looking for advice

[andyrox]

Hi everyone. I dont know if I am in the right place, as everything I read looks like Greek to me, and I have no idea what any terminology means. But here is my situ, and if anyone can offer some help, I would appreciate it.

I ordered a V2 starter kit and started it Monday. I have not had a regular cigarette since. I am thrilled, as my goal was to quit smoking.

I know most vets look down on the V2. Here is the deal, I dont really vape for pleasure. I just want to vape the minimum to keep me off cigs, and keep me out of nic withdrawal. Does anyone have any experience with doing this? And is the V2 my best option for doing this? I have no problem buying another unit (are they called units, lol) but I dont want anything crazy techy, and (gasp) I really dont want to fill cartridges. I know, I know. And if you think the V2 will do this job, thats even better.

So again, maybe I am in the wrong place. But if anyone can offer me any advice on anything I mentioned, I would appreciate it.

Thank you!
Andrea

 

[glasseye]

I think that if it's working for you, keep on keepin' on! Great job staying off the cigs! I haven't used a V2 but I have read that some people are very pleased with them and like the flavors. Unlike most? some? of us here, everyone doesn't get mod envy and e liquid insanity. lol

 

[Absintheur]

I started with V2 but it was with the intention of switching, not giving up all nicotine forever. The V2 is a good e-cig and one of the better warranties out there. Their prefilled carts are expensive however and filling your own is both easy and a lot cheaper. Biggest draw back to any of the cigarette style devices is the short battery life. If you plan on staying with them make sure you have at least three batteries and if you are out of the house a good bit a car charger or charger for work.

Another choice in the E-Roll, if you look on here you will find tons of info on them. They are V2 sized but a better quality in many folks opinions.

If you want to move up a bit an eGo twist would be a great way to go. They are a bit larger but one battery will likely last you most of a day. Add a clearomizer like the Kanger T3 and you would be good to go.

I will also add you should be a member of the V2 forum...lots of good folks with experience with the V2 as well as moving on to larger devices.

 

[andyrox]

Thanks, guys! I really ultimately want to quit nicotine, but I guess quitting the cigs is a good place to start.

 

[akatina]

Remember that you're not just addicted to nicotine. You're also addicted to the 4000+ other chemicals in cigarette smoke. On top of all that you're addicted to the actual ACT of smoking. Smoking isn't one addiction, it's THREE.

Move from cigs to PVs gets you off the 4000+ chemicals in cigarette smoke. That's a hard thing to quit! You'll detox, you'll go through withdrawal, all of it. You're still getting nicotine and to your brain you're still "smoking" because vaping satisfies the hand to mouth action of smoking.

Once you're over that first hurdle you can then decide if you want to remove nicotine. If so, most people recommend you step down rather than cutting it all out at once. Let your body acclimate to the change slowly rather than inducing a whole 'nother round of withdrawals.

When you're at 0 nic then you can start to wean off of the physical act of "smoking" (though at this point it'll be the physical act of vaping).

 

[andyrox]

Has anyone on here tried to quit altogether vaping after dropping cigs(and succeeded?) I know this site is more for people who vape for the love of it, but I was just curious if anyone has ever successfully made the total step down and not looked back.

I never thought I would be able to drop cigs after 20 years, and here I am, five days later. I still feel like crap physically. I am not sure if that is the withdrawal from the other chems, or if I am just not vaping enough ( its 11 am and I have only had about 3 hits today).

 

[Caridwen]

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[akatina]

Has anyone on here tried to quit altogether vaping after dropping cigs(and succeeded?) I know this site is more for people who vape for the love of it, but I was just curious if anyone has ever successfully made the total step down and not looked back.

I never thought I would be able to drop cigs after 20 years, and here I am, five days later. I still feel like crap physically. I am not sure if that is the withdrawal from the other chems, or if I am just not vaping enough ( its 11 am and I have only had about 3 hits today).

Feel like crap how? What mg level of juice are you vaping?

My gut tells me you're not getting enough nic if you've only had 3 hits several hours into your day. Vaping low nic throughout the day works for many people because it keeps your nic level consistent. We absorb nic from vapor more slowly than we do when when smoking cigs, so a hit every 2 hours or so won't work to curb nicotine withdrawals like smoking a cig every 2 hours could.

 

[andyrox]

I feel tired, cranky, light headed. LOL

I am smoking V2 and they call it their 6, though I dont think that means 6mg since they highest they sell for people who smoke non filters is 18. But I dont know.

I guess my thought process was, the less I vape, then I can get my body adjusted to the new level of nic Im taking in, making it easier to step down.

 

[akatina]

Yes, 6 almost certainly means 6mg. Which is low (in my opinion).

I smoked a pack a day of ultra lights and started out a month ago at 18. I'm now at 12, and will occasionally use 8 at night so I sleep better.

If you're tired and cranky, I'd lay money on the fact that you're going through nicotine withdrawals. 3 tokes off of 6mg juice several hours into your day isn't a step down from smoking. That's a leap!

 

[Caridwen]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hen-quitting-tobacco-changing-ecigarette.html

You're trying to do two things at once. I'd try to transition off cigarettes to vaping first. Don't be overly concerned about nicotine levels at first. They aren't really as efficient a delivery system as cigarettes, particularly to people new to vaping. Once you comfortably do that, reduce your nicotine dosage if you chose to while monitoring your intake.

 

[andyrox]

I guess I just have no concept of how much nic I need or should have, esp since I do want to lose it for good at some point. I just want to do what I need to keep off the cigs. I thought that if I just take the few occasional hits as needed, my body would come to adjust to only getting that level of nic?

So since you have gone from 18 to 12, do you eventually intend to quit?

 

[akatina]

I guess I just have no concept of how much nic I need or should have, esp since I do want to lose it for good at some point. I just want to do what I need to keep off the cigs. I thought that if I just take the few occasional hits as needed, my body would come to adjust to only getting that level of nic?

So since you have gone from 18 to 12, do you eventually intend to quit?

Your body will certainly adjust to that nic level, but it may not be enjoyable. Withdrawal symptoms are your body's way of letting you know that you're adjusting to a drastic change in its environment.

As for my nic level, I intend to try 0 nic and see what it does. There are positives to having nicotine in your system, not just negatives: it can help with concentration, memory, depression, energy levels, and athletic performance. If I don't feel well at 0 nic, or if I notice a decline in my concentration or skating ability, I will have no issue with introducing a small amount of nic back into my juice.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Took me a year to go from 36 to 10 mg...comfortably without issue or pain. My GP believes nicotine is no different than caffeine and said there are studies beginning to support this. Many of his clients are pro athletes, he knows his stuff and if there was anything wrong with vaping nic he'd most certainly tell me. He's very happy with my progress and hopes one day I can be vape/ nic free BUT is also strongly pro vaping...

 

[Baditude]

Remember that you're not just addicted to nicotine. You're also addicted to the 4000+ other chemicals in cigarette smoke. On top of all that you're addicted to the actual ACT of smoking. Smoking isn't one addiction, it's THREE.

Move from cigs to PVs gets you off the 4000+ chemicals in cigarette smoke. That's a hard thing to quit! You'll detox, you'll go through withdrawal, all of it. You're still getting nicotine and to your brain you're still "smoking" because vaping satisfies the hand to mouth action of smoking.

Once you're over that first hurdle you can then decide if you want to remove nicotine. If so, most people recommend you step down rather than cutting it all out at once. Let your body acclimate to the change slowly rather than inducing a whole 'nother round of withdrawals.

When you're at 0 nic then you can start to wean off of the physical act of "smoking" (though at this point it'll be the physical act of vaping).

Good points made above. I might add to those, besides the physical addiction/dependency of the above drugs and chemicals, one must deal with the psychological issues involved with the smoking habit. This is just as real and difficult to deal with as the physical effects. Vaping an e-cig helps mimic the hand to mouth ritual that has been hotwired into our brains for years. And, for many others, the need to inhale and exhale a warm vapor mimics a similar satisfaction found in smoking.

It is entirely possible to stop smoking with e-cigarettes, then wean the nicotine content down to zero and stop vaping altogether. I personally do not know anyone who has done that. I have gone from 24mg down to 12 mg with no intent of dropping further, as I never had an intention to quit in the first place, and I am content at the nicotine level that I'm currently at.

E-cigarettes have never been in the category as a smoke ceasation device, but merely an alternative nicotine delivery device.

 

[SBlaire17]

I'm sure it's withdrawal. I agree with akatina, that's a big step down. Be gentle with yourself and make adjustments. Experiment. The way I see it, it's all a big experiment anyway. I also had to make sticking to e-cigs a priority. After smoking for as long as I did, it was a miracle I was still alive so I figured I could devote each day to quiting the cigs. I suggest you make the transition as high a priority as you can and pay attention to what is happening to your body.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Recent convert 1 PAD vaping zero nic and having no issues and is happily 6 weeks smoke free.

Good points made above. I might add to those, besides the physical addiction/dependency of the above drugs and chemicals, one must deal with the psychological issues involved with the smoking habit. This is just as real and difficult to deal with as the physical effects. Vaping an e-cig helps mimic the hand to mouth ritual that has been hotwired into our brains for years. And, for many others, the need to inhale and exhale a warm vapor mimics a similar satisfaction found in smoking.

It is entirely possible to stop smoking with e-cigarettes, then wean the nicotine content down to zero and stop vaping altogether. I personally do not know anyone who has done that. I have gone from 24mg down to 12 mg with no intent of dropping further, as I never had an intention to quit in the first place, and I am content at the nicotine level that I'm currently at.

E-cigarettes have never been in the category as a smoke ceasation device, but merely an alternative nicotine delivery device.