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Matt Heaton

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I just built a 24g 7/8 wrap coil. I bent my leads to center the coil, But the one lead touches right up against the middle post (which can someone tell me the difference between the post too?). Now my question is will that affect anything or will it be fine? Here is a picture of it.

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I just built a 24g 7/8 wrap coil. I bent my leads to center the coil, But the one lead touches right up against the middle post (which can someone tell me the difference between the post too?). Now my question is will that affect anything or will it be fine? Here is a picture of it.
You have two negative (outer) posts for parallel build, dual or quad coils... and the center post is positive.

I can't see or understand what it is that you're referring to ("the one lead touches right up against the middle post")???, but if I was to take a wild guess - if you're referring to a coil tail that kinda sorta makes contact with the outer post before it enters the post hole... electricity follows the shortest path of a "good" (better than or at least equal to) contact.
 

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I was talking about the tail coming out of the positive contact, if you look in the picture the lead comes out then lays flush against the post. this won't cause any problems or does it still follow what you said about the current following the shortest path?
Not really an issue. If it's just lightly touching, it shouldn't have the conductivity of the fixed end of the lead in the post hole.
 

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Mech mod with low gauge wire has a higher learning curve. Its best to start out on a regulated mod with 30+w and some 28 guage. Understand ohms law and how circuits work and how that relates to PVs. All so read up on battery safety. Glad to see you're checking your build, with an ohm checker, but it seems like you should do more learning before trying to fire a build on a mech... All IMO of course...

It's not rocket science, but a regulated mod adds quite a bit of safety, protecting you from doing dumb things - not firing and warning messages is better than the battery venting..
 
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This shouldn't cause any issues, just ensure that it lights from the center out and look for any hot spots. If you don't find any then your good to go, I've seen this a many times previously to "Increase solid contact" with some atomizers and in truth a few actually need it depending on if the screws/posts are worn from use. Either way just keep an eye on it and you should be fine.

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Also, the MORE that positive lead touches that post the BETTER conductivity you will have. So not only is it not a bad thing but actually a good thing. As one poster pointed out, it can increase your overall resistance as it requires more wire length but it is so small a measurement it really will have no significant impact. I do the same builds to center my coils and my positive leads will actually be straightened back along the inner length of the coil to enter the positive post. As you continue to do these builds your technique will get better. Check out different sized needle nose pliers so you can perfect your wire bending to adapt your coils to whatever atty you are building on. One of the biggest coil fails is lack of a good solid connection to the positive or negative posts. The better and more solid those connections are, the better and more consistent your overall vape will be as well as wicking and juice atomizing. The other thing you want to look at is where does that positive lead come out of your coil wind. Its hard to see from the pic but it looks like it comes up then bends downward than over to the post. Ideally, you would want both the coil leads to come off the bottom of the coil at exactly the same point. The positive side of the coil in your pic is the tricky side. The wire should come down to the bottom of the coil then make a perfect "left turn" then a right turn to enter the post. That's where a good pair of needle nose come in. When your bends are rounded and not perfect 90 degree bends you add wire length and a slop factor and lose efficiency. Good luck!
 
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Personally, When I build, I feed the leads through the post hole and bend them strait up, I test the build, and wiggle the leads to make sure they have a nice strong connection, if the ohms jump around I tighten the screws in the post down a bit more until it has a firm hold and the ohms dont jump on the meter. Whent it's all set I trim the leads just below the head of the screw. I find this keeps the coil in place better as if the screws do back out the coil is less likely to just fall out.

I dont know if it makes a better connection or not. I'm no electrician, but since the wraps on a micro coil or twisted coil does not short the wraps I would imagine the same oxidation principle applies - that is when headed the wire gets a small layer of oxidation, keeping the electricity from "jumping" leads and taking the least resistant path. That's all one big guess though :)
 

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If anyone sees this and knows this will not fire up. when I put this on my mod and push it nothing happens any idea's?

The only time I've had that happen was with 26g wire and it was due to the coil leg being broke from tightening the post screw down too much and snapping it off so it didn't make good contact. That's a nice looking coil you wrapped too.
 

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Well if you're worried about the tail clip it flush of you can. Os this a new atty? Sometimes I find out that non adjustable center pins that are flush with the 510 stem won't fire unless I use a mech with adjustable pin. The ohm meter reads it so its not shorting. (to the person on page 1 who had the no firing issue. I forgot to reply the specific post)

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