Lovin' this M401

[cliff5550]

While waiting on our newly ordered Phoenix and Dragon kits from TrueSmoker I decided to pick up a used Dragon 401 kit on the forum classifieds. Absolutely love it!
For the past four months my wife and I have been with the RN4081 SmokeSticks and really like them. No major problems, ever. But, after seeing the Dragon and the new Phoenix, and ready such good things about the M401s, we pre-ordered our kits. Since I received my classifieds buy three days ago I have been using only the Dragon and I have not had any of the minor problems I've read here and there.
The battery life is very good; the carts are easy to refill and I've not had one cart leak; the atomizers (love that wide, high bridge) put out good vapor and a nice throat hit; get nicer taste of flavored juices; and of course the look is great. Oddly, my wife is not too sure. She says she doesn't get the same hit that she does from the RN4081. She inhales differently than I do. She does a deep inhale and gets more what she terms a "lung hit", where I draw, hold, and the deep breath for a nice throat hit.
But, she's decided to wait until she gets her Phoenix kit to give it a good, long try. So far she's only tried my Dragon a few times.
Me? I'm a dedicated M401 fan. I even ordered another kit from the classified so when everything gets here I'll have 7 batteries, 6 atomizers, 17 carts, 3 chargers, and 2 cases. Oh, I am sooo there!

 

[hecknaw]

yep 401's are good!! they have kept off ciggy's fir 7 months now. when i started buying supplys atty''s and batts. i bought a bunch and made quite an investment(after these months i am now in the black) i have also found out if you want to upgrade to a mod. unit later it's harder to find mod's that will accept a 401 atomizer.i have only found 1 that would build one. that being thagbuilt.com and very few offer an adpter for this atomizer. the only real reason i can think of that 401's are not more popular are they have lousy cart's,of which i have learned to deal with

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

they have lousy cart's

Not any more (check this thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/intellicig/13660-ecopure-liquid-bulk-6.html#post726476 )

 

[nyabzns]

Not any more (check this thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/intellicig/13660-ecopure-liquid-bulk-6.html#post726476 )

Ok, I have to ask. What is so special about the evolution carts ?

 

[nyabzns]

............................................................... I'm a dedicated M401 fan. I even ordered another kit from the classified so when everything gets here I'll have 7 batteries, 6 atomizers, 17 carts, 3 chargers, and 2 cases. Oh, I am sooo there!

My M401 Dragon seems to work better as I use it.

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

The new ones have a bigger capacity & very good airflow.

I'll take some pics tomorrow if I remember

 

[Luv2CUSmile]

Sludge, do the Evo ones fit the standard mouthpieces also or is it only what is available through Evo supplier?
I actually don't have a complaint about the cartrdige volume- It satisfies me and then some- I always have another cart already filled and ready so it's not like I am refilling, topping off, or having to "fiddle" many times a day... If I would rather "top off/refill" instead of grab a new cart it is my choice not because I have to... and then once or twice a week, I go through refilling plenty of carts, etc to set me up for a few days... - If I want to vape a particular flavor off the cuff that I don't have in a cart... I just drip it a bit... (just started w/ the drip on occassion and I don't feel it is BETTER than carts but a definite quick fix vape for convenience)...
At any rate... another method that is seeming to work for many & I will try on one cart when I set myself up again... the "ADP" method using the pen spring and a fluff of polyfill at the top... seems to be working great for many w/o issues...
get us a pic of the EVO carts- Thx!

 

[bg458]

Quick fix my friend. Grap two dead 401 batteries take the connectors out and attach them back to back and presto you now have an adpter that will fit any 510 mod.

i have also found out if you want to upgrade to a mod. unit later it's harder to find mod's that will accept a 401 atomizer.i have only found 1 that would build one. that being thagbuilt.com and very few offer an adpter for this atomizer.

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

Sludge, do the Evo ones fit the standard mouthpieces also

Yep, a 401 is a 401, is a 401...........

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

L - R:

Old (the first type I encountered) EVO cart
Newer (also found on Pilots)
The new EVO cart (similar to what I've been told that the originals were like)

Sorry they're a little blurry, I'm terrible at close-ups


Looking at the pics they don't look that different, but trust me, there is a marked increase in size from the last version & a slight enlargement from the first. The outer cart is the same size throughout.

 

[Houdini]

Quick fix my friend. Grap two dead 401 batteries take the connectors out and attach them back to back and presto you now have an adpter that will fit any 510 mod.

That will work or one 401 battery and one 510 atty. Like this.

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

I can't see why you'd want to do that. 510 batteries aren't a patch on 401s

 

[Luv2CUSmile]

Thx Sludge! I have seen one of the new Evo carts somewhere and I can't recall now where it was...
I have the mid cart (the current regular)- I see the size difference- so good enough pics for that- LOL
I see that in the first and last carts there seemed to be a concept in the design that left a space between the cart and mouthpiece end... I wonder why... Is that to try and keep the cart pushed up next to the filler? I would think more apt to burn the filler than wick juice better... But you are saying no... The design of the Evo one is almost exactly like the ones w/ my husband's Sidesho w/o the little piece on the bottom to hold it up in the cart (inside the mouthpiece on the Sidesho the ridges are built in there to keep the cart from being pushed all the way in- so same concept)... His is always getting a bit of filler burn after awhile... when I fill his I have to make sure the filler is down in the cart w/ like a mm to the end so it is not exactly at the edge- or it will burn...Oh! & his cart is white w/ the flat edge...- Thx for showing these-

 

[Valkerie]

... I see that in the first and last carts there seemed to be a concept in the design that left a space between the cart and mouthpiece end... I wonder why...

Air flow, so that suction can trigger your battery.

 

[Houdini]

I can't see why you'd want to do that. 510 batteries aren't a patch on 401s

Actually, I did it for this. I had a 510/801 adapter so I figured if I made a 401/510 adapter I could use it this way or on a 510 battery if I had to. Plus, I didn't have any spare 801 atty's to tear up.

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

That's far too complicated for me

 

[moog]

I remember having some similar to the new large ones when I first got my evo....but I don't think they held as much juice as the first ones you bought Sludge.... I still think I might have some around somewhere....

 

[Valkerie]

Actually, I did it for this. I had a 510/801 adapter so I figured if I made a 401/510 adapter I could use it this way or on a 510 battery if I had to. Plus, I didn't have any spare 801 atty's to tear up.

And all you had to do was to solder at a few points? No wires?

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

I remember having some similar to the new large ones when I first got my evo....but I don't think they held as much juice as the first ones you bought Sludge.... I still think I might have some around somewhere....

Yeah, I believe they were the original design, but as you say, they were smaller than the one with the round end piece or the new version. (AFAIK)

 

[mickeyxxx]

I just received the new ones this morning and been vaping on one more or less

constantly for 2 hours and still going strong.

Not sure but I think its a different filler too......it seems to wick a lot better.

Early days but first impressions are very good.

I also wish someone would do adapters for the Evo/401.