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Jennyfromtheblock

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Caution - long post. TL : DR - main differences between all the different types of mod and APV that I could think of.

There are fixed voltage ego style batteries that are similar to your EVOD. These are good batteries to simply screw something in to and vape. You have no control over the power being delivered to your topper though and so you have to be careful as to the resistance of the coil head you use.

Then there are VV/VW (variable voltage / variable wattage) ego style batteries like the Spinner II and the Joye Twist. These both have built in batteries that range from 200mAh (barely an hour of normal vaping time) all the way up to 2000mAh which should last all but the heaviest vaper a full day. They also mostly charge with a screw in charger that connects to the top of the battery, where the topper screws in. They often do not have screens but you can change the power delivered to the topper with a simple twist of a dial on the bottom of the battery. I would call these beginner to intermediate devices. (although there are some veterans that still use them because they do a great job in a small form)

Then you have box mods that have a built in battery, like the MVP2, iStick and a few others. These usually have a larger battery than the ego type batteries. The iStick is really small even though it's a box - no taller than a bic lighter and about twice as wide. These charge with a micro USB that connects to the base of the battery usually allowing you to continue to vape while they charge. Again, you can change the power output on these devices and almost everyone can find a good vape with them.

There are some of the higher watt box mods that take replaceable batteries. This means you have to remove the batteries and put them in your own charger to charge. Something like a Sigelei 100w or similar is in this catagory and they have a lot of power. Just to confuse the issue there are also box mods that take replaceable batteries that you can charge with a micro USB charger - think IPV type box mods. I would call these intermediate to advanced devices although a beginner can use them successfully with some reading and education about them and how to use them safely.

Then there are mechanical tubes. These have no circuit board on them and are powered with a replaceable battery. You have no real control over the power delivered to your device other than changing the resistance of the topper. I would consider these intermediate to advanced devices as it usually means using a topper that you have to build the coil yourself - although you can screw in a Nautilus and get a reasonable vape. Of course, you also need a separate charger and batteries for these devices. Mechanical boxes are the same theory as the tube mechanical - but in a box shape. Something like a REO would fall in to this catagory. Mechanical devices need to be used in a safe manner as you can get yourself in trouble quickly if you don't build your coil correctly or use the wrong type of battery. Further reading and learning will be necessary for most people before jumping in to mech(anical)s Some examples are Nemisis, SMPL, Panzer etc.

Finally there are regulated tubes that almost always take replaceable batteries and have circuitry that allows you to select the power being delivered to your device. They almost always have screens that give you information about the vape you are getting. Some examples are Vamo, Innokin VV3 / VV4, eVic, Provari etc.


I'm sure I have forgotten some important details and will leave it to other to pick holes / suggest other devices / set me right :D

seems like i would go with VV/VW. but you now have me thinking about the stick! I don't want something complicated. Just something to vape when i'm craving a cigarette.
 

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seems like i would go with VV/VW. but you now have me thinking about the stick! I don't want something complicated. Just something to vape when i'm craving a cigarette.

Reading back through that wall of text, I think I confused myself.

Might I recommend the VV4 which is a great compromise of power, ease of use, battery life and quality. I'll point you to a great review that Phil Busardo did on it recently. If it's not your thing, check out the Variable Voltage APV Discussion for more ideas about what people are using and what they like / dislike about their devices. Starts about 1:15 in...



Looks like the Ocelot knows, she recommended this on page 1 :)
 

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Reading back through that wall of text, I think I confused myself.

Might I recommend the VV4 which is a great compromise of power, ease of use, battery life and quality. I'll point you to a great review that Phil Busardo did on it recently. If it's not your thing, check out the Variable Voltage APV Discussion for more ideas about what people are using and what they like / dislike about their devices. Starts about 1:15 in...



Looks like the Ocelot knows, she recommended this on page 1 :)


Thank you for posting the video, I'm off to watch it now. I haven't seen any reviews, I hope it's as good as it sounds. I was impressed by the specs.
 

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Busardo really liked it with only minor 'thumbs down' for the fact that it's square and no round topper looks good on it - but the VV3 always got excellent reviews from members and it looks like Innokin took a good thing and made it better. I love that screen on it.

Maybe I'll blog that wall of text I wrote above, I needed the finger exercise anyways.
 

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that looks great! and right in my price range. Does anyone have experience with the spinner 2? would you recommend the VV4 over the spinner2?

Hi Again Jenny. I started vaping with a Vision Spinner 1, and I would always recommend Vision products normally. However, I've seen numerous reports about charging issues with the Spinner II (that it doesn't take a full charge and users have to disconnect and reconnect the charger for a full charge to take place) that I can't recommend it.

Also, when I've seen Vision's response I was very disappointed that didn't seem to want to address the issue at all.

I know the VV4 is a little more expensive, but IMHO I think it's a much better product.

If you are sold on the 'pen style' of the Spinner II, then maybe a Joyetech Twist would be a better option (or a Vision Spinner I)

Watch out that you get only genuine Joyetech or Vision products though.
 

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Hi Again Jenny. I started vaping with a Vision Spinner 1, and I would always recommend Vision products normally. However, I've seen numerous reports about charging issues with the Spinner II (that it doesn't take a full charge and users have to disconnect and reconnect the charger for a full charge to take place) that I can't recommend it.

Also, when I've seen Vision's response I was very disappointed that didn't seem to want to address the issue at all.

I know the VV4 is a little more expensive, but IMHO I think it's a much better product.

If you are sold on the 'pen style' of the Spinner II, then maybe a Joyetech Twist would be a better option (or a Vision Spinner I)

Watch out that you get only genuine Joyetech or Vision products though.

Thanks you have been so helpful InTheShade! I think I will get the VV4 and the nautilus mini or aerotank. thanks again!
 

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My wife has left the house with the Vamo, so I'll have to post up a better picture later showing the size difference. The one below is an old pic I had in my album that kind of shows the difference. The Vamo is in the middle, on either side is a 1300mAh Spinner 1 battery. Click it to enlarge.

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The Vamo is about 2 inches taller and about two to three times as thick and heavy as the spinner.
 

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My wife has left the house with the Vamo, so I'll have to post up a better picture later showing the size difference. The one below is an old pic I had in my album that kind of shows the difference. The Vamo is in the middle, on either side is a 1300mAh Spinner 1 battery. Click it to enlarge.

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The Vamo is about 2 inches taller and about two to three times as thick and heavy as the spinner.

Oh okay I see what you're talking about! VV4 it is!
 

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Oh okay I see what you're talking about! VV4 it is!

Come back to us and let us know what you think of it - as you've already read, it's a pretty new device and I'd be interested to learn more about it.

And you are welcome for all the help, I just really, really hope it does the trick for you. :)
 

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Thought i would add my 2 pennies, maybe others with more experience can post more...i had the evod stock device and had the same issue as you, just didn't really feel like i was getting a good vape so i went today and got an evod twist 2 and it is like a completely new device. And was really inexpensive. It is vv and will screw right on top your tank you have. Same charger too. Now, like i said others may have cons for you on this battery but i love it, especially for the price.
 
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