Leaking 801 Atties

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Cyblood

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Hi guys and dolls,

I am having trouble with the 801 atomisers. I am using HR Low Bridger atties from TW. They leak all over.

I pay extra attention not to flood the atties when refilling the carts, also I do not drip, even when priming, I use the carts to prime them. I take care not to pool the carts, but to no avail. :?:

Also I'm noticing that it leaks even from between the "decorative" atty ring and the atty itself. It leaks also from the batt end.

I'm constantly wiping off juice off the batt threads and the atty threads. It's a nightmare and really frustrating and a hassle to use this way, both indoors, and especially outdoors. It's not of much use like this. :(

The original Gamucci atty didn't leak this much. However the two TW atties I'm rotating do leak heavily.

I use the staple mod so that I can get the atty +ve make a connection with the batt's +ve terminal.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, and I'm thinking of dumping the whole thing altogether, but I'm waiting for the BE112 atties, so I think I'll give it another try with those.

Any help please?


An unhappy camper.
 

ChuckB

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I've noticed that my 801s do leak more easily than any of my other devices, but by moding the cart you can keep it to a minimum. I use a high ping mod with a straw and that has helped. A be112 atty seems to leak a little less for me for some reason, not sure why, I'm using the exact same carts. Even if you do get the cart to completely stop leaking you'll still get a little liquid seeping out because of the condensation on the sides of the cart.

I've also noticed that the more expensive the shirt I have on, the better the odds the 801 is going to leak when I put it in my pocket.
 

Cyblood

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I've noticed that my 801s do leak more easily than any of my other devices, but by moding the cart you can keep it to a minimum. I use a high ping mod with a straw and that has helped. A be112 atty seems to leak a little less for me for some reason, not sure why, I'm using the exact same carts. Even if you do get the cart to completely stop leaking you'll still get a little liquid seeping out because of the condensation on the sides of the cart.

I've also noticed that the more expensive the shirt I have on, the better the odds the 801 is going to leak when I put it in my pocket.


Hey Chuck, I'm still waiting for my parcel from BE. I will have 2 BE112 atties to try out. Hopefully will give me a better experience than the ones I'm using.

I will however do look up the high ping mod w/straw and get back to you.

I am very aware of the condensation problem and I'm constantly wiping off the outer walls of the cart on every cart top up, which is really a lot of hassle. I will also have a drip tip to experiment with, as dripping would be of much less hassle than how I'm currently using my 801.

When I slip my PV in my ...., I put it cart tip facing down: it's much less leaky for me I found out.

If I'm still not satisfied with the cart mod and BE112 atty, I think I'll go for the EGO..

Thanks for the advice!
 

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I use BE112 attys and occassionally DSE801's and they never leak and I drip which can tend to cause more leaks. From my experience, if you are not overfilling as stated, then leaking is caused by the atomizer not getting hot enough to vaporize the liquid, pure and simple. That is a battery problem. Switching to a 5 volt battery solved all of my early leak problems.
 

Cyblood

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I use BE112 attys and occassionally DSE801's and they never leak and I drip which can tend to cause more leaks. From my experience, if you are not overfilling as stated, then leaking is caused by the atomizer not getting hot enough to vaporize the liquid, pure and simple. That is a battery problem. Switching to a 5 volt battery solved all of my early leak problems.

I am expecting 2 manual batts and a USB passthrough fro BE. I think they would heat up the atty more than autos.

However when I'm not on the PC I would have to use 3.7 as I'm not interested in mods currently, neither atty adapters, especially do to my limited budget.

Thanks for the tip wv. I will report back.
 

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I am expecting 2 manual batts and a USB passthrough fro BE. I think they would heat up the atty more than autos.

However when I'm not on the PC I would have to use 3.7 as I'm not interested in mods currently, neither atty adapters, especially do to my limited budget.

Thanks for the tip wv. I will report back.


The manual batteries should help a little. It's amazing to me anyone still uses autos. Understand with your passthrough, if you plug it into your laptop, you won't be getting 5 volt power. Most of us who have been doing this for awhile are little concerned with how a device looks but most concerned with how well it functions on a consistent basis and that is why so many have moved to mod devices.

Good luck.
 

Cyblood

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I use BE112 attys and occassionally DSE801's and they never leak and I drip which can tend to cause more leaks. From my experience, if you are not overfilling as stated, then leaking is caused by the atomizer not getting hot enough to vaporize the liquid, pure and simple. That is a battery problem. Switching to a 5 volt battery solved all of my early leak problems.

Well now I'm starting to agree with you. Today I have used a thinner juice on a relatively new atty. no leakage! Logically, the thinner juice gets vapourised much easier, leaving it very little chance to leak. Also condensation seems to be a little less thanks usual. It can be an atty problem also, cos I know the batts are good, but the older atty does not run as hot as the new one. They're from the same batch.
 

Cyblood

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Cyblood, I'm loving my 801 atty's (regular and HV) but I find with certain juices they leak but not all juices. Viscosity I'm thinking.

As I'm finding out, and as I told wv, I think the thicker the juice, the more leakage you'll get. It's a sort of paradox, but thicker juices are more difficult to vapourise, hence the leakage.
 

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Well now I'm starting to agree with you. Today I have used a thinner juice on a relatively new atty. no leakage! Logically, the thinner juice gets vapourised much easier, leaving it very little chance to leak. Also condensation seems to be a little less thanks usual. It can be an atty problem also, cos I know the batts are good, but the older atty does not run as hot as the new one. They're from the same batch.

You are right that it also could be an atty problem if the atty is old and "gunked up" which will reduce the heat output. It would be a good idea to try a new atty on fresh batteries. But you will be amazed at the difference in vaping a BE112/801 atty on a 5 volt PV when you try one. It was night and day in my experience.
 

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If your juice is very thin, you need to pack the filler a little bit tighter in the cart ~ maybe take some filler from an empty and add to the cart you're using. If the filler is too loose it doesn't hold the juice worth a darned, and too much juice is pulled from the cart if you are puffing too hard as well.
Very loooong, gentle puffs, for optimum vapor.
 

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If your juice is very thin, you need to pack the filler a little bit tighter in the cart ~ maybe take some filler from an empty and add to the cart you're using. If the filler is too loose it doesn't hold the juice worth a darned, and too much juice is pulled from the cart if you are puffing too hard as well.
Very loooong, gentle puffs, for optimum vapor.

You provided some great info in this thread.....awesome.
 

Linda Marie

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I have the tornado from TW - same sort of PV and was having problems getting a consistant vape.
Someone pointed out to me that you should be sure the little devil head is either lined up with the button or 90 degrees off - works better that way - it is true - so go figure - maybe they read the instructions better than I did.
Like I want to take time to read the instructions anyway ....
 
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