Looking into mechs

[txfordguy]

So I'm looking at getting started in the mech mod world. I have a fairly good understanding of how they work, but I am caught up with something. Obviously these aren't VW/VV, so is it basically trial and error on what resistance I like on the mech? Is there a certain resistance I should stick around to get the best performance?

By the way, I'm looking at getting the Magneto to start out with. It's pretty affordable, and if I turn out not to be a huge fan of mechs I'm not out that much money.

 

[Feraloxide]

It really depends on what type of vape you want. If you want to be a cloud blower, you could go subohm (make sure your batteries can handle it) dual coil, or even quad coil.

If you just want to chill out and have a vape, a higher resistance single coil might be for you. That's the nice thing about mechanical mods, you can build them however you want for any occasion.

 

[Ace90]

It's true that with a mech mod you lose the option for VV/VW but you could always get a Kick Adapter this will allow you to adjust the VV. I use a dripper on my mod so I can make what ever resistance I want, right now I'm down to a .8 ohm coil. When it comes to resistance it's really personal preference, from my understanding it doesnt matter what ohms you are using on a mech mod.

 

[Firestorm]

If you currently use a VV/VW device and you know what kind of wattage that you prefer for your atomizers that are already at a certain resistance, then you can try to build a coil that gives you the same wattage given the non-regulated voltage of 4.2v down to 3.7v or wherever you plan to recharge your batteries. Perhaps you will standardize on the same resistance coils for all of you juices or perhaps you will tailor the resistance of a given coil in an atomizer for a specific juice. I wrap my coils at 1.3ohms for all of my KFLs and I am satisfied with the vape off a fresh battery down to 3.7v when I recharge my batteries (and sometimes I don't even realize it when I go down well below that). Your tastes may change but it's totally a matter of personal preference and perhaps trial and error are involved.

 

[Weizenheimer]

from my understanding it doesnt matter what ohms you are using on a mech mod.

put the mod down and back away slowly

 

[Despraci]

I would recommend you learn more building coils on a vv/vw before you venture into mechs. Without a good understanding of building and ohms law you could some serious damage... Literally!!!

 

[edyle]

So I'm looking at getting started in the mech mod world. I have a fairly good understanding of how they work, but I am caught up with something. Obviously these aren't VW/VV, so is it basically trial and error on what resistance I like on the mech? Is there a certain resistance I should stick around to get the best performance?

By the way, I'm looking at getting the Magneto to start out with. It's pretty affordable, and if I turn out not to be a huge fan of mechs I'm not out that much money.

With experience on you current vv device you will have no problem using a mech.
All you need do is get used to working your vv device at 3.7 volts.

Its if you go straight to a mech without any experience that you will more likely have a problem.

 

[soulcatcher]

I prefer around .7-.8ohms for a lighter vape, and .4-.5ohms for a harder hitting vape, though taste and pref will vary. I use .4ohm in my RDA, .5ohms in my Genesis, and .7ohms in my Kayfun. This is what works for me.
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Make sure you do the research and mod SAFELY!!! Only use IMR High Drain batteries (Efest IMR 18650 30amp, Sony VTC3/VTC4/VTC5 30amp is best for sub-ohm builds.) Use a calculator to determine the amp draw by plugging in the resistance of the coil you will use, and 4.2V for a fully charged battery; be sure not to exceed your battery's max amp draw!!!!! --->Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

 

[bobrob]

Just curious.. how do you know when to change the batteries in a mech mod?

 

[soulcatcher]

You will notice the vapor production going down ie. you will need to start taking longer pulls. When I notice a difference I recharge.

 

[edyle]

Just curious.. how do you know when to change the batteries in a mech mod?

from experience;

if you got a kick in it the kick will stop.

 

[Ace90]

put the mod down and back away slowly

I use a wide range of ohms on my mech mod ....1.5, 1.8, .9, .8..... so Im not sure what your gettin at ? Can you elaborate ?

 

[Ace90]

Just curious.. how do you know when to change the batteries in a mech mod?

I usually take my dripper off and check the battery life on my omnitester (reads watts and ohms) after like a day or so of use to see where it's at.

 

[soulcatcher]

It's true that with a mech mod you lose the option for VV/VW but you could always get a Kick Adapter this will allow you to adjust the VV. I use a dripper on my mod so I can make what ever resistance I want, right now I'm down to a .8 ohm coil. When it comes to resistance it's really personal preference, from my understanding it doesnt matter what ohms you are using on a mech mod.

I use a wide range of ohms on my mech mod ....1.5, 1.8, .9, .8..... so Im not sure what your gettin at ? Can you elaborate ?

I think its a reference to the statement "from my understanding it doesnt matter what ohms you are using on a mech mod." I matters VERY much the resistance of the coils that you use for safety reasons. Too high is not an issue however too low and you overdraw/exceed the max amps of your battery possibly leading to a thermal runaway.

 

[Ace90]

Ok, so really it depends on the battery that you have in your mech mod. Am I understanding you right ?

 

[Auto-Alex]

Other then that you kinda don't good to keep a volt meter handy. I go 1 4.5ml tank to a recharge. Also depends on your build, I tend to stick to 1.3 to 2.5 ohms. I jump around to keep it fresh.

 

[soulcatcher]

Ok, so really it depends on the battery that you have in your mech mod. Am I understanding you right ?

Yes, it is very dependent on your battery. ex. Sony VTC4 has a 30amp max draw. Regular Efest IMR 18650 (the red one) has a 10 amp max draw. Get familiar w/ an Ohms Law calculator. I use Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators.

Always use 4.2 for the Volts field (4.2V is a fully charged battery) then type in the ohms of the coil you want to use. The calculator will then show you the 'Amps' as well as 'Watts' based on the two fields you have filled in. Ex. .4ohms @ 4.2V = 44.1W and 10.5amps Safe for the VTC4 30amp, but unsafe for the Efest 10amp. Hope that makes sense.

 

[Cabusi]

To be awesome and safe, I'd recommend getting at least two Sony VTC5 batteries with an Nitecore intellicharger. You can usually find both sold together on eBay.

 

[Ace90]

Yes, it is very dependent on your battery. ex. Sony VTC4 has a 30amp max draw. Regular Efest IMR 18650 (the red one) has a 10 amp max draw. Get familiar w/ an Ohms Law calculator. I use Ohm's law | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators.

Always use 4.2 for the Volts field (4.2V is a fully charged battery) then type in the ohms of the coil you want to use. The calculator will then show you the 'Amps' as well as 'Watts' based on the two fields you have filled in. Ex. .4ohms @ 4.2V = 44.1W and 10.5amps Safe for the VTC4 30amp, but unsafe for the Efest 10amp. Hope that makes sense.

Ok, thanks Soulcatcher yea that makes perfect sense. Right now I'm running EH IMR 18650 in my Kamry 101 and it runs great, do you recommend a different battery thats maybe a little better then what I have at the moment? Thanks again

 

[Pcut]

I'm on my first mechanical right now. I bought the extender, by smok, which is the same brand that makes the magneto. I've had it for 2 months and I love it. It has a magnetic switch which is so much smoother than most of the mods I've tried before and it was cheap... $45 at a vape shop. I did t even have to order it. Make sure that if your RDA doesn't have adjustable airflow that you drill wholes out. When I first took a hit off my igow4 it felt like I was hitting my mini protank bc the airflow hole on those things come really small.