EU Lies told by RIVM

[dutch onsea]

I was very surprised reading this weekend in the papers that that the RIVM (a national health institute in the netherlands) stated that e-sig's are very harmfull. The exhaled vapour would contain several very toxic agents. They try to make people believe that e-sig's are very dangerous in the neighbourhood of kids. They are stressing about the lethal power of e-liquid. Ok, we all know we don't have to drink a botlle of juice. Sorry guys, I had to vent this one, it made me very angry. don't vote for PVDA in the netherlands...

 

[AgentAnia]

I'm very surprised to hear this, as I was under the impression that the Netherlands was pretty objective and favorable to ecigs.

(Never be sorry for venting; if not here, where? )

 

[Scootaloo]

Really? and where the the RIVM dig that information up from? an underground hole on none fact based assumptions I bet. It really annoys me, vaping is ticking all the right boxes and you get these idiots who just can't stand us having our fun. What is there problem?
If they discover vaping has scientific proof of causing harm then yeah fair enough but sereously if not leave us vapours alone!!!

 

[WhiteHighlights]

Oops. I didn't read this before I started a thread about it. Here's a link to the PR: Dutch sound alarm about possible risks of e-cigarettes

Supposedly the NIHP did an analysis of existing scientific research....

 

[dutch onsea]

Ok, there is a toxic ingridient in the exhaled vapour(when there is nicotine in your e-liquid). But how can you go from there to: The exhaled vapour contains lots of toxins and is just as harmfull to bystanders as regular sigs?What does this Van Rijn caracter earn by all this or is he just plain stupid?

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

It's the Big Lie, tell it from a position of power and many will believe it. Just need to be there first and it can take years for the truth to overtake it.

 

[AgentAnia]

Ok, there is a toxic ingridient in the exhaled vapour(when there is nicotine in your e-liquid). But how can you go from there to: The exhaled vapour contains lots of toxins and is just as harmfull to bystanders as regular sigs?What does this Van Rijn caracter earn by all this or is he just plain stupid?

This needs clarification. Certain components of exhaled vapor from ecigs would be harmful at elevated levels, but none are toxic at the level exhaled by vapers. My drinking water (certified safe for human consumption by my local water utility and monitored by EPA) contains toxins, but at levels below those established by EPA as harmful. Breath exhaled by non-vapers, non-smokers contains formaldehyde, which is toxic, so you could say that human breath contains toxic ingredients. But toxic only at elevated levels, not at the level present in exhaled breath.

Don't give in to the "vapor contains toxins" (and by implication, "vapor is toxic") Big Lie... Please!

ETA: Not meant to come down on you, dutch onsea! Just a general clarification... (I'm feeling a bit cross today. Sorry.)