Light orange nic base

[SP013]

heya,

So For the first time I bought some stronger 36mg/ml nic base from a guy that makes his bases on his own, I bought it because in European vape stores the TPD rules of max 20mg/ml apply and needed something stronger.

The main difference I see in his base that its very lightly orange, something I have never seen when buying from the vapestore. He says its because its freshly mixed amd therefor has this color but it will fade while steeping.

Is this normal that it can be light orange?

Thanks!

 

[sonicbomb]

I wouldn't trust it

 

[SP013]

I wouldn't trust it

Ill just let it stand in a dark place and see if the color fades

 

[sonicbomb]

Its going in your lungs, do as you wish.

 

[Izan]

heya,

So For the first time I bought some stronger 36mg/ml nic base from a guy that makes his bases on his own, I bought it because in European vape stores the TPD rules of max 20mg/ml apply and needed something stronger.

The main difference I see in his base that its very lightly orange, something I have never seen when buying from the vapestore. He says its because its freshly mixed amd therefor has this color but it will fade while steeping.

Is this normal that it can be light orange?

Thanks!

How does it smell?
Perhaps mix up a small 5ml or 10ml batch of unflavored at your normal nicotine level and give it a try.

Store the nicotine in a cool, dark location. Label it conspicuously to avoid accidents or confusion.

Cheers
I
ETA:
I have NEVER had nicotine base get more clear nor less yellow with age.

 

[Vapedog]

Yeah, as nic gets older it gets darker.
Sounds like old nic to me.
As in the above post, what's it smell like?

 

[GOMuniEsq]

I just bought a batch of 100mg half VG half PG salt nic that has an orange color. It seems to be that way intentionally. No odor, no taste.

Orange Salt Nic

• GOMuniEsq
• May 9, 2019

Edit: I asked the supplier about it and he explained that it's normal for salt nic to have a darker color depending on how it was made, and that I can expect it to be more shelf stable and less prone to oxidization than freebase.
He also explained that freebase nic should be colorless and that it's ridiculous to expect the color to improve with time.

 

[DeloresRose]

Do you know and trust this person you bought it from?

I’ve never had nic get lighter over time. Darker, yes. So right there that makes me not trust him. I dislike liars.

But if that’s all it is, that the nic is old, it’s not going to hurt you, I wouldn’t think. I vape old juice often. Aside from the flavors going all wonky there’s nothing wrong with it.

But if there’s a chance something else is going on, it’s not worth the risk.

 

[NealBJr]

I'd have to second what Delores said.... mine usually comes in clear and stays clear. I keep my nicotine in a fridge that is just above freezing. My batch is over a year old (yes, I know, old nic), and it's still clear color like when I got it. Juices mixed, however, do turn darker over time... I have never had a juice get lighter over time.

Now, I don't use Nic salts, I just use a regular 100mg/ml base with PG. Others note my nicotine has a slight peppery taste, probably due to it's age.

 

[IDJoel]

Did you get regular (freebase) nicotine, or nicotine salt? Nic salts are more prone to color presence, than freebase (due to chemical interactions). If it is indeed freebase, then it is not "freshly" mixed (unless it was intentionally oxidized)... or, it was extremely poorly handled. Or, it may be "freshly mixed" using OLD and or poorly stored, nicotine.

Old nicotine is not any more harmful than fresh, though it may lose some of its original potency, and can take on a more distinct/identifiable taste of its own. I, like the others, have only had nicotine take on more color as it ages... I've never had it become clearer.

The bigger concern I would have is: if this supplier is will to lie, or "stretch the truth" about its age... are they willing to use poor/questionable, perhaps even contaminated, ingredients?

I realize you have limited choices, given local regulations. But, you have to ask yourself if you are willing to risk your personal health and safety. That is a question only you can answer.

 

[Jebbn]

@SP013
Salts or freebase?

 

[SP013]

@SP013
Salts or freebase?

Freebase

 

[SP013]

How does it smell?
Perhaps mix up a small 5ml or 10ml batch of unflavored at your normal nicotine level and give it a try.

Store the nicotine in a cool, dark location. Label it conspicuously to avoid accidents or confusion.

Cheers
I
ETA:
I have NEVER had nicotine base get more clear nor less yellow with age.

it doesn't smell really badly, but it has a slight smell that reminds me a bit of tobacco.

 

[SP013]

Here you get an idea of the color:

 

[jj_9]

Hi !

I think it's because it's old.
I forgot a one liter bottle somewhere here and when I found it one or two years later, it was this color.

EDIT : does it smell like the water after cooking rice ?

Regards
JJ

 

[SP013]

Hi !

I think it's because it's old.
I forgot a one liter bottle somewhere here and when I found it one or two years later, it was this color.

EDIT : does it smell like the water after cooking rice ?

Regards
JJ

You could desribe it like that slightly. But old nicotine can be still vaped right?

I just put 1 ml in my atomizer and vaped it, no weird taste whatsoever but a harsh throath hit, but is normal with 36mg freebase nic, I did get a nicotine kick I haven't experienced in a while !

 

[jj_9]

You could desribe it like that slightly. But old nicotine can be still vaped right?

I'm not scientific enough to tell this

JJ

 

[NealBJr]

You could desribe it like that slightly. But old nicotine can be still vaped right?

I just put 1 ml in my atomizer and vaped it, no weird taste whatsoever but a harsh throath hit, but is normal with 36mg freebase nic, I did get a nicotine kick I haven't experienced in a while !

36 mg is kinda high unless you're using a small pod like system. 36mg is fine for a device like a Juul or something like that, but if you have a device 1.6 ohms or lower, 36mg is rather high. I dilute the base down to a 6mg nic Juice, then vape it in my .8 ohm atomizer at 25-30 watts. If I had your nic base, I would put 1/4th of the final solution in a bottle, then whatever amount of flavoring, then fill the rest with either PG or VG. That would make a 8mg solution which would be fine in my condition.

 

[IDJoel]

But old nicotine can be still vaped right?

Assuming there are not any other contaminants already present (in which case; you have other problems), nicotine does not break down or change into anything harmful (not discounting that nicotine is harmful in and of itself). All that will happen is it will lose potency, and become more harsh, and can impart its own flavor.

One of the reasons pure freebase nicotine was used as an insecticide on food crops; was the very fact that it quickly (less than an hour?) oxidized, and became benign, with no lingering harmful components.

 

[440BB]

My biggest concern is that you were told that the color will lighten over time, which anyone who is handling nic concentrate should know is not true. Either he is lying or ignorant. Either scenario makes me wonder how accurate the concentration % is.

I'd consider another source in the future. You may be able to get shipments from Hiliq in China in higher concentrations. Good luck!