Looking for a rec on a mod to use with genesis atty

[jharres]

Hi All,

I've recently purchased my first genesis atty (AGA-T2) and I am looking for a recommendation for a mod to use with it. I'd like something that is durable and well made. I currently have a Lambo 4.0 from MVS and the button is getting flaky. I've tried a Lavatube and had similar issues with that as well. I don't mind paying decent money for a mod, but am not in the market for the higher priced ones like a GG or the like (i.e. $200+ mods).

Now, I've seen plenty of reviews and recommendations on mods, but not really seen anything recommended specifically for vaping with a genesis style atty. I also know that folks love their Provaris and I am considering one myself. However, I figured I might look for a little more specific recommendations from those of you who've been there before me, before I commit to buy one. One concern I do have about the Provari is the amp limitations. Will they be restrictive enough to prevent me from tinkering and trying new things with my AGA-T2? Or is that not really an issue to be concerned with?

Any advice is welcome and I appreciate your input.

Regards,
Jacob

 

[BuzzKilla]

as long as you stick to coils above the 1.4~1.5 ohm range a provari will work... just not over 4.5volts...
But the reason people love Genisis Tanks, is the low ohm vaping... 0.8~1.3ohms
So a provari may not cut it.

strong and reliable and easily available... well most of the time.
Look into a Precise by Super-T Manufacturing.

I had a Precise+18650 and it worked like a champ!
get one on the classifieds if you aren't a fan of the cost on their site, warranty is lifetime & transferable.

Thant is my recommendation

 

[Baditude]

I have both a mechanical Silver Bullet and a Provari. I currently have 2 AGA T2 Genesis tanks. I actually bought the AGA to put on the Silver Bullet, as it had been collecting dust since I began using the Provari and a couple of other VV PV's.

I've found that the Provari has been invaluable in helping me set up my AGA's. I had bought a digital multimeter as many experienced RBA users said they were required. Well, I have yet to even open the box for the multimeter; the Provari can do it all and more.

It has the built in atomizer meter. It can also fire down to 2.0 volts. I prefer a cooler vape so the appeal of sub-1.0 ohm coils have no appeal to me. I build my coils to be 2.0 ohm. The Provari is useful for finding hot spots or shorts that I am unable to visibly see myself, by warning me with error codes that one exists somewhere in the coil. I then fiddle and prod the coil until it is satisfied. It is also extremely useful for doing the incremental power pulses used to oxidize the coil before adding the juice, which a mech mod can't do. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxGfAmIcs70

As I said, my original intention was to use the AGA on the Silver Bullet, but the vape experience with it on the Provari is superior to that on the Bullet. I can change the voltage to my pleasure depending upon the flavor that I happen to have in my two tanks; you can't do that with a mechanical mod. So I don't buy into the common statement that a mechanical mod is needed to fully enjoy a Genesis style atty. Much is dependent upon your style of vaping.

 

[TKirk2]

I am by no means an expert in this and I am also in the process of trying to make this decision. In my own research I believe I read that the provari will not go above about 15w, on the 2.0 that is. Whether or not that is enough power for your RBA would depend on what ohm you choose to make your coil. If you build a 1.5 ohm coil for that aga and run it at 4.0v thats around 14.5w and should do just fine on a Provari. A mechanical mod will of course allow you to go lower due to the higher wattage output available.

I am still trying to decide between a kicked Legacy (which would allow me to remove the variability and to low ohm RBA's) and a Provari. Can't decide....

 

[TKirk2]

Bad may have just helped me though...lol

 

[Stephenst4470]

The Kick has a 10 watt limit.


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[jharres]

I've been vaping for about 3 years now. The majority of that time has been spent dripping on LR attys with a standard 3.7 battery. I did build a few 5v box mods, but got tired of messing with the smaller batteries (14500s) and switched to an 18650 mod. Last year I picked up the Lavatube and I really fell in love with the VV ability and started playing a bit with higher ohm attys, carto tanks and the CE4 tanks. I enjoy playing around and messing with my setup, which is why I bought the AGA-T2. After reading through the #500 SS Mesh thread (well a lot of it anyway), I was intrigued by the ability to completely customize my setup.

One of my main concerns about the VV mods is that they seem more fragile and prone to errors (at least in my limited experience), which is why I started looking at the mech mods again. My wife also has a Silver Bullet and that thing is a tank. It doesn't matter what you throw at it, it just keeps going. She's had the same SB for the past two years, while I probably have gone through 8-10 devices. I'm tired of buying new devices because my last one broke or flaked out on me.

As I stated before, my second concern was the limited amps. Though, I don't know that I will need to push it past 15w of output, so it may not be a problem anyhow. I'm not a fan of the burnt taste, or hot vapor experience, I rather prefer a cooler, cloudier vape, but lots of vapor, not little bits. More than likely, I'll be sticking in the range of 1.2-2.8 ohms of resistance on what I build, so the amp limitations of the provari may not be a problem.

 

[Hello World]

I've recently purchased my first genesis atty (AGA-T2) and I am looking for a recommendation for a mod to use with it.

If you wrap them with Kanthal 32ga and keep the coil resistance above 1.5 ohms, pretty much any APV should be able to push it. They don't take much power. Depending on your vaping preferences, many will do 30ga as well. If you get down to 28ga, then more power is required and a mechanical mod often recommended.

 

[wv2win]

The VAMO has a top limit of 15 watts, which is the highest of any APV that I am aware of and a 5 amp switch regulator which is also the highest on the market. With those specs and being Power Regulated, you shouldn't have any problems with whatever you put on it. It uses either 18650 or 18350 batteries.

 

[jharres]

If you wrap them with Kanthal 32ga and keep the coil resistance above 1.3 ohms, pretty much any APV should be able to push it. They don't take much power. Depending on your vaping prefences, many will do 30ga as well.

I've purchased some 28ga, 30ga and 32ga. I know the 28ga is typically used for making ultra low resistance coils, but I figured I would give it a shot with several wraps to see if it produces more vapor at a higher resistance.

 

[jharres]

The VAMO has a top limit of 15 watts, which is the highest of any APV that I am aware of and a 5 amp switch regulator which is also the highest on the market. With those specs and being Power Regulated, you shouldn't have any problems with whatever you put on it. It uses either 18650 or 18350 batteries.

What is the durability of the VAMO though?

 

[wv2win]

What is the durability of the VAMO though?

It's only been out for about 5 - 6 months, I believe. From what I have read on here, it seems to be holding up well. When you consider it costs about $40 - $45, if it lasted a year it would be a bargin. Here is a review from a trusted ECF member and a supplier's site. The fact that it is Power Regulated makes it well worth it:

VAMO Variable Volt/Watt APV V2

A PBusardo Review - The Vamo - YouTube

You would have to move up to a Darwin to get this level of features outside of the VAMO. The Darwin is a top of the line APV and the first Power Regulated one but it will run you about $245. That does include the battery, however and no charger is required with the Darwin. If you want quality, it comes with a 2 year warranty on the PV and 1 year on the battery. I'm a heavy vaper and the battery provides me about 18 - 21 hours on a charge using 1.5 ohm dual coil cartos. My battery is still doing fine at the 2 year mark.

 

[BuzzKilla]

I am by no means an expert in this and I am also in the process of trying to make this decision. In my own research I believe I read that the provari will not go above about 15w, on the 2.0 that is. Whether or not that is enough power for your RBA would depend on what ohm you choose to make your coil. If you build a 1.5 ohm coil for that aga and run it at 4.0v thats around 14.5w and should do just fine on a Provari. A mechanical mod will of course allow you to go lower due to the higher wattage output available.

I am still trying to decide between a kicked Legacy (which would allow me to remove the variability and to low ohm RBA's) and a Provari. Can't decide....

The Limit on The Provari is in amps not watts... They are two different things.
the limit is 3.5 Amps, last i checked. And that is theoretical... when i try to get close to that limit i get E2 codes...
and i haven't been able to get the ohm reader on the Provari to be able to read anything under 1.3ohms.

From my personal experience, Genisis-Style Tanks perform best @ 1.1 ohms... To put that into perspective, i liked my Cisco Attys & CE2 Cartos @ 1.8 ohms.

To get your moneys worth out of a Geni-Tank... you have to run a low ohm coil.
And no chipped mod will be able to do that.

My current setup on a freshly charged battery pushes 19watts @ 4.6amps.

 

[jharres]

The Limit on The Provari is in amps not watts... They are two different things.
the limit is 3.5 Amps, last i checked. And that is theoretical... when i try to get close to that limit i get E2 codes...
and i haven't been able to get the ohm reader on the Provari to be able to read anything under 1.3ohms.

From my personal experience, Genisis-Style Tanks perform best @ 1.1 ohms... To put that into perspective, i liked my Cisco Attys & CE2 Cartos @ 1.8 ohms.

To get your moneys worth out of a Geni-Tank... you have to run a low ohm coil.
And no chipped mod will be able to do that.

My current setup on a freshly charged battery pushes 19watts @ 4.6amps.

Good info. I've vacillated between 1.5 and 1.8 ohm LR attys. The head I have on my Vision Stardust thingy is 1.8 and I typically vape it around 4.0-4.2v (giving me around 10w output). Now, based on calculations, it appears that I should be able to vape a 2.4 ohm coil at 5.8 volts (giving me 14w output, which is probably about my upper limit) and not push the batteries much past a 2.3-2.4 amp draw. With yours pushing 4.6 amps, do you see any issues with the batteries?

 

[Hello World]

I've purchased some 28ga, 30ga and 32ga. I know the 28ga is typically used for making ultra low resistance coils, but I figured I would give it a shot with several wraps to see if it produces more vapor at a higher resistance.

Personally, and everyone has their own sweet spot, I like around 1.7 - 1.9 ohms and vape at 3.7v. These settings remain the same for me regardless what gauge wire I use. In each instance I get what I could characterize as more horsepower, a more voluminous vape, but the quality of the taste stays pretty much the same.

I look at it as running on 4, 6 or 8 cylinders if that would serve as an analogy.

 

[BuzzKilla]

With yours pushing 4.6 amps, do you see any issues with the batteries?

On my mechanical Im still well within my battery limitations...

I like using my mod in "18350 mode", and i only use AW IMRs.
AW IMR 18350 have a max. continuous discharge rate of 6 amps, so there is no problem...
The 18500's and 18650's is even higher, but since i switch it up so often, i always make sure to keep it below 5 amps, for safety.

Official specifications: AW IMR 18350
Nominal Voltage : 3.7V
Capacity : 700mAH
Lowest Discharge Voltage : 2.50V
Standard Charge : CC/CV ( max. charging rate 2A )
Cycle Life : > 500 cycles
Max. continuous discharge rate : 6A
Operating Discharge Temperature : -10 - 60 Degree Celsius
Dimensions : 18.15 x 34.82 ( +/-0.05)mm

 

[double_aa_ron]

I like to run super low resistance on my gennies. With that in mind I only use mechanical mods with them. I've got a few now.
The Curve from nhaler and two china gg's from hoosier vapes. The Curve is all SS with a brass top and bottom cap and cost me about $120. The china GG's are chrome and fake gold plated brass and cost me about $35 each. To tell you the truth, I prefer the china GG's. I like the button and the weight better (the Curve is just uncomfortably heavy). The over all feel of the PV is good. It seems sturdy and well made. We'll see if it stands the test of time. I say give it a shot. For 35 bucks, what do you have to loose?

 

[jharres]

The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards a mechanical mod. I appreciate the recommendation of the china gg. I'll give it a look. Though, I tend to like a heft to my mods, so the curves weight would probably be a plus for me.

Along those lines, my quality options seem to be the Super T, the pure smoker legacy and the curve. Can anyone make any other recommendations for a quality mechanical mod?

As a side note, I don't want a Silver Bullet or an Omega. My wife has a SB, and it's great, but I'd like something a little more slick looking. Something that would compliment my nice new AGA-T+.

 

[jasl90]

The Limit on The Provari is in amps not watts... They are two different things.
the limit is 3.5 Amps, last i checked. And that is theoretical... when i try to get close to that limit i get E2 codes...
and i haven't been able to get the ohm reader on the Provari to be able to read anything under 1.3ohms.

From my personal experience, Genisis-Style Tanks perform best @ 1.1 ohms... To put that into perspective, i liked my Cisco Attys & CE2 Cartos @ 1.8 ohms.

To get your moneys worth out of a Geni-Tank... you have to run a low ohm coil.
And no chipped mod will be able to do that.

My current setup on a freshly charged battery pushes 19watts @ 4.6amps.

Actually the ProVari has both a 3.5 amp limit and a 14.5 watt limit. ProVape just doesn't publicize the watt limit.

I've still got the email from Cecelia at ProVape that does a good job of explaining.

 

[BuzzKilla]

Actually the ProVari has both a 3.5 amp limit and a 14.5 watt limit. ProVape just doesn't publicize the watt limit.

If that is true than we should hypothetically run a 1.2 ohm @ 4.1 volts.... Without throwing codes.

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