Lead poisoning from solder

[the.vapyre]

I was soldering back together a broken CE2 connection and realized I had used liquid flux and solder containing lead on the inside of the cartomizer where it heats up and soaks in my ejuice. I would be vaping that at high temperatures. I stopped and threw it away. It got me to thinking. Are the Joye atomizers that I love to use and many other vape parts soldered with lead? Could I be getting lead poison build-up every time I take a puff?

 

[squirrel64]

More than likely lead free solder

 

[Quinic]

Not sure anyone has done any testing on this... but, the CE2's do come from the same country that brought us lead paint in children's toys. I have often thought about this myself. I wonder if those DIY lead tester kits could answer this question.

There are a couple of solderless custom built atomizer being sold that avoid solder all together. Especially those built on Raidy's Genisis designs.

 

[Scubabatdan]

Agreed. silver bearing solder is what most modders use. I am sure the industry took that into account. But then I could be wrong LOL
Dan

 

[the.vapyre]

I hope you are right but I don't completely trust Chinese manufacturing for health safety. I know that lead-free solder fails quicker and maybe that plays a part in the common atomizer failure. Is there anyone out there that has noticed incresed lead levels in their system since they started vaping?

 

[PKZap27]

Here is a link on this topic where tests were performed.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...scussion/189729-lead-solder-clearomizers.html

Please read through the entire thread.

 

[JW50]

I was soldering back together a broken CE2 connection and realized I had used liquid flux and solder containing lead on the inside of the cartomizer where it heats up and soaks in my ejuice. I would be vaping that at high temperatures. I stopped and threw it away. It got me to thinking. Are the Joye atomizers that I love to use and many other vape parts soldered with lead? Could I be getting lead poison build-up every time I take a puff?

No offense intended but I think you are being a bit of a weenie here. Did that analogue have any lead in it? What about in the air? What about the water from your soldered pipes? The liquids and food that pass through lead containing fillings of your teeth. Just getting really wacky - so why did God let there be lead?

 

[mj64]

Its a legitimate concern, but lead is actually pretty much everywhere. I think the likelihood of there being enough exposure to do definite harm is unlikely. There's no harm in asking vendors to tell the manufacturers that we as customers want them to use lead-free solder.

 

[JW50]

Its a legitimate concern, but lead is actually pretty much everywhere. I think the likelihood of there being enough exposure to do definite harm is unlikely. There's no harm in asking vendors to tell the manufacturers that we as customers want them to use lead-free solder.

I do not disagree. Just thinking back. Do lead pencils have lead?

 

[the.vapyre]

Weenie, I hope so but was just thinking out loud
Wacky, I think not
Analogs, probably not very much but I dipped before vaping and they don't solder them
Air, hardly any to be unhealthy
My water pipes are PVC
No tooth fillings in my mouth but do any contain lead for anyone in the US in our heavily regulated system?
God let there be arsenic and mercury too but didn't intend us to injest it for pleasure
I just wanted to bring up some group thought about the issue. You don't have to be defensive about vaping with me. I am a die-hard vaper and just want it to be as safe as possible for us all.

No offense intended but I think you are being a bit of a weenie here. Did that analogue have any lead in it? What about in the air? What about the water from your soldered pipes? The liquids and food that pass through lead containing fillings of your teeth. Just getting really wacky - so why did God let there be lead?

 

[mj64]

I do not disagree. Just thinking back. Do lead pencils have lead?

Actually I believe they are graphite, and have been for many years.

 

[mj64]

Just an fyi, yeah, there's lead in cigarettes. Probably lead in our nicotine juice too. Tobacco Smoke | Radiation Protection | US EPA When you start looking at this stuff its like peeling an onion.

 

[Bardolf Blaze]

The liquids and food that pass through lead containing fillings of your teeth.

Lead isn't used in fillings... Dental restoration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I do not disagree. Just thinking back. Do lead pencils have lead?

Pencil lead has been graphite since about 1565.

 

[Quinic]

I do not disagree. Just thinking back. Do lead pencils have lead?

Nope... they are made of graphite.

 

[the.vapyre]

Thank you for posting this link! It is the most informative I have received about this issue!

QUOTE=PKZap27;3945087]Here is a link on this topic where tests were performed.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...scussion/189729-lead-solder-clearomizers.html

Please read through the entire thread.[/QUOTE]

 

[PKZap27]

Thank you for posting this link! It is the most informative I have received about this issue!

You're welcome!

 

[MagnusEunson]

Since that last thread of testing I check every so often and haven't found anything of concern. Most recently I was testing the Vapage Hybrid and the HH.357. Nothing in any nicquid I use (Vermillion River, Copper Creek, Alien Visions, Liberty Flights, Backwoods)... although lead is listed in ppb in certain "pure" nicotine extracts but not nearly enough to trigger even the sensitive tests given to me after that first exploration. And even then, versus analogs, the risk reduction is huge although likely present at some point in some form (and it's not clear it would transfer via vape anyway).

In the coming months I'll be releasing some data from a lab that got in touch with me as a result of that thread. They did all the heavy lifting and I only provided information on major vendors, components, history, nicquids, etc. And Flavourart is also doing testing of their flavorings BTW, which should be interesting too. Cheers, -Magnus

 

[asdaq]

What we really need is rico's input in this thread.

 

[the.vapyre]

Thank you for doing all this! It benefits many! We need more people like you out there.

Since that last thread of testing I check every so often and haven't found anything of concern. Most recently I was testing the Vapage Hybrid and the HH.357. Nothing in any nicquid I use (Vermillion River, Copper Creek, Alien Visions, Liberty Flights, Backwoods)... although lead is listed in ppb in certain "pure" nicotine extracts but not nearly enough to trigger even the sensitive tests given to me after that first exploration. And even then, versus analogs, the risk reduction is huge although likely present at some point in some form (and it's not clear it would transfer via vape anyway).

In the coming months I'll be releasing some data from a lab that got in touch with me as a result of that thread. They did all the heavy lifting and I only provided information on major vendors, components, history, nicquids, etc. And Flavourart is also doing testing of their flavorings BTW, which should be interesting too. Cheers, -Magnus

 

[mrengles]

I do not disagree. Just thinking back. Do lead pencils have lead?

No they stopped making lead pencils in the 70's they are now graphite.