Magnetic Button Question

[aruga]

Hello all.

Ever since I started using the "Kick" in my GG-TS the button has been a pain. I even had Bruce send me a new one and same problem remains. SO I have been doing research on trying the magnetic button.
I saw some info on this forum and also this you tube link
GG TS Magnetic Switch installation - YouTube

My question is this video was done with one of the old brass buttons. Can it be done with the new silver buttons?
If so could someone pint me in the right direction as far as the where to get the correct one's and the dimensions. And an instruction guide would be great.
My confusion is I am not sure if all this info is just for the old brass buttons, or will work for the new silver buttons.

As always thank to all who read and post. You guys have helped me so much before. If I can get this accomplished my GG will be top notch again.
Thanks
Aruga

 

[aruga]

Quick update.

I have already purchased some of the COV magnetic button for spacer use, could they work for the button if it is possible for the new silver button?

 

[martinc]

They are like doughnuts,the firing pin has to go through the magnets;and brass is not magnetic but SS is,so no it wont work with SS buttons.

 

[martinc]

Just to be clear the way they work is 3 magnetts,1 field facing the other 2 so its repulsed making the mechanism return

 

[aruga]

Well explained. I have a wanted add up now for a brass button. Do the older types of buttons for the GGTB work with the GGTS

Thanks again for your post.

 

[aruga]

On the COV website
Will this buttn work in the GG-TB section
GGTB - Button
or the new one in the GG-TS section
GGTS - Flat Top Button Replacement
Or do I have to just find an older style button. I hate to buy the wrong thing over and over.
Thanks again for the help

 

[Serpent67]

All GGTB buttons have a shorter housing and post and will not work in a GGTS without modifying them.

The repro flat button you posted is a new production run and duplicate of the old flat buttons from the GG days gone by. It will work in all GGTS versions and Stealths. That's the one you need.

 

[aruga]

LAst question and im set.

Is this still the correct magnets to use.
Gaussboys Super Magnets :: Rings :: 6mm x 3.5mm x 2mm N38 Nickel Plated Neodymium Magnet - Ring

specs 6mm dia. x 3.5mm inner dia. x 2mm thick ?

 

[AnilomNor]

Read here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/276280-brass-buttons-almost-ready-17.html

 

[Para]

Check your PM.....

What I don't understand is your misfires. Both the adjustable throw flat top and the SS model are really well designed and deliver solid hits. Changing to magnets is great for a different feel and it eliminates the spring....but the performance won't be any better than what Imeo created in the stock models.

I was part of the beta testing on the Kick so I'm pretty familiar with it's personality. First thing I would check is the negative contact on the tube by making SURE you are getting solid contact. Rubbing the inside of the top tube with steel wool will remove any residue that could interfere with continuity.

Hope that helps.

 

[silentt]

I get misfires using my 2012 steel button but not my brass buttons. It's confusing since its only while using the kick. Everything checked out okay and its all clean.

 

[Poppa D]

I don't have one but it sounds like dirty contact points on the kick.
Good luck with your project.

 

[fright88]

Just my .02 on buttons and kick. I have tried a bunch of different buttons and here are my results.
2011 Style button works with 2 magnets with kick I prefer spring seems to get better connection. This button worked well for a while but I found I had to polish the post contact point a couple times a week as I was getting black spots on it and they were causing bad connection.
2012 Style button doesn't work with any magnets I have. Kinda the same as the 2011 for performance though. It works well as long as I clean the contact point a couple times a week as it gets black spots on the contact.
All Brass old style round head adjustable throw button. Works very well still have to clean but only around once a week for some reason it doesn't get the same kind of black spots it does tarnish but I clean it once a week and it works well
New style Flat top Brass adjustable throw. Same as old brass adjustable throw no black scorch marks but does tarnish as all brass does with time so a weekly cleaning keeps it working top notch.

With all of my buttons Once I get below about 3.75v on a battery performance drops with the kick unless I kinda do a semi sideways press or press very firmly. Once I get to about 3.6v the kick won't work at all except in my alum ggts and with that one it will go down to about 3.5v. I've also found the kick works better with a brass telescope over ss tele.

I have often wondered about having a rounded contact on the button or a flat contact on the battery post. I am not an electrical expert but my expierence with cars sometimes the difference between a car that starts and won't is just slightly tightening the battery. So to me it stands to reason more contact patch would be better electricity flow but I am to chicken to modify my precious GG stuff lol.

 

[Ariel_MX]

The actual design is like this:

|--| o

Where:

| is the botton top head
-- is the botton post
| is the button contact with the axis

o is the axis post (where battery negative pole makes contact)


Something like this could work better?

|--c o

Where:

| is the botton top head
-- is the botton post
c would be the botton contact point (it will make contact around the axis post)

o is the axis post (where battery negative pole makes contact)

 

[MrKrinkle]

The actual design is like this:

|--| o

Where:

| is the botton top head
-- is the botton post
| is the button contact with the axis

o is the axis post (where battery negative pole makes contact)


Something like this could work better?

|--c o

Where:

| is the botton top head
-- is the botton post
c would be the botton contact point (it will make contact around the axis post)

o is the axis post (where battery negative pole makes contact)

Looks like algebra, I dont like algebra...

 

[Para]

The actual design is like this:

|--| o

Where:

| is the botton top head
-- is the botton post
| is the button contact with the axis

o is the axis post (where battery negative pole makes contact)


Something like this could work better?

|--c o

Where:

| is the botton top head
-- is the botton post
c would be the botton contact point (it will make contact around the axis post)

o is the axis post (where battery negative pole makes contact)

What happens when the button turns and the c doesn't line up with the o? It turns and the c is 90 degrees from the o? (If I read it right)

 

[Ariel_MX]

What happens when the button turns and the c doesn't line up with the o? It turns and the c is 90 degrees from the o? (If I read it right)

Good point I didn't think about that

Maybe a square button pin to prevent the rotation of it?

 

[rwechsler]

They are like doughnuts,the firing pin has to go through the magnets;and brass is not magnetic but SS is,so no it wont work with SS buttons.

No, they will work with the SS buttons, there just isn't enough room for 3 of them like there is with the old GGTS and GGTB brass buttons. The new SS ones will fit 2, but i'm not sure about the new style brass buttons. Will test it when I get home

 

[CaptSteve]

Rick are you sure the 6mm one's fit? I think they may not have enough clearance

 

[Para]

No, they will work with the SS buttons, there just isn't enough room for 3 of them like there is with the old GGTS and GGTB brass buttons. The new SS ones will fit 2, but i'm not sure about the new style brass buttons. Will test it when I get home

3 magnets work just fine with the new flat tops.