Looking for Pall Mall

[ctruth]

Years ago I bought a BIG bottle of Pall Mall flavored juice (24mg) from My Freedom Smokes,
along with a huge amount of 100% nicotine. I was stocking up for the big 2010 FDA scare.

Seems MFS doesn't carry PM anymore.
Can anyone recommend an equivalent good quality USA vendor that has a Pall Mall flavor?

TIA

 

[boomerdude]

Look for Pall or Parmal I think they're Inawera concentrates but that's a guess.

 

[Rickajho]

Are you looking for the pre-mixed liquid or just the flavoring?

 

[ctruth]

Are you looking for the pre-mixed liquid or just the flavoring?

Thanks
Either way, as long as it tastes as good as the stuff I got from MFS.
I have lots of raw nicotine, but I'd be afraid that it might taint the taste of the flavoring....
On second thought, I'd prefer pre-mixed - now that you made me think about it.

 

[Rickajho]

Ok. Couple things to look for: Both Hangsen and Dekang make it in a high PG or high VG pre-mix. (The VG versions are really hard to find at US suppliers.) Dekang labeling for it is "PalMal" and I'm pretty sure Hangsen uses the same name. Of the two I prefer the Dekang version, but that comes down to a personal preference thing.

Right now I can't even tell you where to look for it since I'm a high VG user only and the last two places I could get the VG version of either stopped selling it. If you want or use high PG instead you can find a lot more places carrying it, especially Dekang.

If you just wanted to try it again and see if it's the same as the MFS version, you can get both the PG and VG versions of Dekang liquids at Cignot. Cignot says the manufacturer is Boge. Boge/Dekang... Dekang/Boge - same company. This is gonna cost you though because the largest size they carry is 20 ml, so it's too pricey if you are looking for large quantity. But it is there if you just want to try it.

 

[ctruth]

Ok. Couple things to look for: Both Hangsen and Dekang make it in a high PG or high VG pre-mix. (The VG versions are really hard to find at US suppliers.)

Yeah - that's the rub....
When I started vaping the first time in 2009, I had some really bad experiences with Chinese eliquid; (headaches, sore throat, dizziness, pulmonary problems).

Don't ever want to repeat that!
I know times change, but once bitten.....

Seems to be some (maybe legal) reason manufacturers are leery about calling it "Pall Mall"?
Maybe I'll sample some other US tobacco flavors, to see what I like.

 

[Rickajho]

Yeah - that's the rub....
When I started vaping the first time in 2009, I had some really bad experiences with Chinese eliquid; (headaches, sore throat, dizziness, pulmonary problems).

Don't ever want to repeat that!
I know times change, but once bitten.....

Well yeah, but you do know both Dekang and Hangsen will rebrand (relabel) and sell to any supplier that can meet their MOQ's? For all you know the MFS stuff was Dekang to begin with. The "Original" line at Liberty Flights is nothing more than rebranded Hangsen.

Seems to be some (maybe legal) reason manufacturers are leery about calling it "Pall Mall"?

It's trademark infringement and they get slapped for it.

Maybe I'll sample some other US tobacco flavors, to see what I like.

If you really look into it I think you will find there are hardly any - most of the flavorings used are Chinese imports. If there was real truth in advertising the vast majority of these places claiming "USA made liquids!" would really have to say "USA put together liquids!" Almost everything including the nic they use is imported.

 

[ctruth]

If you really look into it I think you will find there are hardly any - most of the flavorings used are Chinese imports. If there was real truth in advertising the vast majority of these places claiming "USA made liquids!" would really have to say "USA put together liquids!" Almost everything including the nic they use is imported.

Hmmm... I hear U man.
I've suspected as much!!

Now I know why my inner-self has gravitated more and more toward DIY with Capella and Lorann flavors.

Since my resurrection I have s-canned all my (substantial) leftover little bottles of juice from my previous engagement (I'm now at 71 days Smoke Free).

I recently bought some Liberty Flights "samplers". Must admit, they tasted pretty crappy.
The same day I ordered similar flavors from CAP and LO and did the DIY thing.

The difference in taste (and disposition) was like night and day.

Now don't tell me CAP and LO are importing?
Please...don't tell me...