Longest Lasting Battery for Lavatube?

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New to this whole variable voltage thing so I got a few dumb noob questions.

Am I ok with any 18650 battery no matter how high mAh is? I am seeing some that go really high but worrying that this will explode in my hand and I'll lose a limb. What battery do you guys recommend that you've tried for awhile and is long lasting.

Are all 18650 batteries the same size? I really want my batteries to be interchangeable with the existing cap and not have to buy another extended cap.

Also, do I HAVE TO get an AW battery or can get a Panasonic that I've seen on some e-cig websites?
 

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Hey there! 18650 batts do vary a small bit in size. Mostly depends if there is a nipple top or flat. I personally use the Panisonic and they are great, long lasting batts. To be honest, they don't last any "longer" than the cheap batts that came with my LT. BUT I "feel" safer using them lol.

Protected batts are indeed too long for the LT, so that is the reason IMR batts are the recommendation.

Good Luck! Happy Vaping!!
 

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New to this whole variable voltage thing so I got a few dumb noob questions.

Am I ok with any 18650 battery no matter how high mAh is? I am seeing some that go really high but worrying that this will explode in my hand and I'll lose a limb. What battery do you guys recommend that you've tried for awhile and is long lasting.

Are all 18650 batteries the same size? I really want my batteries to be interchangeable with the existing cap and not have to buy another extended cap.

Also, do I HAVE TO get an AW battery or can get a Panasonic that I've seen on some e-cig websites?

What Voltage do you like to vape at and what Ohms are most of your Cartos/Attys?

Hard to say if you need High Drain batteries unless we know the Volts and Ohms.
 

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I personally use the Panisonic and they are great, long lasting batts. To be honest, they don't last any "longer" than the cheap batts that came with my LT. BUT I "feel" safer using them lol.

That's my experience also. I'm not sure I feel safer using the Pannies, but I certainly feel "geekier." LOL.
 

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You mentioned extension caps, are you using a ProVari or some VV mod? 2.5 Ohm at 4.5V is a reasonable load, 8.1 Watts pulling 1.8 amps from the battery. You shouldn't require high drain batteries for that, but I'd still go with them. My setup is comparable and I haven't used anything other than IMRs for over a year now.

IMRs have a lower energy density meaning they hold a smaller charge than regular Li-ion cells (measured in mahs or miliamps per hour), but the inherent chemistry used is a lot safer -- so much so they don't require protection chips, making them smaller than regular protected Li-ion. They're also "high drain" (can sustain a much higher continuous power draw) meaning they'll perform just as well if you decide to use a lower resistance setup or just punch up the voltage.

In my experience, IMRs also "spend more time" in the higher part of the voltage curve -- they seem to take longer to go from 4.2V (fully charged) to 3.7V (nominal voltage) than 3.7V to 3.2V (no charge) compared to regular Li-ion. And unless you're a really heavy vaper, a 2000mah or 2200mah (like the latest panasonic cells) IMR should last you all day, or close enough as to not make a difference. Taking a fresh spare with you is easy in any case and you should be doing it regardless of what battery you go with.

All in all, as long as you get a battery from a trusted vendor (or trusted brand), especially if you're using a decent mod (like a ProVari) it shouldn't make much of a difference. But keep in mind that as with most things in life, you do get what you pay for with batteries, so don't be too cheap. A more expensive battery may perform better and last longer, if properly taken care of, which might well offset the higher initial cost.

You don't have to buy AW, though most people here will tell you that you can't go wrong with them (I use them too). Panasonic cells are fine too (in fact, I think AWs are simply rebranded Panasonic cells), Trustfire should be a safe brand, etc..

Above all, unless you buy IMR (I means they're Lithium-ion based, M means they're the LiMn type or manganese, R is for rechargeable) or LiFePo (Lithium Ferrous Polymer, or something like that), both of which are considered "safe chemistry" batteries and thus are inherently "protected" not requiring an added protection chip, don't buy regular unprotected Li-ion batteries especially for use with a mod (that tend to stress the battery more).
 

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2.5 Ohm at 4.5V is a reasonable load, 8.1 Watts pulling 1.8 amps from the battery.

About 2.6 amps from the battery, assuming a loaded voltage of 3.7v and 85% efficiancy through the converter.


Simbo, you don't have to use an IMR but you will get the best performance out of a boost mod, like the lavatube, by using a High drain battery. My vote goes to the Panasonic CGR18650CH 2250mAh. Good price, great performance.
 

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Thank you everyone for posting and sharing your thoughts; special thanks to snowball for the lengthy write up!

So, in conclusion, this "protected" style battery at GotVapes.com (link below) is okay for my Lavatube chrome?
[h=3]Panasonic IMR Hybrid High Drain 18650 2200mah - PROTECTED Li-Ion
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Panasonic IMR Hybrid High Drain 18650 2200mah - PROTECTED Li-Ion [gv-PANASONICHybrid18650-PROT] - $11.49 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
About 2.6 amps from the battery, assuming a loaded voltage of 3.7v and 85% efficiancy through the converter.


Simbo, you don't have to use an IMR but you will get the best performance out of a boost mod, like the lavatube, by using a High drain battery. My vote goes to the Panasonic CGR18650CH 2250mAh. Good price, great performance.
 

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Skip the protected version, it isn't needed for that battery. Plus it makes it longer and probably won't fit in your lavatube without leaving the end cap loose (so I hear). Go with the flat-top.

If you want to save a few dollars, Google "Panasonic CGR18650CH" and look around at different vendors. Orbtronics has them for $9.99 and free shipping.
 

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Thank you everyone for posting and sharing your thoughts; special thanks to snowball for the lengthy write up!

So, in conclusion, this "protected" style battery at GotVapes.com (link below) is okay for my Lavatube chrome?
[h=3]Panasonic IMR Hybrid High Drain 18650 2200mah - PROTECTED Li-Ion
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Panasonic IMR Hybrid High Drain 18650 2200mah - PROTECTED Li-Ion [gv-PANASONICHybrid18650-PROT] - $11.49 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

The type of Battery should be fine. Now will it fit?

I would e-Mail Dan over at gotvapes and ask hime what the Physical Dimension of the Battery is.

Lavatube are Funky is some Pin Headed Eng didn't design it with much thought to Different Battery Length's.
 
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