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my hypochondria must be kicking in.
after a little less than a month, the one black 901 atomizer i have been using constantly is starting to get a little harder to hit & less produce. bum out. i have been dripping janty ry4 ~25-40 drops a day (2 at a time) and using about 1 battery per day (have 3 to rotate).
does that sound about average? seems to...
after a little less than a month, the one black 901 atomizer i have been using constantly is starting to get a little harder to hit & less produce. bum out. i have been dripping janty ry4 ~25-40 drops a day (2 at a time) and using about 1 battery per day (have 3 to rotate).
does that sound about average? seems to...
Thankfully, I'm not post people. It's pretty natural for me to get home, hook the new battery into the charger, change out the atomizer, and rejuice and move onto my entirely too busy life. Course, I take the time to change my underwear everyday, too. I guess, I can't determine their true longevity because I''m not wearing the same ones everyday.
I can't help it! Maybe I'm just giddy over Hanes' newest hot pink floral design! You're right, there's a good chance I'll get over both habits and use the same everyday...until I get over the--what was it?--toy factor?
Life is full of niggles and inadequacies. Owners of rose colored glasses freak when the unexpected taints their pseudo world, so they usually take it the hardest. Those without your fancy glasses realize like is full of speed bumps and imperfections. We stay cheerful because we're not as affected. We accept the niggles, skip over the inadequacies, and keep looking for the brighter beam we know is out there. I guess some people roll with the punches and some people get bitter beer face, then do everything they can to cram it down the throats of everyone else.
...But to each his own, I guess.
The problem is, trog, it's not just about being negative. It's deliberate because you're quite selective in your choice of words, phrases and "digs." I respect people's opinion's (despite the majority differing from my own). That's different, however, from someone trying to exert their experience with the "I'm SO over that phase and have moved on and everyone who is in that phase is beneathe me" attitude.
A newby's excitement is also their inspiration. They draw from the idea that this CAN work, and just because they might be lively and more self expressive than you might've been, doesn't mean they're like a new kid in the candy story. Perhaps that's how they take ALL of life. Perhaps they always try to stay fun, or positive, or excited. Because THAT is what they draw their strength from.
Years...and years...and years...ago, I started reading electronically. One year the Academy presented their awards using an ebook. I'd been waiting an eternity for society to get on board. When they finally did, and were oh so excited about it, did I sit around on my holier-than-thou throne and mock their excitement? Yeah...NO. That's what I initially wanted, right? Thank god, so many got on board! Then again...that's me.
Ah, what comes to mind here is one of my favorite phrases: "What people judge most about others is what they really hate about themselves."
I'm sorry to hear that you stumbled onto e-cigs because you're in the "the gee wow whiz buy everything on the planet phase," but I'm still happy you discovered them. I discovered them because I was looking for a way to help myself not die sooner than necessary.
But, again, we're all different.
Peace, my brother! Oh, and I accept your apology for being so negative. We all have our moments.
I really don't know what average is because I change mine out constantly. Like to give the little guy a break at the end of my work day. I go through maybe 3 batteries a day. So far so good with both the atomizers and the batts.
Honestly, when one dies, aside from taking it a part to see what makes it tick (translation: making hubby take it a part), I'll probably just buy a couple of new ones.
NOTHING last forever, right? This is new to all of us and our smoking needs vary. So atomizer lives will vary as well. In all the reading I've done, I don't think there's an exact answer for this yet.
Cass, what a lovely world it would be if everyone had your outlook on life
yes what a lovely world it would be.. i tell the truth because i think the truth is important.. you quite clearly are a dreamer who lives in their own fantasy land and dosnt wish to heat anything that interferes with that happy fantasy..
okay carry on.. my comments are intended for those who would like to perceive a different kind of truth.. they are quite clearly wasted on you..
captain is that an iceburge up there in front of us.. nah not thru my glasses it aint.. .get on with rearranging them there deckchairs and stop being "negative".. he he he
sorry.. but the bringer of bad news never gets a warm welcome.. in fact they sometimes get shot for their services..
trog
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Actually, one of her points was about wearing rose-colored glasses:
"Life is full of niggles and inadequacies. Owners of rose colored glasses freak when the unexpected taints their pseudo world, so they usually take it the hardest. Those without your fancy glasses realize like is full of speed bumps and imperfections. We stay cheerful because we're not as affected. We accept the niggles, skip over the inadequacies, and keep looking for the brighter beam we know is out there. I guess some people roll with the punches and some people get bitter beer face, then do everything they can to cram it down the throats of everyone else.
...But to each his own, I guess"
I think her point was that yes, life is full of the unexpected but we'll just try and take it all in stride. Most people here are willing to accept the downfalls of e-cigs because of the positive changes it brings to their lives. I think a lot of newcomers that visit these forums do so to get more info about e-cigs from people who have been using them longer. We appreciate the knowledge-sharing, even when its negative.
However, when someone who has been smoking for a long time has tried to cut down or quit several times without success and then finds a product that helps them do so, they will be excited about that. Nothing wrong there. Saying that people are in a "new toy" phase may be true to a certain extent, but the way you sounded in your post was a little condescending. I feel like I am getting to "know" some of the people here on the forums; if you've read Cass' story, she was a very heavy smoker who is proud (and should be!) about the accomplishments that she has made since trying e-cigs. Point is, I took your post as a taking the air right out of her sails. And despite a negative response to her comment, she still found a positive response back to you. That is why I said I like her outlook on life...
Okay, I am not trying to start a flame war here
Just trying to explain myself a bit further and how I see things as a mostly quiet observer of this forum world Forgive me if I've stepped on any toes hereu aint reading on any toes.. but i am continually being attacked for being none happy bunny negative about our new "things"..
cass is pretty much doing just that.. she is a writer and churns out the written word like a machine gun.. and it isnt new to all of us.. just some of us.. and as long a we covers up the faults that anyone who has used them for some time are fully aware of.. the people who make and sell us them will do nothing about improving things..
there is a positive side to my negatively.. my aim is to get us better e cigs..
there is also a negative side to happy bunny land.. it gives the makers and sellers no incentive to improve things.. why bother if all the bunnies are happy with what they have...
trog
cass is pretty much doing just that.. she is a writer and churns out the written word like a machine gun.. and it isnt new to all of us.. just some of us.. and as long a we covers up the faults that anyone who has used them for some time are fully aware of.. the people who make and sell us them will do nothing about improving things..
there is a positive side to my negatively.. my aim is to get us better e cigs..
there is also a negative side to happy bunny land.. it gives the makers and sellers no incentive to improve things.. why bother if all the bunnies are happy with what they have...
trog
You definitely have a point that manufacturers won't do anything if we just accept the fact that batteries and atomizers die too soon. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.
Like I said, I'm happy I found this forum so that I won't be surprised when these things happen to me. It is nice to learn about the good and bad of e-cigs. An internet forum wouldn't be complete without people sharing their thoughts and opinions, however different people might be about expressing them
Well, I don't even have my first e-cig yet, so I can't vote here, but it is nice to read what other people have experienced in atomizer life...
My 901b has been going well since I got it about a month ago, though I have been swapping it out with a few others I bought, keeping an untracked rotation going.
In the last month and a half, I have gone through 4 atomizers for my 801 Pen
Had one go 3 weeks, then 3 in a row.
They ALL went Cold.
One i think was burned out by a cleaning cycle, i left the battery on over night (Dumb)
Needs to be a way to repair them. $10+/- a week, + batteries, is not saveing me alot money wise
Is there one that lasts with heavy use? Cigar? bling? pipe?
My guess they are all about the same, the heating elements are just to deliacte/brittle/Cheap.
Had one go 3 weeks, then 3 in a row.
They ALL went Cold.
One i think was burned out by a cleaning cycle, i left the battery on over night (Dumb)
Needs to be a way to repair them. $10+/- a week, + batteries, is not saveing me alot money wise
Is there one that lasts with heavy use? Cigar? bling? pipe?
My guess they are all about the same, the heating elements are just to deliacte/brittle/Cheap.
its a built in design factor magus.. just like a cart can only last so long so can an atomizer.. there is no problem with this except people are not being told so...
i have only come across one seller who makes an attempt to clarify atomizer life.. this is intelicig.. in the "small print" its says around 6000 puffs..
this might sounds a lot but it isnt.. not for someone like me..
trog
i have only come across one seller who makes an attempt to clarify atomizer life.. this is intelicig.. in the "small print" its says around 6000 puffs..
this might sounds a lot but it isnt.. not for someone like me..
trog
my first DSE103 atomiser has lasted over 3 weeks ... admittedly I bought some spares now that i know they can break, but my original shows no sign of dying just yet!
I must admit though that I change my cart/drip new liquid VERY often (as soon as the flavour drops - the volume remains but the flavour disappears so I drop some more liquid)
I must admit though that I change my cart/drip new liquid VERY often (as soon as the flavour drops - the volume remains but the flavour disappears so I drop some more liquid)
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What color light is on your black 901? I notice a different draw with different colors. Don't know why that would be. Maybe it's psychological???
Same here, bjmoney, that's why it's so hard to tell. When I switch out batteries, I automatically change atomizers.
There was no truth in your statement to me. It was an uninformed/uneducated opinion. Hopefully, I don't have to yank out Websters to explain the difference.
You implied something about someone who basically buys "everything on the planet". I guess to understand what you mean, I need a list of these gadgets that I own. I think it's wonderful that you know so much about me. Better than I know myself, I guess. And after you provide me with a list of " everything on the planet" that I've purchased, can you also tell me where I hid them? I'm dying to see my purchases!
I guess I'm confused. You weren't bringing me bad news. You didn't give me an informative post with atomizer use suggestions. You weren't saying, "Hey be careful of x-y-z because here's what historically happens." I made a statement that I couldn't give a fair assessment of atomizer life because I rotate mine so often. And to this you responded with sarcasm, obvious attempts at arrogance, and rudeness. This isn't a case of "don't shoot the messenger" (so please stop with that cop-out) because you weren't giving a message. You chose to randomly be rude. Can I do anything about that? Uh...no. You're a big boy. You deal with people how you will. You put words out in a very specific manner just to get a rise because your post served no purpose except to dog on someone. Nothing I can do about that. I guess that works well for you in your life. I can, however, address the post because you did make it to me, for whatever invented reason.
Thank you. That's exactly my point. I'm not sure where the initial post stemmed from or what the point was, but it is what it is.
This is very true. There's a difference between negative and informative though, I think. It was definitely the informative messages, some were pro and some were con, to the different types of e-cigs, how to best care for them, etc, that helped me make a decision. After weeks of research, I, like everyone else, made the dive. This is costing us money (which it feels like no one has these days) so hearing both sides of product is a huge benefit.
You're right, it was condescending. One thing I despise about forums and email is that it's sometimes hard to tell a person's tone by the typed word. Of course, my human reaction was to take offense, but then I realized I was probably reading it wrong. (I have this whole "crazy idea" about giving people the benefit of the doubt--silly me) so I stepped back and went back to work instead of answering right away. But the fact is, no matter the benefit I can try to give, the post was what it was. So, I answered...which I'm sure was just what he wanted.
You're right, Heart's Smoking, I am VERY happy at smoking less. Everyone at work is trying to quite now. I think we may be in a competition!
And as far as the wind in my sails...I always remind myself...it's my wind, my sails, my world. There's little anyone can do to touch it.
Thanks for helping clarify what I was trying to say.
I don't know what to say about this "continually being attacked." I answered ONE of your posts. And when you were being " none happy bunny negative" (as you call it) about our new "things.," you didn't mention e-cigs. You attacked my choice to "rotate atomizers." Why my rotating atomizers lit such a fire, I don't know. As I said, I rotate many things in my life. I didn't realize my personal habits would get people I don't know so defensive and angry. It's strange (but it's also made for a GREAT paper for my next psych class).
So, let's get this straight (it's always important to me that I'm on the same page at the person I'm talking to):
First of all you weren't attacked (uh, but thanks for giving me such power). Secondly you weren't being negative about our new "things," you were being negative about me. And thirdly, let's be very clear: You are attacking. Your pattern is this: You put out negative comments, wait for people to respond, then you can say, "Look what everyone is doing to me!" Many people who do this will usually qualify it with, "I was trying to be helpful...informative...(fill in the blank). Stop saying your post had anything to do with ecigs. It didn't. And in response to your post, I didn't defend ecigs. I defended myself because that's what you were insulting. Back pedaling doesn't change your words. It just shows you trying to justify what you said (which you wouldn't have to do if you were right to begin with).
In what way?
I'm direct and don't speak in code, so I have no clue what this means. It's not your fault, trog. People who don't speak in code only understand direct truth. So sometimes we have trouble understanding insinuations or underlying secret messages. Or maybe I'm just really slow and you're above me. Yeah, that's probably it.
What does that mean "churns out the written word like a machine gun"? You've read my books? Or is this another assumption on your part?
How do you know the speed and accuracy in which I write? Are you 100% sure that I'm not physically/mentally challenged and actually struggle just to write these posts with any kind of accuracy?
If you could clarify for those of us beneath you, I could probably respond.
This we can agree on. Here's the problem though. I bought e-cigs and supplies. I've had success with them. Am I lucky? Perhaps. I notice better drags, harder drags, better and worse flavors in between types. I'm experimenting and have noticed differences here and there. Nothing worth mentioning though. Should I lie and say I've had problems? I'm sorry some atomizers have died so quickly. Or some batteries don't work as well as others. But I haven't experienced that.
People's experiences here should be their TRUE experiences. If you're telling the truth about your experience, why should I have to lie about mine?
EVERYONE here knows what happened to me and the e-cig when I first got it. It wasn't the greatest match. I problem-solved beyond that. Because I've had good experiences since then, why is that so morbidly bad to you? Why are you so bothered by the success of others? Why is it that my positive attitude send chills up your spine and gets you so geared up that you feel alive again because you have someone to argue with?
I say, choose your arguments, man. Because when you don't, when you pot stir just for the sake of it, people can't hear good points you might have. You lose a potential audience.
Right. And I get that. But that has nothing to do with the post you drove into me. Go back and read it. Were you talking about ways to improve e-cigs? Or does it sound like someone trying to tear down another's success?
I'm not going to lie to make you feel better. I just don't roll that way.
And again, all I can say is this: My experience is based on day to day use. Despite prodding, I'm not going to lie to make things better. I'm not going to lie to satisfy you.
This is truth: if after a month or two...if my atomizer dies, do you know what I'm going to do? I'll buy another atomizer. I expected that when I jumped into this. That's what I was told to expect.
Everyone is different. Some people get a flat tire and freak out. It ruins their day. They run around telling everyone how their week is ruined over a tire. Finally, some excitement in their life.
And some people eye the tire and say, "Yep, that sucks. Guess I better get a new tire."
I'm the latter. With as much true tragedy I have in my life, it's a joke to freak over a tire. Same goes for atomizers. If I've had one for a decent amount of time and it dies, I'll probably eyeball it and think, "If this is the worst thing I have to deal with today, I'll take it!" I guess my real issues in life simply shadow such things.
But like I told you before, to each his own. I can't make you think like me anymore than you can make me think like you. Thank god for variety, right?
What color light is on your black 901? I notice a different draw with different colors. Don't know why that would be. Maybe it's psychological???
I've been finding the same Cass........I have 4 blue, which have the hardest draw.....2 green which are the easiest draw.....And 3 orange which are in the middle........And as time goes on, the difference seems to become more pronounced ..........
he he he.. anything i say in a public forum is intended at a wider at audience cass.. if i wanted to engage in a private conversation with u i would choose another medium..
what u do on an individual level is of no relevance to me.. dont take things so personally..
end of my participation in this thread.. no more comment.. i retreat with my tail between my legs.. he he
trog
what u do on an individual level is of no relevance to me.. dont take things so personally..
end of my participation in this thread.. no more comment.. i retreat with my tail between my legs.. he he
trog
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