Looking for smooth hitting, great tasting eCig...?

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Sully

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I have been researching and reading all the newbie forums - I'm more confused than ever!

I'm willing to try filling my own cartridges.

I started w/ a V2 from V2cigs - I can't use it! The taste is great on the menthol and I'm using a 2 piece style in medium nic level - I've read proper technique for inhaling e-cigs - but I can't do it. I choke everytime! It's so harsh, I hate it!

Can someone recommend a really smooth, mellow, soft throat hitting, easy drawing, great tasting e-cig?

What about the Totally Wicked Mini - platinum?

I used to smoke Marlboro Menthol Lights - a pack a day - I've got to find the right combo for me! Please help...
 

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The cartomizers are filled with 'juice' or 'e-liquid' that is what creates the vapor. According to the v2 site the model is a KR808D1.

Firehorse was saying that if the v2 is using PG as a base you would get more throat hit. VG base is less thoat hit more vapor. When I first started vaping I would cough almost everytime on the first 4 or 5 drags. I think I was trying to draw on it just like a cig in the morning. That has stopped for me. I have also found several 'juices' that work for me. In addition the new e2 cartomizers have made my experience much better. I found that with the new cartos that the harshness has gone away. They do make the e2 cartos for the KR808D1, vaporjunction has them. You might consider searching YouTube for the Tayrn Spin, there was a video on how to reverse the spin to empty a cartomizer. Then you could purchase some other juice and try it.

Hope that helps some.
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The best eCig available as a kit is the Joye eGo, but, by itself, it won't provide what you are looking for in flavor. Flavor is mostly a product of the juices that you use, and pre-filled carts or cartomizers are almost always lacking in an enjoyable flavor. Once you have the right hardware, I would suggest, you check on various juice suppliers, I use FreedomSmokeUSA for all of my pre-mixed juices, and order several small sample size bottles of flavors that appeal to you, and give them all a try until you find what you like. If you are not sure about what you are looking for in flavor, you can call David or Pam at FSUSA (1-800-705-7013), and they will be happy to make recommendations to you based on your preferences. They also carry hardware, including the eGO, and can help you out there. They are very friendly and knowledgeable, and care about their customers. And, they just announced a 20% off hardware sale for the next 24 hours today.
 
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Sully, if you are looking to buy a different brand or type of e-cig, I'd recommend looking to Cignot.com for the "authentic" Joye 510, along with the new Joye 510 cartomizers. I order the pre-filled version and it's a nice smooth vapor. It shouldn't hurt your throat, depending on the vapor you choose. I use the 18mg menthol PG for my pre-filled cartos.

I'll be elaborate in my response for the sake of newbies and people reading this forum to help decide if e-cigs are for them. If you don't want to bother with refilling cartomizers and just want to slap on a new one each time you need to reload (at least to get started with it), this is a good combination that produces a mild but satisfying vaping experience. A moderate smoker can make a pre-filled Joye 510 cartomizer last most of the day or evening. At the time I write this, Cignot.com is the only distributor in the US that has them, to the best of my knowledge.

If you order empty cartomizers to fill with the juice of your choosing, I still recommend you get the authentic Joye 510 cartomizers from Cignot.com.

If you are choking on the vapor, this could be from several possibilities, including over-dragging, smoking a juice that is inherently harsh, using an e-cig that produces too much vapor for your liking, or simply adapting your throat to accept the vapor as easily as it does cigarette smoke. It may just take a little lighter approach until your throat adapts.

Here are a few tips and cautions...

When it begins to taste a little burnt, right away it's time to switch cartomizers. If you keep dragging on a nearly-empty vaporizer of any brand or type, it will taste burnt and at that point you are doing potential harm to the atomizer, but more importantly, you are inhaling the burnt wicking that holds the juice. No known health problems from this, but not something you want to make a habit of.

If you get to where you can't put it down, you will empty a cartomizer in an hour or two. In that case, you need to learn how to refill them with your choice of juice to keep it economical. This goes for any brand or type of e-cig.

There are numerous threads on how to refill these Joye 510 cartomizers. Some say you have to dismantle the mouthpiece end and use a syringe to refill them. I challenge that notion. Using what's called the "condom method," I just fill the longer end cap to about one half full, then insert the metal tip of the cartomizer into the cap slowly, which acts like a syringe plunger to force the juice into the cartomizer.

If you force in too much juice or force it too fast (not giving the wicking time to absorb it), it will start flowing out the mouthpiece end, which will require some cleaning up or you'll get juice in your mouth, which is less than pleasant. You can get rid of that excess easily, but let the carto soak up that juice for a few hours first by putting both end caps back in place and standing upright with the metal tip down. After they've soaked up awhile, maybe overnight, you can remove the caps and wipe off any excess juice on the cartomizer with a tissue. Give the carto a thermometer-style shake with the mouthpiece downward onto a paper towel or rag. Most of any excess should get shaken out this way. Then you can wipe the mouthpiece dry and take a gentle draw on it at first. If you hear gurgling, it's overfilled and you may draw juice into your mouth. It's not harmful, but tastes nasty and leaves your lips and tongue a little numb from the nicotine. What you can do to help avoid that juice in the mouth is to blow into the metal end forcefully, like a whistle. I suggest wrapping a tissue around the metal tips to prevent getting juice on your lips from that end, and point the mouthpiece toward a tissue or rag to catch what you blow out. Then wipe the whole carto dry with a tissue and draw slowly until you aren't hearing the gurgling anymore.

I prefer the automatic battery myself, although many prefer the manual battery, which requires you to hold down a button to heat the atomizer in the cartomizer (CARTridge/atOMIZER combination unit). This is a simple matter of preference, although each side has strong arguments for their choices. I've have zero problems with the automatic batt and it's so much easier to not have to use that button, IMO.

You can also refill the Joye 510 cartos by dripping juice into the metal tip slowly, one drop at a time. Hold the carto upright with the metal tip upward. Place one drop of juice on that little hole in the battery end and let it soak in, then another drop, and about as fast as you put a drop on top of that little hole, it will draw it inside until it gets full. If you continue to put drops in after it's full, it will start draining out the mouthpiece, and you'll have to use the steps above to avoid juice in the mouth.

If necessary, it's easy to pop out the little plastic tip of the mouthpiece and dry it out inside with a Q-tip... or a twisted part of your shirt, as I saw on one video! :blink:

Hope this helps!
 

Sully

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Wow SRCowell - thank you so much! You have given me much to figure out here. And thank you for recomending websites to look at as well. I do have one more question - I haven't seen anyone recommend the 901 style - which I kinda like the style of it. Is there a reason why? I've only had 510's & KR808 recommended to me which apparently I do have a KR808 in the V2cigs.com that I own. I'm really thinking of trying the VG juice to see if that calms down the harsh throat hit I'm experiencing, but I'm looking into buying a 510 or the 901 style. I'm also looking up vendors who sell the VG Cartomizers...
 

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Sully, the KR8 is a fine e-cig. I like mine much better than the 510. Like others have said, the cartos are refillable, and VG is MUCH smoother than PG. Also I recomend drinking more water. Dehydration causes me to caugh, much more than it did when I was smoking. I would give your device another chance, try some other KR8 cartos, vapor4life.com has VG cartos, they are fairly inexpensive. Why not try some different cartos, or refilling yourself first before you shell out a bunch of money for another e-cig.
 

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Sully - If throat hits are too harsh, it means the nicotine level is too much. When that happens to me, I add a few drops of Glycerin (6 oz bottle available at Wal-Mart on the shelf above the rubbing alcohol for $3.00). This is VG (vegetable glycerin). It will help to double your e-juice, blend the flavors, reduce the strength of the nicotine, and thicken the e-juice. Works great for me!

I usually mix about 1/3 to 1/2 of Glycerin to my e-juices (that are 18 mg or 24 mg of nicotine strength) in a separate bottle. Then I drip that mixture into the mouth end of the cartomizers -- or cartridges, if I wanted to mess around with atomizers and cartridge.
 

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I see so many people here advise to order e-juices with more VG. Why have so many people not heard about buying Glycerin from Walmart? It's only $3.00 for a 177ml (6 oz) bottle, and it works great to thicken the ejuice, double the amount of ejuice, adds vapor, blends the flavors better, and lessens nicotine strength. I found out about this about three weeks ago, when I started vaping and watched a bunch of YouTube videos.
 

LowThudd

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I see so many people here advise to order e-juices with more VG. Why have so many people not heard about buying Glycerin from Walmart? It's only $3.00 for a 177ml (6 oz) bottle, and it works great to thicken the ejuice, double the amount of ejuice, adds vapor, blends the flavors better, and lessens nicotine strength. I found out about this about three weeks ago, when I started vaping and watched a bunch of YouTube videos.

Dude, relax. I DIY all the time. If you read the OPs response, they are using prefilled cartos and haven't even used juice yet. That being said, not everyone wants to DIY their own juice. AFAIK, if you try to add straight VG to a prefilled carto, you'll just end up w/ a mess.
 

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If you add glycerin to your e-juice it will smooth it out but it will also weaken (dilute) the flavor of the juice. LowThudd gave you some good advice. I really enjoy both my KR808 and my Ego. There are vendors that let you "tune" your juice, so you can get whatever PG/VG ratio you want. Too much PG irritates my throat. I vape 50/50 PG/VG. Everyone is different so it takes a little experimenting to find your sweet spot.

Wow, I was typing this at the same time LowThudd was responding so this thread doesn't follow his latest post but rather the earlier one. It's still good advice he's giving you.
 
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LowThudd

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Sully - Buy a higher strength of PG when you order the ejuices (I get 100% PG). Mix the ejuices with Glycerin until you get the right mixture for you (about half Glycerin and half ejuice). Save money that way!

So, you are advising NOT to order VG juice to someone who is dealing with harsh TH? Why would you recomend 100% PG to someone who is having a problem w/ TH. It's simple, try VG juice. Why bother buying juice that needs to be medeled w/ when there is GREAT VG juice from suppliers like Goodprophets.com?
 

Sully

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Ok thanks guys. Since I'm new to all this, I thought it was the e-cig itself and not the cartomizers that could be the issue. I'll try to weaken the 40 pack of cartomizers I have now to see if that helps first. Then I'll order VG cartos to see if that helps. I really want this to work. I also think the manual battery I have actually produces too much vapor - I think I'll switch to an auto where I can control less vapor.
 

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So, you are advising NOT to order VG juice to someone who is dealing with harsh TH? Why would you recomend 100% PG to someone who is having a problem w/ TH. It's simple, try VG juice. Why bother buying juice that needs to be medeled w/ when there is GREAT VG juice from suppliers like Goodprophets.com?

Because it's a way to easily double the ejuice without a loss in flavor. I've tried it both ways and have had no loss in flavor. Buying PG (doesn't have to be 100% PG, that's just what I get) ejuice and then adding VG gives her the freedom to experiment and come up with the best mixture -- and save money at the same time.

I just like doing things the best way, and that's why I spent hours and hours researching all of this three weeks ago. Doing things yourself can save lots of money. I'm a do-it-yourself type of person and spend a lot time researching my obsessions.
 
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