Loongtotem v9 input
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you're sure right abotu hte vapor- Wow! I liek it alot- The 'loongtotem' spammer that came to htis sirte said they 'can't lower the shipping fees 'unfortunately' lol- No? DealExtreme ships for free liek you say- Loong can't? Says who? lol
That is pretty funny/sad. The total cost, with shipping, of the chic Health mini-cig with recharger, carts, etc., is $10 cheaper than the LoongTotem shipping cost alone -- from the same country to an identical address. Hard to believe LT "unfortunately" can't lower its obscene shipping charges.
Trog
Well, that's what's different with the loong- the wire concept is essentially the same, but hte setup is completely different which allows the paper (or cotton or whatever it is) to go and go and go. I'll rip one apart when I'm doen with it and post soem pictures- The current penstyles use that lousy material that burns out, turns to a charcoal and tastes aweful- From what I saw in Mixos' vids, there didn't seem to be any of that fiber material- I think the design of hte loong atomizer is a giant step in right direction, especially in light of fact they are disposables, but their prices need to drop so people can afford to pick up extra batteries, and soem minor improvements are probably needed- but in my opinion, they aren't far off being a product people can switch to- I'd however liek to see an invention that 'meters out' the nicotine at much higher levels than what the loong is currently producing- I think if that happened, we'd have a really good product- but so far, I'm satisfied with the loong liek it is- could be better, but it's got soem real strengths that I find satisfying- especially hte form factor- but alas, it does have soem weaknesses no doubt- but not enough in my opinion to be off putting- not nearly as off putting as Ned makes it oput to be
Well, that's what's different with the loong- the wire concept is essentially the same, but hte setup is completely different which allows the paper (or cotton or whatever it is) to go and go and go. I'll rip one apart when I'm doen with it and post soem pictures- The current penstyles use that lousy material that burns out, turns to a charcoal and tastes aweful- From what I saw in Mixos' vids, there didn't seem to be any of that fiber material- I think the design of hte loong atomizer is a giant step in right direction, especially in light of fact they are disposables, but their prices need to drop so people can afford to pick up extra batteries, and soem minor improvements are probably needed- but in my opinion, they aren't far off being a product people can switch to- I'd however liek to see an invention that 'meters out' the nicotine at much higher levels than what the loong is currently producing- I think if that happened, we'd have a really good product- but so far, I'm satisfied with the loong liek it is- could be better, but it's got soem real strengths that I find satisfying- especially hte form factor- but alas, it does have soem weaknesses no doubt- but not enough in my opinion to be off putting- not nearly as off putting as Ned makes it oput to be
whats different naz is they know it aint gonna last long and sell the product based on knowing this.. the rest is purely cosmetic.. a 901 when new is overkill.. so is any half decent atomizer..
nothing works better than direct dripping.. one other design fault is the big woolly cart idea.. half the time it dosnt work.. small ones do seem to work better thow.. but they hold less liquid and cost more..
so i am gonna assume the loong totem cart is gonna work reasonably well.. its small.. but its back to cost.. it would take more than one cart a day to feed my habit.. i need two ml of liquid per day.. then we have the battery cost..
one thing i note.. i cant really tell much difference between 24 mg and 18 mg.. and please do not think that loong totem is using the same measuring scale..
the old scale used to be based on xx mg per ml of liquid.. i think loong totem are quoting whats actually in their cart.. 8mg is whats in the cart..
a 901 cart should read 8 mg.. thats whats in the cart not the 16 mg quoted..
i recon loong totem have changed the scale.. its now whats in the cart.. not the old mg per ml..
trog
I don't htink it would, especially if you wouldn't mind refilling- I popped the foam ring off the cart, and noticed that the paper (or cotton- whaever it is) is all rolled up around hte wire, and it lookes liek it can soak up quite a bit of juice when refilling- the cartridge from what I understand (and will soon fidn out for myself perhaps) just goes and goes (Ned has been light using one of his for abotu a week now) So this would bring us back into hte realm of refilling, then just chucking hte cartridge when it gives up the ghost, plus you've got hte added benifit of form factor if htis is important to you or others(It is to me, and I'm quite liking it)
I'm on full draw count # 225 now, and it's showing no sign of slowing down- but when goign for nic amount, I'd have refilled with a few drops by now I'm sure (Note, I've bought soem PG in a big bottle for $17, and have soem PG and am goign to cook down soem cigar tobacco, so the refilling will be quite cheap for me- if my mixture eventually damages the atomizer, oh well- so what? I'll just pop another in and probably get 3 days or so, cutting way down on the price of E-smoking with my homemade smokin juice hopefuly- My test results are pendign htough- will keep you all informed how the homebrew works)
but here again, we're down to nic content- I'm sure the homebrew produces soem nic, how much htough is the million dollar question. I know that when I had tried it before, I was indeed getting the nic sweats when I over-did it smoking hte vapor, but who knows what the nic content really was- the sweats could have been the Glycrin or PG, but I don't think so because I had altered the tobacco juice mix toning it down some, and didn't get hte sweats anymore despite smoking liek a feind, so it's my guess I was gettign a fairly good whollop of nic
I've got soem Johnson Creek smokin juice in 24 mg and if I vape heavy, I will start to notice the sweats will start (get a bit dizzy too)- I haven't noticed this happening with the loong yet, and I've been smoking it very heavy running my tests- even when the cart was fresh out of hte package- I felt it a little bit, but certainly nothign liek either my homebrew or J.C juice- but again, this can be beefed up very easy by just popping hte foam out of end of cart- no muss- no fuss- just drip and pop foam back in
It's my belief, that after the initial high price fro the kit (which I should have spent another $150 for two more batteries and another charger- I made a mistake by not doing so) I think the price can be very cheap, especially if I can use the same cartridge for 3 or more days (I'm hoping they will go a week with heavy smoking- but that's probably hoping too much- I'm just talking abotu them working, the nic and vapor will be substituted with homebrew & J.C juice)
It's goign ot be an interesting and fun week for me as I brutalize this one atomizer & push it to limit- throwing everythign I can at it in the form of homebrew mixtures- I love testing liek htis lol makes my boring weeks fun again
testing new ones is fun.. i have problems with this nic hit thing u mention.. i dont get it.. strong tobbaco dosnt give me it.. i just feel bloody ratty if i dont get enough nicotine.. my fellow man is in danger.. he he
i smoke the odd strong roll up.. it dosnt do anything for me.. i pick up my e cig straight afterwards as if i hadnt just had the real one.. i smoke 24 mg stuff.. about 2 ml per day.. the other two e smokers in my family do about the same..
e smoking amazingly got rid of my nasty cough.. literally over night.. pain in the ... or not i am stuck with it.. he he
trog
i smoke the odd strong roll up.. it dosnt do anything for me.. i pick up my e cig straight afterwards as if i hadnt just had the real one.. i smoke 24 mg stuff.. about 2 ml per day.. the other two e smokers in my family do about the same..
e smoking amazingly got rid of my nasty cough.. literally over night.. pain in the ... or not i am stuck with it.. he he
trog
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