Looking for a straight shot, order and go simple setup to try vaping.

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A few comments to share from your first experience, Punkonjunk:

vaping is different from smoking. Many first time vapors have some issues with vapor often resulting in coughing. It took your body time to adjust to smoke, it will take your body time to adjust to vapor.

How much e-liquid did you put in your cartomizers and clearomizers? It sounds like they were not filled properly or with enough liquid. Sad to say, once a cartomizer tastes "burnt", it likely is and is ruined. The filler that is in them CAN burn and nothing can get rid of that taste once burnt.

What ohm are your clearomizers and cartomizers? LR (low resistance) delivery devices can taste burnt to some people, as they end up preferring a "cooler vape". Standard resistance (2.0 - 2.5 ohm) or even high resistance (2.5 - 3.0 ohm) may be more to your liking.

Did you only get the one flavor of juice? I've found fruit flavors to taste best at a lower voltage (3.4 - 3.7 volts). It could be you just don't care for that flavor of juice.

I might have more things as I think of them....
 

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A few comments to share from your first experience, Punkonjunk:

Vaping is different from smoking. Many first time vapors have some issues with vapor often resulting in coughing. It took your body time to adjust to smoke, it will take your body time to adjust to vapor.

How much e-liquid did you put in your cartomizers and clearomizers? It sounds like they were not filled properly or with enough liquid. Sad to say, once a cartomizer tastes "burnt", it likely is and is ruined. The filler that is in them CAN burn and nothing can get rid of that taste once burnt.

What ohm are your clearomizers and cartomizers? LR (low resistance) delivery devices can taste burnt to some people, as they end up preferring a "cooler vape". Standard resistance (2.0 - 2.5 ohm) or even high resistance (2.5 - 3.0 ohm) may be more to your liking.

Did you only get the one flavor of juice? I've found fruit flavors to taste best at a lower voltage (3.4 - 3.7 volts). It could be you just don't care for that flavor of juice.

I might have more things as I think of them....

Well, I wish that video, or any video I had watched at any point mentioned that the wicks can take some time to fill up, or whatever the hell happened. it sat for a minute after I filled it, in every video they dive right to it. I can't see how it had burned.

cartomizers are 2.5ohm, clearomizer is 2.8ohm.

The clearomizer wasn't started until I'd filled it completely, just up to the clear gaskety thing on the inside, as per multiple videos on filling them.


How the hell did I burn it? Why isn't this something thats mentioned more often, or ever? It tastes VERY clearly like burning, but so does the cartomizer I filled. I was talkin' to a buddy and he's telling me they need to sit a while, but this isn't mentioned anywhere, with the device, on my orderform or on the website, or in any of the videos that I watched. I don't get it.
 

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I always considered clearomizers not to my liking. I order a couple time to time to see if they have improved. The last time was a couple of months ago and they gave a harsh burnt taste. Sorry that your experience mirrored mine. Chalk it up to experience? :unsure:

I only recommend them to new vapors because they are so easy to use, and there are hundreds of vapors who swear by them as their favorite delivery device.

Between me and you, I'm not a big fan of any string-wicked delivery device. I don't believe they can keep up wicking like a cartotank can, I find the need to frequently tip or swirl them to keep the wicks wet to be annoying, and believe that they tend to mute many flavors. Having said that, I did buy a couple of the latest versions of Vivi Nova tanks for my daughter as she is a new vapor, and upon testing them found them to be not bad.

I'm more stumped about the carto experience that you had. If you followed the method I use in my blog on filling them, they should be able to be used immediately after filling them (drip and shake method with a tooth pick).
 

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Could you link that? I looked through the whole post and didn't see that, I'm not sure if I'm confused or what. I followed a video for the cartos that was about 10 drops, shake, 10 drops, spin it in like, a thing to force the juice down, then more drops till it's full, like 5-7 and he just went right through.


I'm honestly starting to think I got a very bad batch of this strawberry fuzz. I'm actually thinking about ordering a vivi tank since they look so simple and straight forward and huge, so we'll see what happens when I get better flavors and new tanks. good thing I still have about a pound of pipe tobacco :)
 

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Could you link that? I looked through the whole post and didn't see that, I'm not sure if I'm confused or what. I followed a video for the cartos that was about 10 drops, shake, 10 drops, spin it in like, a thing to force the juice down, then more drops till it's full, like 5-7 and he just went right through.


I'm honestly starting to think I got a very bad batch of this strawberry fuzz. I'm actually thinking about ordering a vivi tank since they look so simple and straight forward and huge, so we'll see what happens when I get better flavors and new tanks. good thing I still have about a pound of pipe tobacco :)
This is the method that I have used very successfully. Follow it up to the part where the filled cartomizer is to be assembled into a cartotank.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-cartomizer-tank-setup.html

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It's quite possible that the juice is just not to your liking. I've tried about four strawberry flavors from different vendors and didn't care for any of them.
 

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This is the method that I have used very successfully. Follow it up to the part where the filled cartomizer is to be assembled into a cartotank.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-cartomizer-tank-setup.html

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It's quite possible that the juice is just not to your liking. I've tried about four strawberry flavors from different vendors and didn't care for any of them.

Wait. Cartomizers have to be loaded into a tank? I thought the cartomizer and the driptip hooked the battery was good to go.

If they do need some sort of tank, that might be the problem. I pulled both cartos apart, and they were burnt. I know for a fact the second one was filled OK, I checked through with a friend who's been doin' it for a while, both were adequitely wet, like a slushie, or like a sponge: didn't immediately drip, but a touch or squeeze would cause dripping. I have no idea why BOTH cartos had burns around the little coil, I was doing what we saw here, minus the toothpick: gently filling the cartomizer around the edges so as not to flood the hole in the middle, and shaking it or tapping it force the juice down.

I'm not sure why it worked out so poorly.

I also cleaned my clearomizer completely, and the coil, wick, and filter material by the wick are 100% clear and free of any burning or darkening whatsoever.

So I think you are right, that I just hate the .... out of this flavor. Unless it's possible I got a bad battery? I'm no electrician, but I imagine if it was overvolting to the point that it was toasting everything, I feel like 1: my clearomizer would be fried, and 2: the battery would pop and quit, probably. I don't have a multimeter handy right now, or i'd give it a shot, but I'm assuming if it was half-dead it'd still smoke OK, or get better when I crank up the voltage, not worse.

Either way, I have more clearomizer atomizer heads coming, a vivi nova tank and spare part bits, and e-liquid from dripeez that should not taste like chest hair.

Seriously though, I'm betting if I shaved some chest hair off, packed it in my pipe, and did like a blind taste test between the e-cig and the chest hair, 4 out of 5 dudes would agree, this stuff tastes bad.




Final, slightly unrelated question:
How the hell do I know when the battery is done charging? It'll stop itself, right?
 

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Unpunched cartomizers do NOT have to be put in a tank.

If you want a larger juice reservoir however a punched cartomizer in a tank is a VERY nice way to go. I was a clearomizer only person until my F17 carto tank arrived this week. I gotta say it the flavor is great. I don't get dry hits. I am loving it. (that is a a punched carto in a tank). There are far better tanks out there. I just picked up a cheapo to try and see if I liked it.
 

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I watched a lot of video reviews of nicquid tobaccos, like the "strawberry fuzz" I ordered. I don't understand what I might be doing wrong, or why it tastes so terrible, but I DO see that everyone else is getting MUCH, MUCH more vapor, looking much like hookah smoke in a lot of them. No matter what voltage I select my vapor is whispy and dry and burny, like burnt hair.

when more stuff arrives and the dripeez flavor, I'll film the whole damned thing and we'll see if maybe someone can help me pinpoint my stupid here.


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Fired up the ol' multimeter, and the battery is reading correctly. 3.16v on 3.3v setting, but yeah, still smokes like crap. Hey, at least I know it's not the battery! It's not you baby, it's me.
 
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Found a local vape shop, right here in green bay! naturally, the prices are completely insane: but they had samples! I'm thinking my issue was a combination of two things: I'm intolerant of something in some flavors (all have been PG/VG mix, but some I tried in the store also tasted like hair) and I think my atty was bad. after cleaning and changing my atomizer head in the clearomizer, I've been good all day! Already burned through a good 3ml of this banana cream juice they sold at 7 bucks for 10ml, but it's REALLY tasty. dead on banana cream pie.
Happy I finally got this all sorted out! Here's hopin' when the dripeez get here, it's up my alley.
 
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