LIST of Capella Flavor Percentages

[WallyO]

Has anyone here tried the new Capella tobacco flavors yet? Any opinions yet? On taste and percentages.

 

[AndriaD]

Found this very interesting. I'm really enjoying Capella cake batter, vanilla custard, peaches and cream but, there may be a reason why these cream/custard flavors taste better than others who stopped using diacytel and the related acetoin and acetyl propionyl.



Which One Is Right/Wrong?? Acetoin/Diacetyl

Read through up to post #31. Actually#31 contains some concerning info if those numbers are true.

Really not trying to be an alarmists but, those using these flavors should be aware of possible risks.....it bothers me because I'm really loving a mix I made using cake batter and likely won't be ordering again after I finish this bottle....

I looked at that link you gave, and I didn't see anything about cake batter -- and I was looking, because I have some cake batter about to arrive. Looked also like it was about a 2 yr old thread, so is it even really still pertinent?

The only percentage I can find on cake batter here is 14%, along with 1% AP -- just wondering if a) the AP is required -- I have some of that coming too, but just curious; and b) if I'm mixing some other flavor with the cake batter, does cake batter stay at 14%?

Andria

 

[chopdoc]

Has anyone here tried the new Capella tobacco flavors yet? Any opinions yet? On taste and percentages.

I have used the Smooth and the Bold from Capellas and find them both very enjoyable in my recipes. The longer they steep the better they taste.

 

[EddieAdams]

I looked at that link you gave, and I didn't see anything about cake batter -- and I was looking, because I have some cake batter about to arrive. Looked also like it was about a 2 yr old thread, so is it even really still pertinent?

The only percentage I can find on cake batter here is 14%, along with 1% AP -- just wondering if a) the AP is required -- I have some of that coming too, but just curious; and b) if I'm mixing some other flavor with the cake batter, does cake batter stay at 14%?

Andria

Yes it's still pertinent. You'll see that capellas has reformulated some of their flavors. Stuff like cake batter, custard, and flavors along that line need diketones to really taste authentic. They create that buttery richness. So really they can't be made to taste like their description without them.

Try custard from Flavour Art. It's okay considering but, without diketones it's just missing the mark. FA makes great flavors IMHO and like Hangsen they do not use diketones or at least say they don't. You can find older FA flavors that were produced prior to the change that are red flagged and considered "not suitable for inhalation".

If neither of these two giant flavor companies are capable of making a good bakery type flavor without diketones then how does capellas do it?

 

[WallyO]

I have used the Smooth and the Bold from Capellas and find them both very enjoyable in my recipes. The longer they steep the better they taste.

What percentage did you try? I was thinking of starting at 10%.

 

[AndriaD]

Yes it's still pertinent. You'll see that capellas has reformulated some of their flavors. Stuff like cake batter, custard, and flavors along that line need diketones to really taste authentic. They create that buttery richness. So really they can't be made to taste like their description without them.

Try custard from Flavour Art. It's okay considering but, without diketones it's just missing the mark. FA makes great flavors IMHO and like Hangsen they do not use diketones or at least say they don't. You can find older FA flavors that were produced prior to the change that are red flagged and considered "not suitable for inhalation".

If neither of these two giant flavor companies are capable of making a good bakery type flavor without diketones then how does capellas do it?

I don't WANT custard, I want cake batter -- you can't make blueberry muffins using custard!

Andria

EDIT: at bullcity, they show you when a flavor contains any of that stuff -- and they're not showing it for capella cake batter.

And also... nobody said if the 14 %for cake batter is still the figure to use when you're adding other flavors -- like blueberry -- and if that 1% AP is necessary, or desirable, or what -- I have some of that on the way with the cake batter, but trying to get a handle on mixing it. I had figured I'd add the AP a drop at a time after it's mixed, *IF* it's needed.

 

[Soignee]

Hi Andria, have you looked on the e-liquid Calculator site yet? e-Liquid Calculator :: Flavor list

You can find average %'s and poke around in recipes to see what the %'s are when mixed. I can't recall, but there may also be Diketone warnings somewhere on that site as well, but don't quote me on that!

 

[EddieAdams]

I don't WANT custard, I want cake batter -- you can't make blueberry muffins using custard!

Andria

EDIT: at bullcity, they show you when a flavor contains any of that stuff -- and they're not showing it for capella cake batter.

And also... nobody said if the 14 %for cake batter is still the figure to use when you're adding other flavors -- like blueberry -- and if that 1% AP is necessary, or desirable, or what -- I have some of that on the way with the cake batter, but trying to get a handle on mixing it. I had figured I'd add the AP a drop at a time after it's mixed, *IF* it's needed.

I'm not going to argue with you. Flavors like cake batter, custard, cupcake, even caramel contain diketones. "Custard notes". They're necessary to create that buttery richness in those flavors. That's why custard from FA tastes very weak despite being an overall great flavor company. It doesn't have any diketones. It's also why they've labeled their pannetone(spelling?) and butter flavoring and a few others not suitable for inhalation after making a commitment to creating safe flavoring.

Linda over at Flavor Apprentice has labeled all of her flavorings that contain"custard notes"or diketones so the choice is a conscious one. Quite a few people have inquired to Capellas about ingredients and have been ignored or side stepped. Might be why it isn't listed as such....

I flavor lightly. I didn't see a need for anymore than 5%. Even that was a bit much. Capella does mellow/fade more than other flavoring I feel. I'd use the AP sparingly. 1% is a bit high. I'm in the minority though. Seems most like 20% flavoring.....

 

[AndriaD]

Hi Andria, have you looked on the e-liquid Calculator site yet? e-Liquid Calculator :: Flavor list

You can find average %'s and poke around in recipes to see what the %'s are when mixed. I can't recall, but there may also be Diketone warnings somewhere on that site as well, but don't quote me on that!

Thx! There's one called "blue cake" I might be able to adapt to blueberry muffins, at least it gives me a starting point -- it's 18mg and 32% Vg, both way too high for me, but flavor percentages are what I was looking for -- it's showing TFA blueberry extra at only 8%, which is weird, they say that flavor is weak and needs at least 13%-15%... and it's only showing cakebatter at 6%, instead of the 14% I found in this thread -- but AP at 5%, and from what I've heard, that might be a bit high. So I dunno, I may be even more confused than I was before. I'll look at the other receipes that have cakebatter in them, and see what they're using.

I may have to just wing it until I find a combination that suits my buds.

Thx!
Andria

 

[williamclarkonet]

I did not find a thread that kept an ongoing list of flavor percentages for Capella Flavors so I thought I would create one like the one used in the TPA flavoring thread. I did find consensus on several of the flavors I just bought in the “Capella's Ratings and Percentages” thread but I could not find a comprehensive list. I used that thread as a starting point for the flavors I was just trying. I'm sure we can cull a lot of data from that thread to add to the list. I only searched for the new flavors I had and added the flavors I had already worked with.


The minimum information for the list, which I will carry forward from time to time should be flavor name, percentage and rating 1 to 5 out of 5 with 5 being the highest rating. Feel free to make a note of additives if you can express it as a percentage. Indicating the VG content, especially if you make your liquids out of the 30% to 50% VG range, and the nicotine level is suggested as well as suggested steeping times. Please distinguish between “shelve” steeping and “active” steeping. I call it active steeping if you leave the liquid with the cap (and nipple if any) off and shake it a few times a day and shelf steeping if you just put it aside for a period of time. When you have a contribution to the list please you make a copy the list, add your flavor data alphabetically and post it. I reserve the option to edit the list's data based on my experience and consensus of other posters.


Comments such as “too strong”, “too week at maximum VG” etc., detailed reviews, recipes and chit chat are also welcome as long as it related to Capella flavors used in eliquids. I am sure there are a lot of people with more experience with Capella flavors than I have so please contribute.


Capella Flavor Percentages List


Cake Batter 14%, AP (acetyl pyrazine) 1%, 5/5 at 65%VG 17mg (4/5 without AP)


Espresso, 14% EM (ethyl maltol) 2%, 3/5 at 65%VG 15mg


Fig, 18% EM 7% 2/5 at 65%VG


Vanilla Custard 16%, 5/5 at 65%VG 17mg

wow thanks for this info! It must have took a long time to get this information!

 

[Soignee]

Thx! There's one called "blue cake" I might be able to adapt to blueberry muffins, at least it gives me a starting point -- it's 18mg and 32% Vg, both way too high for me, but flavor percentages are what I was looking for -- it's showing TFA blueberry extra at only 8%, which is weird, they say that flavor is weak and needs at least 13%-15%... and it's only showing cakebatter at 6%, instead of the 14% I found in this thread -- but AP at 5%, and from what I've heard, that might be a bit high. So I dunno, I may be even more confused than I was before. I'll look at the other receipes that have cakebatter in them, and see what they're using.

I may have to just wing it until I find a combination that suits my buds.

Thx!
Andria

5% AP is TOOOOO high for bakery.
It really doesn't matter what someone else's base is. Plug your ratio into your calculator 90% PG or whatever and you'll be fine. I don't use a ton of Capella's, but 14% on Cakebatter doesn't sound outrageous. I use CAP Sugar Cookie at 15% stand alone, but when I mix it with milk/cream or chocolate the percentage drops down to maybe 10% or so. Most CAP I start at 10% to test unless I have read that something is used at a really low %.

You're right, you will just have to play with it until you get what you like.

 

[AndriaD]

I think I'm probably going to start with something like:

cake batter 14%
blueberry extra 14%
blueberry candy 1%
AP 1%

and see how that tastes. I like it pretty sweet, like the streusel-topped muffins, which is why I got the blueberry candy -- which is apparently a tank cracker, but at such a low percentage, maybe not -- I've used cinnamon redhot at 3% in some recipes, and it didn't bother the plastic.

Anyway, the cake batter and AP got shipped (from ECX - WA state) early this morning, so I might have it as early as tomorrow, Wed for sure.

Thx!
Andria

 

[lotran]

I haven't had time to read through this whole thread, but can anyone tell me why my single flavor strawberry has all tasted like crap? Ive used sweet strawberry at 10% (taste nothing) and 15% (tastes almost rotten but still like almost nothing) I've tried adding sour flavoring to it but it just made it taste like... Sour. And sweetener just made it taste kind of sugary but still no strawberry. I will say that capellas sweet strawberry doesn't taste nearly as disgustingly rotten as TFA strawberry ripe. Would adding EM help? I've never tried it. My favorite juices are basic strawberry menthols so I feel like this shouldn't be that hard but its so discouraging!

 

[EddieAdams]

I haven't had time to read through this whole thread, but can anyone tell me why my single flavor strawberry has all tasted like crap? Ive used sweet strawberry at 10% (taste nothing) and 15% (tastes almost rotten but still like almost nothing) I've tried adding sour flavoring to it but it just made it taste like... Sour. And sweetener just made it taste kind of sugary but still no strawberry. I will say that capellas sweet strawberry doesn't taste nearly as disgustingly rotten as TFA strawberry ripe. Would adding EM help? I've never tried it. My favorite juices are basic strawberry menthols so I feel like this shouldn't be that hard but its so discouraging!

Personally I've found Flavour Arts fruits to be the most realistic. Can't say I've tried any Capellas fruit...

 

[dead not sleeping]

I like Capella's fruits over TFA. TFA fruits are kind of chemical tasting and take weeks to steep that chemical taste out of it. Good stuff, but it takes some time. With the Cap fruits I've found I can shake'n'vape, and become awesome in just a couple of days. I dont know how people can deal with these high percentages they're stating. Holy cow, 15% - 30% total flavoring??? To each his/her own I guess. I tend towards 3% - 5% with CAP (with just a touch, < 1%, Wizard Labs Sour if I need more pop). Less CAP if it has more than 4 ingredients. I like my total flavorings around 8% - 10%.

 

[EddieAdams]

TFA= The Flavor Apprentice
Flavour Art is a different company entirely.

 

[BTHUNDER]

hi there everybody - just have a question concerning capella flavors - does anyone of you guys have experience with the tobacco flavors of capella ?? and maybe some experiences about the blackberry flavor ???

thank you for your infos !

 

[Armchair Alchemist]

Try working your way from 2% and see what happens. Search for the thread I started about not wasting ejuice. It describes how to do it—given that you already know the basics.

 

[Armchair Alchemist]

I like Capella's fruits over TFA. TFA fruits are kind of chemical tasting and take weeks to steep that chemical taste out of it. Good stuff, but it takes some time. With the Cap fruits I've found I can shake'n'vape, and become awesome in just a couple of days. I dont know how people can deal with these high percentages they're stating. Holy cow, 15% - 30% total flavoring??? To each his/her own I guess. I tend towards 3% - 5% with CAP (with just a touch, < 1%, Wizard Labs Sour if I need more pop). Less CAP if it has more than 4 ingredients. I like my total flavorings around 8% - 10%.

Try working your way up from 2% and see what happens. Search for the thread I started about not wasting ejuice. It describes how to do it—given that you already know the basics. You may find 3-5% works for you.

 

[LVThundercat]

Any more updates on percentages to use with capella's?