. if i end up cuttying, i'll totally do that. but i noticed that if i cut it, the words "tube tank" will look weird and uncentered. Stupid i know, but that will anoy me. where can i get a tank that will fit the boge cartos? I keep seeing different carto tanks, but I'm just not sure how tall they actually are.

Before you cut, try picking up a standard 510/510 adapter. Not sure if this would even work, but it would get the length right. I think for a DCT MAP tank where the caps are longer inside the tube itself, it may work. Not sure on yours. Another thing you could try is to cut it down, and use some goo gone and remove the label. Yet another another option for you would be to get DC Cartos at a higher resistance. Vendors carry them at 2-3 ohm resistances now and those should work for you in the tank you have as it is.

to be clear, please correct me if i'm wrong, there are two different 510 carto sizes.. boge (short) and smoketech (long). right? they can't be the only companies making them.. how can i tell 510 carto sizes?

Actually you have single coil, or standard 510 like the boge, and dual coil or 510 XL like the smoktech. The diameter is the same, only the DC is longer to accomodate two coils instead of just one.

Regardless of brand, the sizes will be the same. All 510 single coils are about the same size, and all 510XL dual coils are about the same size. Now when you get into mega XLs, XXLs etc., then the diameters will be bigger and won't work with tanks.




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[Maximillian]

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Actually you have single coil, or standard 510 like the boge, and dual coil or 510 XL like the smoktech. The diameter is the same, only the DC is longer to accomodate two coils instead of just one.

Regardless of brand, the sizes will be the same. All 510 single coils are about the same size, and all 510XL dual coils are about the same size. Now when you get into mega XLs, XXLs etc., then the diameters will be bigger and won't work with tanks.




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While this is mostly true, there are exceptions. Instead of looking for dcc or single coil, I usually look for xl, xxl, xxxxl, mega, etc.

Madvapes sells some standard size dcc's.

Madvapes also now sells a line of mega cartos by Bauway that, if I'm not mistaken, are the same diameter as a standard or xl carto, but are longer, like maybe an xxl, or xxxl. Not positive of this though, as they don't list the dimensions for these cartos. At least not yet

Liberty flights sells some ego mega single coils (same size as emdcc's)

Just to list a few of examples.

If it's a product you haven't bought before, you can always email the vendor and see if they can supply dimensions.



Maximillian the Perambulating Lexicographer