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[Tor R]

I was a bit skeptical about the thread agenda, but now we have questions and discussions, seems to develop into a very good thread..

Why I use rta & RDTA atty's :
They generally have a much better Airflow system compared to pod & stock coil atty's.
They offer great options when it comes to coil and cotton, everything from simple to complex builds.
A roll of quality wire that is 100-250 ft long lasts for many years, costs no more than £25 for top quality wire, do researc top wire for 10£ like Temco..
A box of premium cotton £6-7, lasts for months.

Cost price stock coil atty vs rta & RDTA makes the latter cheaper in the long run.


I think the vape development has been a sad story the last 5 years, disposables & pods are flooding the market, the youth love them and get the main headline in the news.

The old advanced users are overlooked, we who came away from cigarettes, long-term users, are not that interested in the news.

Given 2-3 years as it is, it will get even worse. Fortunately, there is still equipment for advanced vapers.

 

[Ping-vape]

There are probably a lot of different reasons. For me, it's mainly that I enjoy making coils and mixing juice and so forth. Let's me feel like I'm in charge of the vape I get. Plus I have gear I like and know and I don't like change. That's true for a lot of old-timers. Some folks like to tinker and some don't. Some vapers like to get new gear all the time to keep it exciting. Some oldies have dodgy hands or eyes which limits their choices.

Some stuff described as pods allow you to make your own coils so they are halfway in between. A pod with a rebuildable deck and rechargeable battery isn't much different to a tank setup, just a different shape.

My GS comes to visit and he uses disposables. Another point on the scale. In his case he's in the military so convenience is important.

Some pods you have to replace the top part which holds the juice and deck when the juice runs out and the wick gets dirty. You can't refill it or redo the deck. Buying new tops regularly is going to cost more.

So I don't think there's a clear distinction between tanks and pods, just a sliding scale. And there are lots of reasons people make their choices.

Right.
It does seem like a sliding scale indeed. With disposables being pretty much non-customizable (at least for the most part), and tanks being the most customizable on the other side. And with the pod systems offering a wide range of middle ground customization.
And thanks for your feedback... I've enjoyed this thread as well.

 

[Ping-vape]

I was a bit skeptical about the thread agenda, but now we have questions and discussions, seems to develop into a very good thread..

Why I use RTA & RDTA atty's :
They generally have a much better Airflow system compared to pod & stock coil atty's.
They offer great options when it comes to coil and cotton, everything from simple to complex builds.
A roll of quality wire that is 100-250 ft long lasts for many years, costs no more than £25 for top quality wire, do researc top wire for 10£ like Temco..
A box of premium cotton £6-7, lasts for months.

Cost price stock coil atty vs RTA & RDTA makes the latter cheaper in the long run.


I think the vape development has been a sad story the last 5 years, disposables & pods are flooding the market, the youth love them and get the main headline in the news.

The old advanced users are overlooked, we who came away from cigarettes, long-term users, are not that interested in the news.

Given 2-3 years as it is, it will get even worse. Fortunately, there is still equipment for advanced vapers.

Thanks for the share Tor.
Yeh, it does seem like tank systems are the most customizable, and most cost-effective as well.
But nowadays, with the rebuild kits for commercial coils, it ends up being very economical as well (buying cotton strips and mesh wire for real cheap and rebuilding those coils). But of course - way more build customization with a traditional building decks.

About the news.. You mean those negative stories about vaping?
If so, I assume it probably has to do with the tobacco industry trying to give vaping a bad name. (At least I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case).

In any case though, I do think it's good that there's also the option of pods and disposable for the general public. Not many would dive head straight into the pool of mods & building decks, so it's good they have a simpler vaping option for replacing smoking, isn't it?
After that, if they choose to move on to more advanced pods or mods and make their own juice & coils.. that's their own thing. But at least they're not stuck with tobacco as the only option.

And another point I think, is that the more vapors there are out there, the stronger this industry is (which means continuous growth & improvement) , and the stronger the community of vapors is as well, which can give some potential immunity against negative governmental restrictions/regulations down the line. Isn't it?

Just some thoughts on the matter.

 

[Tor R]

It is impossible for a stock coil atty to be better than a good rta, there are natural limitations a stock coil has and will always have.
But they have become significantly better.

Negative news is vape and children & youth. We have a part of the industry that has low ethics, it would have helped a lot if they looked one two three years ahead, but it doesn't happen, getting a piece of the pie is most important.

I have always said, disposables, pre filled pods, were the beginning of the end for vape.