I was told by a vapor store owner that there are no nicotine distillers in the US and that "Made in the USA" juices are, at best, only mixed in the USA. A little troublesome as most juicers do have the $ to analyze nicotine purity properly. Anyone else knowledgable on this topic?
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From what I understand, correct me if I'm wrong someone, there are places in the US that do re-sell nic to vendors. Those places, such as Wizard Labs, may or may not be 'making' their own nic. But if they aren't, I'm pretty sure they are testing the nic before selling it to the vendors that then use it to mix their own flavors.
There are vendors that extract their own flavors, Ahlusion, HHV and others do this. They may or may not buy their nic from US distributors but any vendor would be very smart to test their nic as it comes in to make sure it is the strength they ordered.
Yes there are vendors that probably are just mixing premade flavors. That is an art also. Just like not everyone is good at cooking, not everyone has the talent for mixing.
There are vendors that extract their own flavors, Ahlusion, HHV and others do this. They may or may not buy their nic from US distributors but any vendor would be very smart to test their nic as it comes in to make sure it is the strength they ordered.
Yes there are vendors that probably are just mixing premade flavors. That is an art also. Just like not everyone is good at cooking, not everyone has the talent for mixing.
I wanted to add, even we can get nicotine test kits if we are not confident in our vendors to have already tested the nic.
anyone that does DIY should be testing their own.
anyone that does DIY should be testing their own.
The owner of juice E-Fusion, whose name is Cutty, told me that he distills his own nic from cauliflower leaves. I thought he was kidding but went online and discovered that cauliflower leaves are, indeed, fairly high in nicotine. I'm not too crazy about JEF juices, but he has a few I like.
Thank you Dave and Robino for the info. Nice to know there is a QC point in the supply chain. REeputable juice makers should buy from reputable sources. Califlower nic extraction surprised me, interesting. I'll check out prices on nic test kits as I am interested in DIY n the future.
That vapor store owner is right. Nic comes from China, India, and Belgium. All is good.
I'm calling BS on cauliflower nicotine... Below is from http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/junk/nicotine.html
"The nicotine contents of vegetables
After spending an extraordinarily long time figuring out exactly how much nicotine eggplants contained, I found a proper source and made this page to make Google more helpful in the future. The data is taken from the New England Journal of Medicine vol 329 p437, available here.
Vegetable Nicotine in ng/g g per 1µg nicotine
Cauliflower 16.8 59.5
Eggplant (Aubergine) 100.0 10
Potatoes 7.1 140
Green tomatoes 42.8 23.4
Ripe tomatoes 4.3 233.0
Pureed tomatoes 52.0 19.2
1µg of nicotine is the equivalent of sitting in a vaguely smoke filled room for three hours. A cigarette contains about 7mg of nicotine, of which 1mg is absorbed. In other words, 100g of eggplant contains 0.01mg of nicotine, and 10kg of eggplant is equivalent to one cigarette. However, absorbtion rates from ingestion are low and nicotine is quickly metabolised, so the effect isn't nearly the same."
"The nicotine contents of vegetables
After spending an extraordinarily long time figuring out exactly how much nicotine eggplants contained, I found a proper source and made this page to make Google more helpful in the future. The data is taken from the New England Journal of Medicine vol 329 p437, available here.
Vegetable Nicotine in ng/g g per 1µg nicotine
Cauliflower 16.8 59.5
Eggplant (Aubergine) 100.0 10
Potatoes 7.1 140
Green tomatoes 42.8 23.4
Ripe tomatoes 4.3 233.0
Pureed tomatoes 52.0 19.2
1µg of nicotine is the equivalent of sitting in a vaguely smoke filled room for three hours. A cigarette contains about 7mg of nicotine, of which 1mg is absorbed. In other words, 100g of eggplant contains 0.01mg of nicotine, and 10kg of eggplant is equivalent to one cigarette. However, absorbtion rates from ingestion are low and nicotine is quickly metabolised, so the effect isn't nearly the same."
What about Totally Wicked who says their nic for Platinum and Titanium Ice comes from Ireland? Or, maybe the "Irish" nic isn't imported into USA. Of course there is also, RTS USA nic, right?
That's a new one on me from Totally Wicked. I did try the Platinum once and it was good, but very expensive. As for RTS, believe what you read, because what I've read, I do not.
Johnson's Creek claims to use "USA Sourced" ingredients to make their juice. However, their juice is what's in blu and blu is made in China . I doubt that they would import from the USA, I could be wrong.
Spot on with Platinum and Titanium ice. PM me on what you have read that makes you disbelieve. I have a real need for a good disbelief.
Blu hardware is made in China. Where they fill their cartomizers is unknown by me, but could be done at Johnson Creek facilities.
I don't disbelieve that the TW nic comes from Ireland. Let me rephrase that sir. First time I ever heard that nicotine is extracted in Ireland
I don't disbelieve that the TW nic comes from Ireland. Let me rephrase that sir. First time I ever heard that nicotine is extracted in Ireland
Right. I was asking about your other disbelief.
Just read all the threads, and you can decide for yourself. I leave it at that.
Basically, I don't have to wonder if e-liquid sellers are getting nic from USA because it all comes from China, India, etc?
A few months ago, I made a strong effort to discover any and all USA based nic extraction facilities .. other than finding a couple that were in the pesticide business, I found absolutely none ..
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