actually loranns has no diacetyl in their candy flavorings....
How do you know?
and i was just letting everyone know that they name their vg manufacturer and provide spec sheets.........
That is nothing earthshattering. I've never heard anything other than that they won't release ingredients, including whether or not their flavors have diacetyl. Diacetyl is GRAS because none of the intended uses is inhalation, yet inhaling it can cause serious lung damage.
you would be surprised to learn that most of the vg comes from the same manufacturer and is repackaged by several different companies. i dont consider it "sludge". its 99.7 percent USP...
All VG is sludge-like in consistency and that is all I meant by that. I can't think of a single place to
buy VG that isn't 99%+ USP, so I really don't see what you are so excited about. I'm not at all surprised about the sources of VG, in fact I have looked into what sort of things make up that under 1%.
i was just saying if people were going to buy loranns, their bottles of flavoring for a dram is 1.40 and they could pick up some vg while they were there.
And I was just suggesting they never use Lorann's because it is subpar flavoring from a company who doesn't care enough about customers who vape enough to test for diacetyl. Plus, most better places to buy from have PG too, and at better prices.
capella flavor drops also sells vg and pg. my roomies have bought some flavorings from pa....they have a perfumey taste kinda like the loranns.....however capella seems to have a more natural taste. just passing on info..... when ive ordered from lorann it only took 4 days to get here....
I have heard that the owner of Capella has been receptive to vapers, but never anything about testing for diacetyl, which costs about $250 per flavor. Here is another reason I am hesitant to use either company, though Capella does seem higher quality and easier to just throw in with some PG/VG/nic and have decent juice.
This is from the owner of Tasty Vapor:
Mr. Tasty Vapor said:
So, we have four new flavors, the one you already know about (strawberry colada), I will tell you that one of the new flavors will be another customizable flavor where you can pick two additional flavorings.
I WILL spill the beans on one of them. We're concerned about the AC. Loranns HAS gone downhill with their cinnamon essential oil and we are currently testing a "like" cinnamon through Perfumer's Apprentice. We're testing it for flavor, separation, comparable qualities, etc.
We've had to send a few gallons back to Lorann's over their inconsistencies with flavorings. You'd think a company that's been around as long as they have would have things down to a science, BUT, we've had gallons of cinnamon come to us, sometimes weak, sometimes with things floating in it...We've had one gallon of butter rum coming to us light brown in color then the next outright brown. For an older company like Lorann's, their inconsistencies are possibly costing us customers, because the customer wants to think and believe the the problem is US no matter how much convincing we try to do. We're beginning to see similar behavior with Capella's as well. Not good, but we'll keep an eye on them, so you don't have to.
The ONE company that has been consistent has been Perfumer's Apprentice.
I have at least 50% of the flavorings made by FA and PA and not had any sort of problem with flavors "tasting perfumy". There are winners and losers for sure from any company; but most of the time I see people complaining about a certain flavor which I know works fine, I just have to assume that they are doing something wrong.
Why would I pay an extra $1.50 for VG from Lorann's then $8.50 to ship it, when I could pay less and get $6 priority shipping? You can even buy Lorann's from a bunch of places like ecigexpress or OneStopDIYShop, along with PG/VG for better prices.