LOCAL ALERT: Erie County, NY - Indoor vaping ban - Legislature meets tomorrow 2:00PM

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noevilstar

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Erie County Vapers!

Your County Legislature is meeting TOMORROW to consider banning vaping everywhere smoking is banned!

On Thursday, December 18th, at 2:00 PM, the Erie County Legislature will be hearing public comment regarding a local law to bring vaping into the existing indoor clean air laws. Although there is an exemption for “Certified E-Cigarette Businesses”, this bill would prohibit use in thousands of other work places and common indoor spaces in hotels.

Please take a moment now to write and/or call your legislators and voice your opposition to this bill. Beneath our ‘Advocacy Suggestions’ you will find an easy to use e-mail list, as well as suggested points to make in your email.

ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE
92 Franklin Street - 4th Floor
Buffalo, New York 14202

Meeting Agenda: http://www2.erie.gov/legislature/si...lders/2014/Session_26/Session 26 - 121814.pdf

Text of LL INT. 9-1 12/15/2014: http://www2.erie.gov/legislature/si...sion_Folders/2014/Session_26/14LL Int.9-1.PDF

ADVOCACY SUGGESTIONS

1) Email and call the members of the Erie County Legislature (listed below) to explain why you oppose efforts to ban e-cigarettes wherever smoking is prohibited, and attend the hearing and offer testimony in opposition to efforts to define smoke-free e-cigarette use as smoking (see Suggested Talking Points listed below). Be sure to specify that you are submitting testimony regarding “LL INT. 9-1 12/15/2014”.

2) Contact local media (television station producers and newspaper editors) to tell your story and explain why this ordinance is bad for public health and actually encourages smokers to keep smoking.

3) Post comments on online news stories about this proposed ordinance telling your story and why you oppose the ordinance.

4) Contact all of your local vape shops and let them know that they need to fight this ordinance (no more vaping in their shop.) Retailers can contact their customers, make them aware of the proposed ordinance and get them to attend hearings.

5) Even if you do not wish to speak publicly, be sure to attend meetings and rallies as an audience member to show a strong, united front and to make clear to the media and lawmakers that such actions are hurting real people.

(See Massachusetts town snuffs out tobacco ban after outcry as an example of what a strong show of opposition can do, but please always remain calm and respectful. What ultimately changed changed minds in this case was the sheer numbers of people showing up, not the disruption of the proceedings.)

As a sign of respect, we request that you refrain from vaping during any meetings with lawmakers and/or media, avoid the use of "vape slang" (ie. "juice") and foul language, and act in an otherwise respectful, professional manner.


Erie County Legislature

Comma delimited email:
bmw@erie.gov, bettyjean.grant@erie.gov, peter.savage@erie.gov, kevin.hardwick@erie.gov, thomas.loughran@erie.gov, edward.rath@erie.gov, patrick.burke@erie.gov, ted.morton@erie.go, lynne.dixon@erie.gov, joseph.lorigo@erie.gov, john.mills@erie.gov

Barbara Miller-Williams
District 1
427 William Street
Buffalo, NY 14204
Phone:(716) 842-0490
Fax:(716) 854-5722
Email: BMW@Erie.gov

Betty Jean Grant
District 2
790 East Delavan Avenue
Buffalo, NY 14215
Telephone: 894-0914
Fax: 896-1463
Email: BettyJean.Grant@erie.gov

Peter J. Savage, III -
District 3
1701 Hertel Avenue
Buffalo, N.Y. 14216
Phone: 832-0493
Fax: 832-0494
Email: Peter.Savage@erie.gov

Kevin Hardwick
District 4
Old Erie County Hall
92 Franklin Street
Fourth Floor
Buffalo, N.Y. 14202
Phone: 858-8672
Fax: 858-8895
Email: Kevin.Hardwick@erie.gov

Thomas A. Loughran
District 5
4549 Main Street, Suite 203
Amherst, NY 14226
Telephone: 836-0198
Fax: 836-0199
Email: Thomas.Loughran@erie.gov

Edward Rath III
District 6
Old Erie County Hall
92 Franklin Street
Fourth Floor
Buffalo, N.Y. 14202
Phone: (716) 858-8676
Fax: (716) 858-8895
Email: edward.rath@erie.gov

Patrick B. Burke
District 7
4th Floor Old County Hall
92 Franklin Street
Buffalo, NY 14202
Phone: (716) 858-8480
E-Mail: patrick.burke@erie.gov

Ted Morton
District 8
Old Erie County Hall
92 Franklin Street
Fourth Floor
Buffalo, N.Y. 14202
Phone: 858-8856
Fax: 858-8895
Email: ted.morton@erie.gov

Lynne Dixon
District 9
Old Erie County Hall
92 Franklin Street
Fourth Floor
Buffalo, N.Y. 14202
Phone: 858-8671
Fax: 858-8895
Email: Lynne.Dixon@erie.gov

Majority Leader, Joseph C. Lorigo -
District 10
Old Erie County Hall
92 Franklin Street
Fourth Floor
Buffalo, N.Y. 14202
Phone: 858-8922
Fax: 858-8895
Email: joseph.lorigo@erie.gov

Chairman, John J. Mills -
District 11
Old Erie County Hall
92 Franklin Street
Fourth Floor
Buffalo, N.Y. 14202
Phone: 858-8850
Fax: 858-8895
Email: john.mills@erie.gov



SUGGESTED TALKING POINTS

1. You are an Erie County or New York resident and you oppose banning e-cigarette use where smoking is prohibited. (If you are responding to this Call to Action and are not an Erie resident, please mention any connection you have to the area, for example, you travel to Buffalo on vacation or have friends/family in the area.)

2. Tell your story on how switching to an e-cigarette has changed your life. (Avoid using slang terms such as "juice.")

3. Clarify that:

a. Smoking bans are ostensibly enacted to protect the public from the harm of secondhand smoke, but e-cigarettes have not been found to pose a risk to bystanders. In fact, all evidence to date shows that the low health risks associated with e-cigarettes are comparable to other smokeless nicotine products.

b. The low risks of e-cigarettes is supported by research done by Dr. Siegel of Boston University, Dr. Eissenberg of Virginia Commonwealth, Dr Maciej L Goniewicz of the Roswell Park Cancer Institute, Dr. Laugesen of Health New Zealand, Dr. Igor Burstyn of Drexel University, and by the fact that the FDA testing, in spite of its press statement, failed to find harmful levels of carcinogens or toxic levels of any chemical in the vapor.

c. A comprehensive review conducted by Dr. Igor Burstyn of Drexel University School of Public Health based on over 9,000 observations of e-cigarette liquid and vapor found "no apparent concern" for bystanders exposed to e-cigarette vapor, even under "worst case" assumptions about exposure.

d. Electronic cigarette use is easy to distinguish from actual smoking. Although some e-cigarettes resemble real cigarettes, many do not. It is easy to tell when someone lights a cigarette from the smell of smoke. E-cigarette vapor is practically odorless, and generally any detectable odor is not unpleasant and smells nothing like smoke. Additionally, e-cigarette users can decide whether to release any vapor ("discreet vaping"). With so little evidence of use, enforcing use bans on electronic cigarettes would be nearly impossible.

e. The ability to use electronic cigarettes in public spaces will actually improve public health by inspiring other smokers to switch and reduce their health risks by an estimated 99%.

f. Losing the ability to test e-liquids before purchasing will have a significant and negative impact on your ability to purchase/sell e-liquids.

g. Many smokers first try e-cigarettes because they can use them where they cannot smoke, however, they often become "accidental quitters." This is a documented phenomenon unique to e-cigarettes. It may take a few months or only a few days, but they inevitably stop smoking conventional cigarettes. This is why including e-cigarettes in smoking bans could have serious unintended consequences!

h. By making e-cigarette users go outdoors, the City will also be sending a strong message to traditional smokers that e-cigarettes are no safer than smoking. This will actually maintain the number of smokers in Madison, rather than help reduce smoking. This is a far more realistic risk to public health than any unfounded concerns about possible youth or non-smoker use uptake.

In fact, the most recent report by the CDC showed that the dramatic increase in e-cigarette use over that past 3 years has not led to an increase in youth smoking. Youth smoking of traditional cigarettes continues to decline to record low levels.

i. The children of smoking parents are far more likely to become smokers than the children of non-smoking parents who see smoking behaviors in public. The children of smoking parents who quit aren't any more likely to smoke than those of non-smoking parents. Prohibiting vapor products in public does little to protect the children of non-smoking parents from becoming smokers, but significantly increases the likelihood that many smoking parents won't switch to e-cigarettes. This only serves to keep the highest-risk children at risk.

j. E-cigarette use does not promote the smoking of traditional cigarettes, nor does it threaten the gains of tobacco control over the past few decades. In fact, by normalizing e-cigarette use over traditional smoking, the efforts of tobacco control are being supported. If anything, e-cigarette use denormalizes conventional smoking by setting the example of smokers choosing a far less harmful alternative to traditional smoking. The CDC surveys clearly show that there has been no "gateway effect" causing non-smokers to start smoking. As e-cigarettes have become more popular, all available evidence is showing that more and more smokers are quitting traditional cigarettes, including youth smokers.

k. Important Note: A typical and frequent lawmaker response to e-cigarette users who object to public use bans is "We aren't banning all use or sales, just use where smoking is also prohibited."

Don't give them the opportunity to counter you in that way! Make it very clear that you understand that this is not a ban of e-cigarette sales or a ban of e-cigarette use where smoking is allowed, but that what IS proposed is still a step backward in public health, not a step forward.

4. Direct them to the CASAA.org website, as well as the CASAA Research Library, for more information.
 

pjmarkert

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The original ban was going to be ALL locations where smoking is not allowed such as stadiums, outdoor concert venues and Erie County Parks. I contacted Legislator Lynne Dixon and gave her all the facts. I did ask her too that if they were bound and determined to pass this bill, that they should not include outdoor areas. Now I see that the latest proposed law, being voted on this Thursday now applies to indoor areas only. Not much but it is something.
 
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