Looking to go into mechanicals

[HeiSINberg]

I also have the vmecha, and its been shelved basically since I got it in the mail. Its a mech with short protection, and to me that was cool at first but wont fire my sub ohm builds, I dont know why but it just doesnt, that and no atty will sit flush on that thing, least none that I have and I have a lot. Also I have a K101, magneto and a panzer. Since I started with mechs and building I still reach for my K101 to this day. Its a personal preference I guess, it just fits perfect in my hand. I do wish the locking ring wasnt so, never ending? Yeah, but good luck with what you choose!

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[1wildman]

maybe i am paranoid but i extend the telescope and use the locking ring... double fail safe mode.

 

[Completely Average]

If the OP is looking into a mech than let him learn the basics and run with it - no need for training wheels. Why make a simple system more complicated?

2 reasons.

1. It's regulated, which means that your last vape is as good as your first rather than an unregulated mech where the vape quality slowly degrades as you use it.

2. It's safer for a newbie. You don't have to worry about a mistake resulting in damage to the battery.


I understand why RBA users do not want a kick. I can also understand why newbies to mech mods might want one. Personally I think a small mech mod with a kick and an off-the-shelf topper is the ultimate portable vaping device. Vapes the same every puff you take, lasts 2 days on a single charge, and can fit a big tank that holds lots of juice.

You have your opinion, but your opinion is based on a very narrow mindset. You think the whole world can and should only use mech mods exactly like you do.

You seem to forget that the vast majority of us started on a "mech mod" called an eGo, and that "mech mods" can be used exactly like eGos.

 

[1wildman]

Average - this is the second time you have called an eGo a mech mod...it is regulated...just not regulated to the extent that a APV is. It has protection for over and under battery charge states and a fuse. A mech has only a switch.

with a regulated device you are going to be within the limits of the Kick. your first will be the same as your last but neither will be as good as it can be if you want to Vape at a higher level. My RDAs are awesome on a fresh battery 4.2 and damn good at 3.6V when i swap it out.

I really dont care how anyone uses their stuff. Just call it what it is. I find it silly that a person comes here asking for help on Mechs and they are treated like kids and told to put the training wheels on. You cant be trusted with your own battery? I prefer to teach the safety instead of relying on some circuits. I am a firearms instructor and we teach people that the best safety is the one between your ears and that mechanical safeties can fail.

 

[1wildman]

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[Lexx]

Average - this is the second time you have called an eGo a mech mod...it is regulated...just not regulated to the extent that a APV is. It has protection for over and under battery charge states and a fuse. A mech has only a switch.

Not trying to get involved in you guy's little flirt fest ;-)....

But I've repaired a few broken eGo clone batteries for friends as I'm the guy they usually ask. I fly the geek flag with pride.

Anyway none of those clones were regulated. Just a simple switching board and a LED. Oh, and a horrible battery.

Genuine eGo batts may be different but I suspect the vast majority of "eGo" users are in fact running the cheap knock offs. I know they are everywhere around here.

 

[1wildman]

Lexx - yes a very cheap switching board. See my link above. The board does prevent over-discharge as these egos will get to the point that they wont fire anymore somewhere around 3.5V. I may have mis-stated the over charging protection - that may be in the charger end of these horrible contraptions. The point is that they do contain circuitry and therefore are not mechs.

Cheers!

 

[edyle]

So I'm thinking of grabbing a mechanical mod, and so far leaning towards a telescoping mechanical mod. What are some good starter mechanical?

So what are you using right now?

Or are you another person saying "mechanical mod" because ...........

 

[Completely Average]

Average - this is the second time you have called an eGo a mech mod...it is regulated...just not regulated to the extent that a APV is. It has protection for over and under battery charge states and a fuse. A mech has only a switch.

And springs which can and are also used as fuses in mech mods. There are also safety fuses for mech mods, and adding one doesn't magically make your mech mod into some other device and no longer a mech mod. A fuse is a mechanical device, or have you forgotten that?

An eGo IS a mech mod. A flashlight is a mech mod. The ONLY difference between those devices and your "mech mod" are the ones you make up in your head, mechanically they are the same thing.

And a regulated device is an OPTION, and a safety device for those who CHOOSE to use one. For those that CHOOSE to "vape at a higher level" (aka. act snotty about it) can CHOOSE to run it unregulated to push the device outside of what is normally considered safe

If you REALLY want it called what it is, it's snotty, elitist behavior. I find it insulting that someone believes their knowledge and advice is automatically better than other peoples without any evidence of that being true. You preach your opinion as if it is gospel, when in fact it is a very isolated opinion based only on your other opinion of how things taste to you.

You claim to be a firearms instructor?

Do you teach people to not use or buy handguns with safeties installed? Do you want a total novice who is picking up a loaded handgun for the first time to have one that does NOT have a safety on it? Do you just give them a bit of advice, take them out to the gun range, and let them figure it out from there?

Because that is PRECISELY what you're doing with your advice on mech mods.




And for the record, anyone who really knew what they were doing could build a coil to operate at the same level on any given wattage. You like how your coil tastes at 4.2V? Awesome, put that knowledge to use and build a coil that tastes exactly the same at 3.6 volts and regulate it. Then you get that awesome taste beginning to end.

Just a thought.

 

[Completely Average]

Lexx - yes a very cheap switching board. See my link above. The board does prevent over-discharge as these egos will get to the point that they wont fire anymore somewhere around 3.5V. I may have mis-stated the over charging protection - that may be in the charger end of these horrible contraptions. The point is that they do contain circuitry and therefore are not mechs.

Cheers!

Now I'm going to ask you a technical question here.


Is your mech mod still a mech mod if you put a regulated battery in it?

 

[edyle]

Which batteries would you all recommend? I'm also going to start using a RTA. I'm going to start off slow, but eventually want to go sub-ohm.

Don't bother thinking about sub ohm.
If you get into building coils, maybe you will end up doing low ohm BIG coils, but deciding to go 'sub ohm' from early is like deciding how to get somewhere before knowing where you want to get to.

 

[TheVapingNinja]

why argue about semantics? the community has a set of terminology that is widely used...why be THAT GUY that constantly has to argue about the semantics?

 

[edyle]

Last time I saw somebody in the new members forum asking for recommendations for a mech mod, it wasnt a mech mod he wanted but a regulated mod; he didn't know the lingo that's all.

So for somebody with only 4 posts posting in the NEW MEMBERS FORUM, indicating that he plans to START with rebuildables sometimes, I wouldn't recommend him unknowingly dabbling with unregulated mech mods.

 

[TheVapingNinja]

Last time I saw somebody in the new members forum asking for recommendations for a mech mod, it wasnt a mech mod he wanted but a regulated mod; he didn't know the lingo that's all.

So for somebody with only 4 posts posting in the NEW MEMBERS FORUM, indicating that he plans to START with rebuildables sometimes, I wouldn't recommend him unknowingly dabbling with unregulated mech mods.

wasn't referring to your post

 

[edyle]

wasn't referring to your post

lol
and i wasnt referring to yours either!!
lol
ain't unthreaded forums fun.


So anyway, I'm thinking the OP would be interested in a first time mod like a vamo

 

[Credo]

Now I'm going to ask you a technical question here.


Is your mech mod still a mech mod if you put a regulated battery in it?

Of course it is.

If the mod has an all mechanical contact style switch then it is a mechanical mod.
Some mods are kind of hybrid...in that they might be built alot like a typical mech mod (the button itself may be mechanical) but may have a wired in atty connector, or possibly some kind of regulation/safety additions.

Two cent fuses, Kicks, Stomps, and Crowns are battery regulators. They stack with the battery and change the power supply equation...not the mod itself. If the mod has no wires or solder in there...and the button is all mechanical...then it is still a mechanical mod.

One thing that sets the Kicks/Stomps/Crowns apart from a typical APV is that they do not need 'constant power' (no display wasting power...no monitoring going on unless the mod is actually being fired)...they will work with an 'all mechanical' mod (where the battery is not touching a contact at one end or the other when the button is not pressed).

Yes, it is also possible to have a totally regulated, VW, VV, 'mechanical' hybrid mod built into one piece. In this case all the button and battery contact stuff would be 'mechanical'....it'd just have some electronics, and possibly a display between the battery and the atty connector.

 

[1wildman]

Firearms - yes i actually have no probelms with recommending guns that do not have the traditional button/lever safety mechanisms for beginners. I also dont recommend using safeties on some guns that have them such as the S&W bodyguard as it has a heavy trigger and long pull due to it being DAO. I work with lots of new shooters and to be honest we really dont teach the use of mechanical safeties. The rules are assume it is loaded, keep your finger of the trigger, and keep it pointed in a safe direction. Proper training, the NRA mantra is Knowledge, Skills, Attitude, is what prevents people from making mistakes and getting hurt.

I wouldnt use or recommend a protected battery for a mech so not sure how to answer your question.... not sure I really care.

I may be opinionated but I don't consider myself elitist. I am trying to help new members get the answers they are looking for - if the OP had asked about kicking a mech my answer would have been different.

 

[1wildman]

So I'm thinking of grabbing a mechanical mod, and so far leaning towards a telescoping mechanical mod. What are some good starter mechanical?

Obviously, i made the mistake of assuming that the OP was asking the question he really wanted answered? Sorry i didnt assume that he was completely new to vaping because he only had 4 posts and must have asked the wrong question.

I am going to ban myself from the new members area until I get things right.

 

[Steam Turbine]

why argue about semantics? the community has a set of terminology that is widely used...why be THAT GUY that constantly has to argue about the semantics?

Can't agree more.

 

[InTheShade]

Last time I saw somebody in the new members forum asking for recommendations for a mech mod, it wasnt a mech mod he wanted but a regulated mod; he didn't know the lingo that's all.

So for somebody with only 4 posts posting in the NEW MEMBERS FORUM, indicating that he plans to START with rebuildables sometimes, I wouldn't recommend him unknowingly dabbling with unregulated mech mods.

I agree to a point, but it's the new members section which does not always mean they are new to vaping.

If someone asks for a recommendation on a mech, I'm going to recommend a mech, not patronize them by saying are you sure you really want a mech and not a Vamo. Just like if someone asks for an RDA, I'm not going to tell them to try a CE5 and go from there.

I want my own flame war in this thread, I'm feeling left out...