Magma rba advice

[theMadcow]

Greetings and Salutations fellow vapers,

I recently puurchased a Magma rba from Paradigm and even though my build on it works great, I know it can be better. So my question is...What advice for coils and wicking could you toss my way to help me get a killer coil and a gnarly wick wrap. Currently I have a dual micro vertical coils at 4/5 wraps and wrapped around 1/16th of an inch drill bit.

Thanks in advanced for all of your help.

-Madcow

 

[Cory Cooper]

Greetings and Salutations fellow vapers,

I recently puurchased a Magma rba from Paradigm and even though my build on it works great, I know it can be better. So my question is...What advice for coils and wicking could you toss my way to help me get a killer coil and a gnarly wick wrap. Currently I have a dual micro vertical coils at 4/5 wraps and wrapped around 1/16th of an inch drill bit.

Thanks in advanced for all of your help.

-Madcow

Why vertical? Wouldn't you get better air flow of your coils were horizontal since the way the magma is set up? I don't have one yet mine should be here tomorrow, also what gauge wire are you using and what ohm coils? Just curious

 

[jd1978]

Greetings and Salutations fellow vapers,

I recently puurchased a Magma rba from Paradigm and even though my build on it works great, I know it can be better. So my question is...What advice for coils and wicking could you toss my way to help me get a killer coil and a gnarly wick wrap. Currently I have a dual micro vertical coils at 4/5 wraps and wrapped around 1/16th of an inch drill bit.

Thanks in advanced for all of your help.

-Madcow

I am a fan of verticle coils. This type setup is more for attys that have the air holes coming through the bottom such as kayfun and smoktech scar. If you have air holes on the side, your better off with regular coils IMO. Im not just pulling this out of my rear, as I have a multitude of rebuildables, such as kfl plus v2, trident, scar, Helios, IGO-F, IGO-L, IGO-W, aqua, nimbus, forge, etc. I use verticles only on the attys with air holes coming thru the bottom of the deck.

 

[theMadcow]

28 guage kanthal at .47 ohm, and vertical is just what I normally build in my castle rba. I am used to building them so when it came to building the magma I went with what i knew the best.

 

[theMadcow]

Why vertical? Wouldn't you get better air flow of your coils were horizontal since the way the magma is set up? I don't have one yet mine should be here tomorrow, also what gauge wire are you using and what ohm coils? Just curious

28 guage kanthal at .47 ohm, and vertical is just what I normally build in my castle rba. I am used to building them so when it came to building the magma I went with what i knew the best.

 

[theMadcow]

I am a fan of verticle coils. This type setup is more for attys that have the air holes coming through the bottom such as kayfun and smoktech scar. If you have air holes on the side, your better off with regular coils IMO. Im not just pulling this out of my rear, as I have a multitude of rebuildables, such as kfl plus v2, trident, scar, Helios, IGO-F, IGO-L, IGO-W, aqua, nimbus, forge, etc. I use verticles only on the attys with air holes coming thru the bottom of the deck.

Thanks, i am going for the horizontal next go round of builds.

 

[Cory Cooper]

I am a fan of verticle coils. This type setup is more for attys that have the air holes coming through the bottom such as kayfun and smoktech scar. If you have air holes on the side, your better off with regular coils IMO. Im not just pulling this out of my rear, as I have a multitude of rebuildables, such as kfl plus v2, trident, scar, Helios, IGO-F, IGO-L, IGO-W, aqua, nimbus, forge, etc. I use verticles only on the attys with air holes coming thru the bottom of the deck.

I guess I just don't understand because I've never tried the kayfun or magma yet with the air holes coming from the bottom ill try a few to try to see what the hype is about, in my mind having the air hole direct to the coil would be ideal wouldn't wick and .... get I'm the way or if you moved it over a bit you'd be only getting partial coil but no professional.

 

[Cory Cooper]

Thanks, i am going for the horizontal next go round of builds.

Not sure if you have tried this, probably since you sound pretty familiar with coil building but I like to twist my wire with a drill lowers your resistance and you have more surface area on the wick plus juice falls into the micro valleys of the twisted wire, it takes more wire of course but IMO those have been the best coils I've built

 

[Jasen Bartlett]

Thank you for the help! Awesome

 

[jd1978]

I guess I just don't understand because I've never tried the kayfun or magma yet with the air holes coming from the bottom ill try a few to try to see what the hype is about, in my mind having the air hole direct to the coil would be ideal wouldn't wick and .... get I'm the way or if you moved it over a bit you'd be only getting partial coil but no professional.

The idea with the verticles is using your coil like a chimney. Your pulling air through the center of the coil. I build mine wrapping a long piece of wick (in my case cotton) starting from the deck, around the outside of the coil until I get to the top and then wrap it back down to sort of form a second wick layer. I do not put wick through the coils, as I am depending on the center for air flow. This only works well with attys that have a bottom flow air hole, not a side air hole. I'll attach a few pictures. One vertical and a couple horizontal for attys with side air holes.

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[Cory Cooper]

The idea with the verticles is using your coil like a chimney. Your pulling air through the center of the coil. I build mine wrapping a long piece of wick (in my case cotton) starting from the deck, around the outside of the coil until I get to the top and then wrap it back down to sort of form a second wick layer. I do not put wick through the coils, as I am depending on the center for air flow. This only works well with attys that have a bottom flow air hole, not a side air hole. I'll attach a few pictures. One vertical and a couple horizontal for attys with side air holes.

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Totally makes sense now I was still imagining pulling wick through the coil, and all I use is cotton I can deffantly see what your talking about using the coil like a chimney do you leave the top open when wrapping the wick?

 

[iamAuz]

i have done a few vertical coils on my kayfun its nice but i swear the flavor isnt a good as a horizontal coil, in my opinion. i blow a bigger cloud but i want flavor more then a cloud. personally in my magma i have only used horizontal coils. i dont go super sub ohm either, like 1.0ohm is totally low enough i just like it around there. i am going to mess around more with my magma try some dual builds out and different coil positions, i kinda like the coil to sit about 3mm above the airhole. maybe a little less depending on how it is performing. everyone like different things though so just keep experimenting!

 

[Cory Cooper]

That's badass btw def gonna try this set up when I get my magma in

 

[Cory Cooper]

i have done a few vertical coils on my kayfun its nice but i swear the flavor isnt a good as a horizontal coil, in my opinion. i blow a bigger cloud but i want flavor more then a cloud. personally in my magma i have only used horizontal coils. i dont go super sub ohm either, like 1.0ohm is totally low enough i just like it around there. i am going to mess around more with my magma try some dual builds out and different coil positions, i kinda like the coil to sit about 3mm above the airhole. maybe a little less depending on how it is performing. everyone like different things though so just keep experimenting!

For sure flavor is what I go for if I'm just chillin and vaping ill use about .8 .9 twisted 30g with wick through center of coil and the flavor is amazing, but I like to play around and chase clouds so ill build duals at .25 to .4 just to fog up my living room I'm really excited for my magma to come in and try a few different builds I just picked up a little bit of 26g from my local shop to see if I like it enough to buy a spool of it hoping tomorrow it'll be here

 

[jd1978]

Not sure if you have tried this, probably since you sound pretty familiar with coil building but I like to twist my wire with a drill lowers your resistance and you have more surface area on the wick plus juice falls into the micro valleys of the twisted wire, it takes more wire of course but IMO those have been the best coils I've built

I've seen twisted coils but have never done it. I'm going to make one now. How much does it change the resistance? By half, if twisting same gauge wire? I've seen different sized wires twisted together too, I've wondered how well it works.

 

[Cory Cooper]

I've seen twisted coils but have never done it. I'm going to make one now. How much does it change the resistance? By half, if twisting same gauge wire? I've seen different sized wires twisted together too, I've wondered how well it works.

I think it's really close to half, but the coils are amazing just make sure you don't have any kinks and that you keep slack out of the wire when twisting, I've tried triple twisting and quad which kinda just makes a freakin cable that is hard to work with, and you burn through a hell of alot of wire, but the twisted has been my favorite I'm always looking for new and crazy coil builds let me know what you think of them

 

[jd1978]

I think it's really close to half, but the coils are amazing just make sure you don't have any kinks and that you keep slack out of the wire when twisting, I've tried triple twisting and quad which kinda just makes a freakin cable that is hard to work with, and you burn through a hell of alot of wire, but the twisted has been my favorite I'm always looking for new and crazy coil builds let me know what you think of them

I'm gonna try twisting 32 g kanthal together with 32 g nichrome, just to see what happens. I've also got some 28 g. I'm gonna do some experimenting, lol.

 

[Cory Cooper]

Look up that tiger twist coil I haven't had that much different wire so I couldn't do it, or maybe they used ribbon also idk. Sounds like your gonna have fun tonight let me know what you come up with