LG HG2 Question

[Coffee300]

Hello, i have 2 LG HG2 batteries in my Battlestar with my Velocity clone, i'm using it at 60W with a single .24ohm SS coil. Now i don't really know much about batteries and what not, but i went with the LG and a regulated mod as a safe bet. But i'm curious about what would be my max wattage that i would be able to pull and still be safe. I know it's a noob question but i had read a few post's and i see people saying a bunch of different things.

Thanks.

 

[Cheallaigh]

technically 60w per battery, but that's under perfect ideal conditions... i wouldn't take them above 105, but i'm OCD about battery safety.

 

[Coffee300]

technically 60w per battery, but that's under perfect ideal conditions... i wouldn't take them above 105, but i'm OCD about battery safety.

Ok, thank you very much!

 

[Two_Bears]

Hello, i have 2 LG HG2 Batteries in my Battlestar with my Velocity clone, i'm using it at 60W with a single .24ohm SS coil. Now i don't really know much about batteries and what not, but i went with the LG and a regulated mod as a safe bet. But i'm curious about what would be my max wattage that i would be able to pull and still be safe. I know it's a noob question but i had read a few post's and i see people saying a bunch of different things.

Thanks.

I would say Max 140-150 watts.

Woukd like to see your resistance a little higher like .27.

HG2 are my favorite batteries.

 

[Coffee300]

I would say Max 140-150 watts.

Woukd like to see your resistance a little higher like .27.

HG2 are my favorite batteries.

Yeah, i had just put my coil on when it said .24, after using it for a few hours it now says .26

 

[opticruby]

Like @Cheallaigh said 60watts per battery, so 120watts for two batterys.

Resistance plays no part on a regulated mod, so it'll be 120 watts regardless of the coil ohms.


The formula we use to calculate this is:

Watts(+10% for mod ineffency)/mod cutoff voltage = amps being pulled by the mod.

 

[pappcam]

Regulated mods basically won't fire at anything that's "unsafe". I like that people are thinking about safety but there seems to be a lot of confusion between regulated mods and mech mods.

 

[opticruby]

Regulated mods basically won't fire at anything that's "unsafe". I like that people are thinking about safety but there seems to be a lot of confusion between regulated mods and mech mods.

I'm unsure what you mean.

If I put 2 5A cells in a smok alien and fire them at 220watt they'll vent. The mod will not prevent that happening.

I agree regulated mods are safer but not 100% safe.

 

[kbeam418]

I'm unsure what you mean.

If I put 2 5A cells in a smok alien and fire them at 220watt they'll vent. The mod will not prevent that happening.

I agree regulated mods are safer but not 100% safe.

I highly doubt the Alien will even fire with 5 amp cells. The board would see a large voltage dip and just not fire. HG2 are good up to 25 amps, anything beyond that and they start to heat up.

 

[sofarsogood]

I highly doubt the Alien will even fire with 5 amp cells. The board would see a large voltage dip and just not fire. HG2 are good up to 25 amps, anything beyond that and they start to heat up.

HG2'S are rated 20 amps, not 25. The only responsible answer to the original question is use batteries with the specs recomended by the manfacturer.

 

[kbeam418]

HG2'S are rated 20 amps, not 25. The only responsible answer to the original question is use batteries with the specs recomended by the manfacturer.

You can pulse them up to 25 amps. CDR is 20 but they can take 25. I agree, always use trusted 20 amp cells but I'm trying to tell the op that exceeding CDR isn't going to make his device blow up.

 

[mongo74]

When I first started subohming, I exceeded the CDR of my batteries in a Sigelei TC150, and the regulator in my mod blew up.

Careful.

 

[opticruby]

I highly doubt the Alien will even fire with 5 amp cells. The board would see a large voltage dip and just not fire.

That may be so, TBH the post was to bring back the balance of the quoted member who I felt was putting across 'battery safety is a bit over-rated on a reg-mod', which I didnt want the op feeling anything goes as long as its on a regulated mod.

HG2 are good up to 25 amps,

I only use CDR ratings when giving advise to members who admit themselves they are asking "noob questions"

*Please dont read this post as arguementative or 'having a go back', as this is not my intention, its just an explanation of the post you quoted.

 

[kbeam418]

That may be so, TBH the post was to bring back the balance of the quoted member who I felt was putting across 'battery safety is a bit over-rated on a reg-mod', which I didnt want the op feeling anything goes as long as its on a regulated mod.


I only use CDR ratings when giving advise to members who admit themselves they are asking "noob questions"

*Please dont read this post as arguementative or 'having a go back', as this is not my intention, its just an explanation of the post you quoted.

My general rule of thumb for regulated is only buy batteries from trusted sources and only use 20 amp cells. Other than that you should be fine, they are not like mech mods where you can literally draw 100 amps.

 

[sofarsogood]

You can pulse them up to 25 amps. CDR is 20 but they can take 25. I agree, always use trusted 20 amp cells but I'm trying to tell the op that exceeding CDR isn't going to make his device blow up.

I recommend this interview with Mooch.

It's too long and rambly, they ought to do it over because there is a lot of valuable information. One of the things I learned and didn't know before is that pushing batteries beyond their rated capacity is part of the hobby for some. When newbies get involved and it's presented as a test of manhood injuries are inevitable. I would mind my own business except this foolishness is being used as an excuse to interfere with my vape.

BTW I use an HG2 in my Pico even though the manufacturer recommends 25 amps instead of the HG2's 20 amps. I learned how to apply watts law to my choice of batteries to help minimize the risk. I keep power down so that a single 3000 mah battery will get me through a full day if necessary. I wish the pico was rated for 40 watts instead of 75 because I never go above 30 watts and 400 degrees on a high resistance coil. I never draw more than about half the amps the HG2 is rated for at low voltage cutoff. I wish vapers were encouraged to avoid replacable cell mods until they know how to calculate the above and understand the implications. (volts x watts = amps so for me 3 volts at cutoff x 10 amps = 30 max watts).

 

[opticruby]

My general rule of thumb for regulated is only buy batteries from trusted sources and only use 20 amp cells. Other than that you should be fine, they are not like mech mods where you can literally draw 100 amps.

We all set our own rules as far as vaping safety. You, like me and many others on this forum are very exprienced vapers but to me and my safety zone the smok alien (I'm not sure why it keeps coming up as an example,lol), will pull 43.2amps per-cell at full power on a low cell, and that is way out of my safety zone (may be not yours though).

 

[kbeam418]

We all set our own rules as far as vaping safety. You, like me and many others on this forum are very exprienced vapers but to me and my safety zone the smok alien (I'm not sure why it keeps coming up as an example,lol), will pull 43.2amps at full power on a low cell, and that is way out of my safety zone (may be not yours though).

I would use my VTC4 batteries for that kind of load, actually I would just use one of DNA 200 mods .

I recommend this interview with Mooch.

It's too long and rambly, they ought to do it over because there is a lot of valuable information. One of the things I learned and didn't know before is that pushing batteries beyond their rated capacity is part of the hobby for some. When newbies get involved and it's presented as a test of manhood injuries are inevitable. I would mind my own business except this foolishness is being used as an excuse to interfere with my vape.

BTW I use an HG2 in my Pico even though the manufacturer recommends 25 amps instead of the HG2's 20 amps. I learned how to apply watts law to my choice of batteries to help minimize the risk. I keep power down so that a single 3000 mah battery will get me through a full day if necessary. I wish the pico was rated for 40 watts instead of 75 because I never go above 30 watts and 400 degrees on a high resistance coil. I never draw more than about half the amps the HG2 is rated for at low voltage cutoff. I wish vapers were encouraged to avoid replacable cell mods until they know how to calculate the above and understand the implications. (volts x watts = amps so for me 3 volts at cutoff x 10 amps = 30 max watts).

25 amps isn't going to harm those cells... I mean if you run them continuously at 25 amps you might have a problem but we don't so that's not really an issue.

 

[opticruby]

I would use my VTC4 batteries for that kind of load, actually I would just use one of DNA 200 mods .

TBH, I would leave vaping at those wattages to other people, for fear of burning my throat with vapour,lol.

A built-in battery is a-lot safer for higher wattages though and DNA boards you carnt go wrong.

BTW, the VTC4 is rated at 23amps CDR by mooch thats still only 3amps over the HG2 and 30Q's CDR.

 

[Cheallaigh]

actually it's 4 to 5 amps over an hg2... which mooch lowered the CDR on...

when advising a seasoned vaporer... yeah say you can push, but not with new, it's a simple caution to prevent them from from having an accident.. because they might not understand are seeking safe advice.
constant, contrary, answers really do not help...

aliens keep coming up, cause we're also searching... wait.. wrong answer, oh yeah cause a bunch of us bought them.

 

[mongo74]

Didn't mooch re-test the HG2 and say it was indeed a 20a battery?