Loranns gives out spec sheets for their usp vg

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brisket

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:thumbs:just wanted to let everyone know loranns company website carries vg. its usp and they will provide msds spec sheets to prove its purity if you ask for it with your order. its 9 bucks for 16 oz. i think they also have smallerand larger sizes as well. so if ur looking for it from a trusted source ...its an option. got some myself and it produces major vapor :vapor:
 
I only saw 16 or 4oz through search results and the 16oz says $9.50 in cart.

There are cheaper prices if you want a gallon of sludge, but I suggest Perfumer's Apprentice as the best price at this size, on my list anyhow, at $8 for 16 oz.

I mean thanks for the heads up but I have little positive to say about Lorann's and don't see why people are still using it. I'd like to see them list their diacetyl percents like PA/FA. Their shipping is worse than PA too:

Standard Shipping Charges
Orders Under $15.00 (shipping+small order surcharge)
$8.50
$15.00 - $35.00 $7.50
$35.01 - $69.99 $9.50
$75.00 or greater Free Shipping*

It is UPS Ground too, which is consistently slow. Oh and does Lorann even sell PG? I'm just going to stop now.
 

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actually loranns has no diacetyl in their candy flavorings....and i was just letting everyone know that they name their vg manufacturer and provide spec sheets.........you would be surprised to learn that most of the vg comes from the same manufacturer and is repackaged by several different companies. i dont consider it "sludge". its 99.7 percent USP... i was just saying if people were going to buy loranns, their bottles of flavoring for a dram is 1.40 and they could pick up some vg while they were there. capella flavor drops also sells vg and pg. my roomies have bought some flavorings from pa....they have a perfumey taste kinda like the loranns.....however capella seems to have a more natural taste. just passing on info..... when ive ordered from lorann it only took 4 days to get here....
 

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actually loranns has no diacetyl in their candy flavorings....

How do you know?

and i was just letting everyone know that they name their vg manufacturer and provide spec sheets.........

That is nothing earthshattering. I've never heard anything other than that they won't release ingredients, including whether or not their flavors have diacetyl. Diacetyl is GRAS because none of the intended uses is inhalation, yet inhaling it can cause serious lung damage.

you would be surprised to learn that most of the vg comes from the same manufacturer and is repackaged by several different companies. i dont consider it "sludge". its 99.7 percent USP...

All VG is sludge-like in consistency and that is all I meant by that. I can't think of a single place to buy VG that isn't 99%+ USP, so I really don't see what you are so excited about. I'm not at all surprised about the sources of VG, in fact I have looked into what sort of things make up that under 1%.

i was just saying if people were going to buy loranns, their bottles of flavoring for a dram is 1.40 and they could pick up some vg while they were there.

And I was just suggesting they never use Lorann's because it is subpar flavoring from a company who doesn't care enough about customers who vape enough to test for diacetyl. Plus, most better places to buy from have PG too, and at better prices.

capella flavor drops also sells vg and pg. my roomies have bought some flavorings from pa....they have a perfumey taste kinda like the loranns.....however capella seems to have a more natural taste. just passing on info..... when ive ordered from lorann it only took 4 days to get here....

I have heard that the owner of Capella has been receptive to vapers, but never anything about testing for diacetyl, which costs about $250 per flavor. Here is another reason I am hesitant to use either company, though Capella does seem higher quality and easier to just throw in with some PG/VG/nic and have decent juice. This is from the owner of Tasty Vapor:

Mr. Tasty Vapor said:
So, we have four new flavors, the one you already know about (strawberry colada), I will tell you that one of the new flavors will be another customizable flavor where you can pick two additional flavorings.

I WILL spill the beans on one of them. We're concerned about the AC. Loranns HAS gone downhill with their cinnamon essential oil and we are currently testing a "like" cinnamon through Perfumer's Apprentice. We're testing it for flavor, separation, comparable qualities, etc.

We've had to send a few gallons back to Lorann's over their inconsistencies with flavorings. You'd think a company that's been around as long as they have would have things down to a science, BUT, we've had gallons of cinnamon come to us, sometimes weak, sometimes with things floating in it...We've had one gallon of butter rum coming to us light brown in color then the next outright brown. For an older company like Lorann's, their inconsistencies are possibly costing us customers, because the customer wants to think and believe the the problem is US no matter how much convincing we try to do. We're beginning to see similar behavior with Capella's as well. Not good, but we'll keep an eye on them, so you don't have to.

The ONE company that has been consistent has been Perfumer's Apprentice.

I have at least 50% of the flavorings made by FA and PA and not had any sort of problem with flavors "tasting perfumy". There are winners and losers for sure from any company; but most of the time I see people complaining about a certain flavor which I know works fine, I just have to assume that they are doing something wrong.

Why would I pay an extra $1.50 for VG from Lorann's then $8.50 to ship it, when I could pay less and get $6 priority shipping? You can even buy Lorann's from a bunch of places like ecigexpress or OneStopDIYShop, along with PG/VG for better prices.
 

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i know they dont have diacetyl because i called.....

517 882 0215 is loranns company phone number.....

i understand people have different opinions and i respect yours. i understand some diy people have and still do use loranns and therefore i was sharing the information i have received with others. im glad you enjoy pa not everyone does. taste is subjective. and i also am aware of the numerous sites to pick up supplies, equipment , and hardware. as for people doing something wrong....sometimes flavors dont taste the same to others depending on the mix and the hardware....and i didnt ask you to order from loranns...and as for capella ... they have gourmet flavorings with strict procedures in place...none of their flavors contain diacetyl....you really shouldnt make statements against other companies unless you trully have the facts. this wasnt a personal conflictual issue..... like i said if someone were to be purchasing flavors from the loranns site because they like their products ... i had called loranns asking about their vg and was sharing what i found out......the end
 

aprioristic

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Adding or not adding diacetyl is not the same as their products containing or not containing diacetyl.

When we see results like some of FA's products containing .004% or whatever, it is probably due to how things like acetoin and acetyl propionyl are standardly only 93%+ pure and can contain diacetyl. You really shouldn't defend a company's product's as containing diacetyl or not without knowing things like that. We'd need GCMS results, but anyhow these don't seem to be forthcoming and these small amounts of diacetyl don't bother me that much.

It's just silly to mention that Lorann has USP-grade VG. It's kind of like welcoming guests to your restaurant by telling them that their meals won't be pulled from a dumpster. Like yeah, that would be expected. I don't know why people are so afraid to mention negative things about companies. I can't think of a single thing positive I have heard or know about Lorann's that would outweigh the bad things and make me consider using them ever. When I see warning signs about a company or can show people a better value I will.
 
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