Looking into temp control.

[awsum140]

I've got a bunch of iSticks and other VV/VW mods and just bought an Invader Mini, DNA40 clone. To me TC is still in its infancy and there is a ways to go before it really starts to shine. I will say I have no problems working with 30 gauge Ni200 at all and wicking it with rayon. The coil life seems to be fairly extended because overheating, and the gunking that produces, is limited or even eliminated. I do like the iSticks, ipv and other VV/VW stuff, but the Invader has become sort of my main device, especially when out and about.

As far as temp control in Kanthal or nichrome, I'll believe it when I see it. While I am not saying it can't be done, it does require a level of resolution and accuracy far beyond what is available in "garden variety" electronics. Ni200 and titanium vary resistance in terms of tenths and hundredths of an ohm over a range of a couple of hundred degrees. Kanthal and nichrome vary thousandths and ten thousandths over that same range, which is what they were engineered to do to provide good heating elements. Unless some means of monitoring temperature is built in as a separate sensor, and connected to the board separately, it's going to be extremely difficult to do. Connecting a separate sensor would mean the 510 connector has to go, just for starters and then it starts to get very proprietary based on the choices made by each manufacturer.

 

[Joey Price]

thats my exact story. naut mini mvp2 > stmini istick 30 using rba %100 of the time.
i cant touch the nautmini anymore as im spoiled by the stmini.
warning, ur gonna need more juice, learn to diy if u want to keep ur vape budget down.

as for temp control mods, things are changing fast, theyre talking about using kanthal to regulate temps.
for any1 on the fence about buying tc mods just wait a little longer, imo

Been thinking of getting into the diy aswell. Need a little more research for that. Been trying to figure out what hardware to get. That took me a lot of research and time. Lol. Next will be diy juice.

 

[Joey Price]

how did you take the ring off?

I took the ring off of my nautilus. Its gotta be close to the same thing. It was pretty simple. I didn't need the vice or none of that. I just pryed off between the afc and the bottom cap. Its all press fit. Be very careful of the threads tho. Hit up youtube. It can't be too much different.

 

[vincom]

Been thinking of getting into the diy aswell. Need a little more research for that. Been trying to figure out what hardware to get. That took me a lot of research and time. Lol. Next will be diy juice.

im no juice connoisseur, but diy juice is fairly easy, when starting out just keep your mixes simple, 1 to 2 flavorings.
ive been doing it for months and i still just keep it simple, mostly fruit juices at low ratios. it takes me 2 min to mix a bottle.
is it the best juice, idk, but it tastes better than some juices and it satisfies me, especially at pennies/ml.
friends are asking me to mix some for them because theyre fed up of paying ~$20/30ml bottle.

 

[MsFonty]

I just got my evic-vt today but I love it. For 75 bucks.....I might get another

 

[vincom]

I took the ring off of my nautilus. Its gotta be close to the same thing. It was pretty simple. I didn't need the vice or none of that. I just pryed off between the afc and the bottom cap. Its all press fit. Be very careful of the threads tho. Hit up youtube. It can't be too much different.

it is, heres a pic tutorial
Howto: Remove afc from nautilus mini w/pics = increased airflow | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[CGE]

I ordered an Evic VT mainly because it has internal batteries and I don't want to go buy a bunch of 18650's and a charger. It wont ship for a couple more weeks but the anticipation is killing me!

 

[dr3d]

I like the Evic VT for many reasons. At the very least it is worth a look.

 

[CGE]

Got my evic and i like it so far, I still have found the right temp for me though…….I have to play with it for a few weeks although using NI200 wire in my dripper kicks ...!

 

[anou]

I just got the Hana One in the mail yesterday as well as some Ni200 26g. I made a 9/10 wrap around 1/8" screwdriver spaced on my Silverplay V2 and it is AWESOME! I vape at 16 watts at 410 degrees. DNA40's are getting cheap. Vapersharks are on sale everywhere it seems like. The new DNA200 is suppose to drop soon. But, I couldn't wait and jumped on the One. You can't go wrong with an Evolve chip. Their customer service is spectacular. I would invest in a cheap DNA40 mod and when you get the coiling down, I'd move up to a more powerful mod. At least, that's my plan.

 

[Steamer861]

A Vapor Shark RDNA is a real good deal at 130.00 the DNA 40 is defiantly the best TC chip you can get
They sell NI200 coils for all the popular Sub Ohm clearo's if you want to just plug and play.
You can also build your own coils for just about any RTA RDA.
Tempered NI200 is a lot easier to work with and available all over now

 

[Completely Average]

A Vapor Shark RDNA is a real good deal at 130.00 the DNA 40 is defiantly the best TC chip you can get

You'll find a whole ton of people who disagree in the Temperature Control section.

It's buggy and underpowered. The weakest of the temperature control chips. Right now the Yihi SX330J is considered the king of the temperature control, although it may be knocked off it's throne by the Liasimo.

Liasimo has by far the most user friendly chip out there. It's also the most powerful since it's capable of delivering up to 70W in temperature control mode.

 

[1MEANGT]

Just picked up the Snowwolf 200w. Can't wait to do some nickel builds and test her out.

 

[Steamer861]

Temp control isn't about how many watts you have, it's about temperature control in real time.450 degrees can be achieved with 15 watts or 200.
Evolv invented TC EveryThing is else is a Knock Off, Period!
Just to silence all you, I need it bigger and more powerful people, Evolv is releasing a 200 watt TC chip any day now.
Again they will be first with the innovation, you will see it any day now, some thing NEW!! then all of China will follow
And the worst part is all of you who think that the followers /knock off artists are doing a better job making TC Chips.
I guess your entitled to your opinion, Even if you can't see the forest for the trees!

You'll find a whole ton of people who disagree in the Temperature Control section.

It's buggy and underpowered. The weakest of the temperature control chips. Right now the Yihi SX330J is considered the king of the temperature control, although it may be knocked off it's throne by the Liasimo.

Liasimo has by far the most user friendly chip out there. It's also the most powerful since it's capable of delivering up to 70W in temperature control mode.

 

[KTMRider]

I got a Vapor Shark rDNA 40 to let me try out Nickel builds, but I've not made the transition yet. Also been eyeing up the SX mini m-class

My first TP mod was the rDNA40 back in Nov. I still use it and it's one of my 2 favorite mods (the other is a VS DNA40). I have 6 DNA40 mods. I was curious about the SX350j so I ordered a SX Mini M last week. The chip isn't that bad but it's not any better than the DNA40 chip. If anything, a bit inferior because of the rattlesnaking in TP mode. It does have some nice features and the display is nice with auto orientation (huge plus for me). As far as the SXM, I'm not a fan of it. It's heavy and still has sharp edges that make it somewhat uncomfortable to hold and use for extended periods. I liked the chip enough that I ordered a Boxer mod that uses the SX350j and dual batteries. My SXM is for sale in the classifieds.

A Vapor Shark RDNA is a real good deal at 130.00 the DNA 40 is defiantly the best TC chip you can get
They sell NI200 coils for all the popular Sub Ohm clearo's if you want to just plug and play.
You can also build your own coils for just about any RTA RDA.
Tempered NI200 is a lot easier to work with and available all over now

Even a better deal at $110.50 with the 15% off Father's day sale (code: fathersday). (Hana One $94, DNA40 $85)

Most of the positive reviews on the clone TP chips are from people with limited or no experience with a DNA40 or SX350j.

 

[zoiDman]

Temp control isn't about how many watts you have, it's about temperature control in real time.450 degrees can be achieved with 15 watts or 200.

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I think you Pretty Much Nailed it right there Steamer.

 

[Steamer861]

Well CA I don't think there's any hope for you at all! 200 watts isn't the new part it's the software that goes with it! But you all ready knew that, Cause your a self professed Genius. or should I call you Chinese Fan Boy Don't you have a wife or Gurl friend you can argue with??

 

[KTMRider]

The snowwolf doesn't reach 200w. It pulses at 200w and that's just claimed. I'd be surprised if it even goes to the spec'd 150w. Evolv is well known for it's steady, clean power delivery, not just their glitchy screens .

 

[MoDmAnDaN]

Just to silence all you, I need it bigger and more powerful people,

Just to silence all you? Really? Are you a self proclaimed elitist? We are all do our opinions and yours is no more important than anyone elses!!

I don't argee with you IMO, about whom has the best temp control mod out there. I own 2 RDNA flasks and two SX Mini M series and I can tell you the SX350j is the current king of consistent temp control out there for now. If your coils are done properly, the SX has more than enough power to get the job done.

So you need more power...ok...so be it and that's fine. Some folks want that and that's great, but don't go acting like your the vape god and tell other folks to be silent...down right rude mate.

I will go on to say that yes Evolve was the first and everyone else came afterwards, but cloned?? I don't think so.

 

[KTMRider]

Just to silence all you? Really? Are you a self proclaimed elitist? We are all do our opinions and yours is no more important than anyone elses!!

I don't argee with you IMO, about whom has the best temp control mod out there. I own 2 RDNA flasks and two SX Mini M series and I can tell you the SX350j is the current king of consistent temp control out there for now. If your coils are done properly, the SX has more than enough power to get the job done.

So you need more power...ok...so be it and that's fine. Some folks want that and that's great, but don't go acting like your the vape god and tell other folks to be silent...down right rude mate.

I will go on to say that yes Evolve was the first and everyone else came afterwards, but cloned?? I don't think so.

I think you need to re-read what he wrote.

He meant that Evolv put out a 200w to silence the "I need it bigger and more powerful" people. You know, the guys with small peepee's that need to compensate with higher wattage devices. Or something like that.

And I would respectfully disagree about the SX350j. It's a good chip but better than the DNA40? PBusardo's charts shows the SX350j rattlesnakes in temp mode, the DNA40 does not. Otherwise, they both do a great job. I haven't noticed the rattlesnaking.

Evolv's DNA40 has been cloned. That is a fact. Maybe not by Yihi.