Looking for someone's proven recipe using these flavors (tobacco)

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... or a good place to start

All from wizard labs

Concentrated Commercial tobacco flavoring by Seedman
Concentrated M-type flavoring by The Flavor Apprentice.
Concentrated DK tobacco flavoring by The Flavor Apprentice. they call it 555
Concentrated RY4 type flavoring by The Flavor Apprentice
Concentrated Bavarian Cream flavoring by The Flavor Apprentice
[h=1]tobacco Absolute Flavor Concentrate - 10% Solution (Concentrated Tobacco Extract diluted to a 10% solution in Ethyl Alcohol)[/h]Also have Lorann's

caramel
Black walnut
pecan
root beer
coconut
 

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I just had a splendid success with TPA Tobacco Absolute. TA is very much a "less is more" sort of a thing.

I started with concentrated pure Tobacco Absolute. Pure TA needs a warm water bath before you can handle it easily. I made a 10% solution of PG and ethyl maltol crystals (1/4 teaspoon in 10 mL). To this I added 2 drops of pure TA, and let it sit for 3-4 days.

Then I made a 15 mL batch of my preferred base liquid, and added:

1% (5 drops or 0.2 mL) of TA/PG solution
4% (0.6 mL) TPA French Vanilla
2% (0.3 mL) TPA Dulce de Leche

This makes a rich, cigarette-like flavor that is faintly sweet with just a hint of vanilla.
 

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This is what I'm thinking:
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Grr...

5% m type
.5% commercial
.5% (smallest drop I can get) Tob absolute.
 
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This is what I'm thinking:

5% m type
.5% commercial
.5% (smallest drop I can get) Tob absolute.

I am far too inexperienced to be able to help much, but this I know:

- M-type is very, very potent and dominating. I have used it at 3 drops per 10ml and at 1 drop per 10ml. Both were OK to good (very little other flavouring - but then I am ridiculously sensitive, have to cut commercial tobacco juices for them to be any good for me at all), but so far I would say that M-type will probably dominate anything all too easily.

Five percent of M-type sounds like a lot. If you want it to be dominating (I too like the smell, wonderfully nutty/oily/caramelly!), maybe start at 1 or 2 percent?

The "commercial" (Seedmans?) I have no experience with at all, and when you say "Tob absolute", you mean pre-diluted I hope? I don't think it is ever a good idea to mix undiluted TA (at least not in a household size batch, if you are making a few litres it might be possible).
 

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This is what I'm thinking:
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Grr...

5% m type
.5% commercial
.5% (smallest drop I can get) Tob absolute.
I'm pretty sure you don't want to try to add TA directly. You need to make a dilution with it as I described above. If you do the math, my final liquid contains less than 0.01% TA concentrate. You can't measure that in drops.
 

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Everything I've read about the Seedman concentrate says that it's pretty weak, and needs higher percentages than other tobaccos. I think .5% isn't going to do much (might not even be enough to notice it).

Just a note on the Seedman's flavorings.
To get the disclaimer out of the way... Seedman's flavoring are not FDA approved food flavorings.
They are traditional flavor enhancers used in the tobacco industry to impart certain notes on tobacco when it cures.

For eliquid usage, they are not recommended as a main or primary flavoring.
They are usually used in eliquid recipes as a contributory flavoring or enhancer to other primary flavorings to give them a slightly different flavor profile... to "tweak" them.

I wouldn't recommend using any of the Seedman's flavorings by themselves.
I would recommend adding a little Seedman's flavoring to a recipe based on one of the TPA/Capella/Flavour Art tobacco flavorings to give them a little flavor boost in one direction or another.

I can really only speak to the ones I've tried myself.

The Seedman's Commercial has a flavor profile that's reminiscent of that smell from a freshly opened pack of cigarettes.
It's a light flavor that's hard to put your finger on. It's that first smell that hits your nose when you pull out the little foil paper after unwrapping a pack. I find it a nice addition to almost any tobacco recipe.

The Virginia Fired Cured has a very dark, heavy flavor. Definitely not good on it's own but mixed in small ratios to a main tobacco flavoring can really give it a punch. This one can be an aquired taste like scotch whiskey or stinky cheese. Used right it can make a recipe bold and flavorful... but that first time you taste it, especially if you use too much, can make you hurl.

The English Tobacco has a very bright, light, almost citrus-like/pineapple-like character that adds some higher aromatic notes to a basic tobacco recipe... although I find it can conflict with some heavier flavorings in a way I don't like.
I find it also goes well with some dessert flavorings, cheescake being one of them... but that could be just my own personal taste.

The Captain Black is in a league all it's own. It really adds that pipe smoke quality to it that any former pipe smoker would recognize. Definitely not for everyone, but for those of us who've enjoyed puffing a longstem, it'll bring back memories. I can't take it for too long or as an all-day vape, but I really like mixing it up from time to time when I'm in the mood for something completely different.

In the end, doing DIY eliquids is like cooking in your kitchen.
Some flavorings are meant to be used heavily in your recipes like garlic, basil, onions... others (like Seedman's) are meant to be used like salt... just enough to notice, but not what you want your dish to taste like..
 
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