Losing my will to vape :(

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I think to lol part of the problem like with my even bigger addiction whixh is diesel performance I could never find products that I liked to I designed and built my own and thats how my company was born

But now I want to do the same with these but I dont have very many resources because I am a dang truck driver until October lol
 

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Lots of things we ingest are beneficial in small amounts and poisonous if consumed in concentration. Water is beneficial but you can die if you drink too much at once. There is a long list of vitamins and minerals which benefit us but will kill us if taken in concentration. Nicotine has a very high toxicity (6.5–13 mg/kg orally) and will kill you if you get too much. If you rub a pure concentrate of nicotine on your skin it will definitely give you some cardiac event. There is a reason it was used as an insecticide. It is very definitely a poison.
I 2nd that!!
 

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Maybe your joy comes from telling everybody what you bought. Perhaps you could create another lengthy list containing everything you left off last time and tell us you bought that? That might make you feel better and it'd be cheaper.
Dont be rude!

I find pleasure in finding helpful info and if you actually read the post its not to flaunt a huge list in front of everyone its to ask advice on all of these products and peoples opinions

I buy alot at once because unlike you I cant jusy go to a b&m and look at them so I am mostly buying the stuff on a whim and I like to see the different designs to help inspire my own design

There's a big difference no bragging intended
 

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Maybe your joy comes from telling everybody what you bought. Perhaps you could create another lengthy list containing everything you left off last time and tell us you bought that? That might make you feel better and it'd be cheaper.

LOL. 'Makin' {MODERATED} up' a highly regarded internet tradition.
 
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Maybe thats part of my problem I cant taste these juices everyone is raving about it just sucks

But when I actually do taste something my eyes lite up and its awesome but like this diy strawberry Lemonade I made the first like 3 hits where amazing but the rest of the 15ml bottle just sucks lol its frustrating how can I drip some 3 hits are good but on the 4th and the rest of the bottle aren't?

You might just have vaper's tongue (aka vaping fatigue). Most people go through periods where what used to taste great just tastes like mud. It goes away in a bit.
There's lots of "recipes" for making it go away, but the only ones that really work are:
a) Time.
b) Tablespoon of wasabi (reconstituted). You can substitute a shot-glass of chinese mustard if you can't get wasabi.
 

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Lots of things we ingest are beneficial in small amounts and poisonous if consumed in concentration. Water is beneficial but you can die if you drink too much at once. There is a long list of vitamins and minerals which benefit us but will kill us if taken in concentration. Nicotine has a very high toxicity (6.5–13 mg/kg orally) and will kill you if you get too much. If you rub a pure concentrate of nicotine on your skin it will definitely give you some cardiac event. There is a reason it was used as an insecticide. It is very definitely a poison.
I don't disagree with you that it can be poisonous. I just think calling it poison implies a lack of any beneficial uses, and is similar to calling gold a poison. It's technically true in both cases, but ignores the valuation the word implies in common usage.
 

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Maybe your joy comes from telling everybody what you bought. Perhaps you could create another lengthy list containing everything you left off last time and tell us you bought that? That might make you feel better and it'd be cheaper.

That was unkind.

And what's wrong with being excited about the new stuff you've bought, and trying to share that excitement?
I know it might not play well for those struggling just to buy e-liquid, but it's not like it's a rarity here.

Hang in there, Valooper. You'll most likely be back in the saddle in a couple of days.

But if not, can I have your vaping stuff? ;-)
 

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That was unkind.

And what's wrong with being excited about the new stuff you've bought, and trying to share that excitement?
I know it might not play well for those struggling just to buy e-liquid, but it's not like it's a rarity here.

Hang in there, Valooper. You'll most likely be back in the saddle in a couple of days.

But if not, can I have your vaping stuff? ;-)
I sure hope so lol :)

And sure I will just truck her on down to ya in that event lol
 

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I don't disagree with you that it can be poisonous. I just think calling it poison implies a lack of any beneficial uses, and is similar to calling gold a poison. It's technically true in both cases, but ignores the valuation the word implies in common usage.

How is that comparison anywhere close to similar? Who ingests gold? Also, because of the properties of gold, you actually could eat 100x more gold than nicotine AND NOT DIE! You can rub pure gold on your skin and be fine. Try that with pure nicotine, it won't go well.

Look, I'll admit there are a few, limited, medically beneficial uses for nicotine if you admit that for every benefit you can list there are a number of very serious health issues (including, you know, dieing) associated with nicotine. 'Nicotine Poisoning' has its own wiki page FFS.

I'll stand by what valooper said earlier, nicotine is very definitely a poison. Whether you think so or not won't change that reality. ECF loves to propagate this idea that vaping and nicotine are this holy grail of super awesome healthy-ness. It's not. Vaping IS NOT healthy. Nicotine IS a poison. Sorry to disrupt the echo chamber.

Apologies to Valooper for the threadjack.
 

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How is that comparison anywhere close to similar? Who ingests gold? Also, because of the properties of gold, you actually could eat 100x more gold than nicotine AND NOT DIE! You can rub pure gold on your skin and be fine. Try that with pure nicotine, it won't go well.

Look, I'll admit there are a few, limited, medically beneficial uses for nicotine if you admit that for every benefit you can list there are a number of very serious health issues (including, you know, dieing) associated with nicotine. 'Nicotine Poisoning' has its own wiki page FFS.

I'll stand by what valooper said earlier, nicotine is very definitely a poison. Whether you think so or not won't change that reality. ECF loves to propagate this idea that vaping and nicotine are this holy grail of super awesome healthy-ness. It's not. Vaping IS NOT healthy. Nicotine IS a poison. Sorry to disrupt the echo chamber.

Apologies to Valooper for the threadjack.
Hey hey no worries I think its a valid poibt and nerds to be discussed in detail more often

The only safe vape in no vape at all!!
 

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Perhaps you should do some reviews on the items you have purchased.
Oh I know! I really want to do some and I said I was going to but I have been running 14 plus hrs a day and sleeping the rest lol

I could do reviews while driving but no thats not going to happen lol

I just bought a camera the other day to do close ups :D
 

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valooper: hows your juice? do you have what youd consider extremely delicious juice? thats always what keeps me puffing even if i dont feel the craving for nic.

i dabble in DIY but im pretty terrible at it for the most part. its my NLV juice that keeps me glued to my PV. and i love every second of it.

I understand. Throat hit is an actual physical sensation that is created when nicotine hits back of your mouth/top of your airway. It's similar, but not the same, as the capsaicin response (ie the heat from spicy peppers). For many people, myself included, it is one of the primary components of a "good" vape. Then, some people hate it, and hated it when they were smoking too. It's not really painful, but sort of pain like.

i agree. for me, TH was my #1 necessity to quit cigarettes. i needed TH more than i needed good flavor, or vapor production. after all, i was used to a terrible flavor and a small waff of smoke. funny thing is, i struggled with TH even with cigarettes. especially after they introduced the "fire safe cigarette", which is thicker paper in a series of bands down the length of the cigarette. but even before that, id buy extra packs and open them so i could allow them to dry out, burn faster, and deliver a better TH. but of course i had no idea that the concept of TH was even a thing when i smoked. i just called it harshness.
 

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valooper: hows your juice? do you have what youd consider extremely delicious juice? thats always what keeps me puffing even if i dont feel the craving for nic.

i dabble in DIY but im pretty terrible at it for the most part. its my NLV juice that keeps me glued to my PV. and i love every second of it.



i agree. for me, TH was my #1 necessity to quit cigarettes. i needed TH more than i needed good flavor, or vapor production. after all, i was used to a terrible flavor and a small waff of smoke. funny thing is, i struggled with TH even with cigarettes. especially after they introduced the "fire safe cigarette", which is thicker paper in a series of bands down the length of the cigarette. but even before that, id buy extra packs and open them so i could allow them to dry out, burn faster, and deliver a better TH. but of course i had no idea that the concept of TH was even a thing when i smoked. i just called it harshness.

Honestly I wouldn't say that I have an extremely taste juices :( even my suicide bunnies is not the greatest my diy stuff is alright

I wish someone who could tell me if I get throat hit lol cause I don't think I do
 
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