Magnetic vs Spring Loaded Swith

[NOMINDTR]

Hello,

I was seeing two different kind of switches in specifications. What are magnetic, and spring loaded switches? I assume they are two different mechanism thru which the switching action works. Is that right? What are the pros. and cons of these switches?

Thanks

 

[Mrez]

I have one of each, both clones, the Stingray X from hcigar and an Infinite Nemesis (though I suspect that it's a clone of clone due to the switch). The stingray has a magnet switch and it works by basically placing the polarities against one another. Once screwed in it creates a nice smooth resistance to hitting the fire button. The main pro of magnets over switches from what I've read is durability. The magnets last longer then springs...especially the cheap ones in clones. That said, I also half upgraded (after much aggravation and chipping one of the magnets to try and pry it out) the magnet on my stingray for a stronger resistance and shorter throw, so now I can stand it up right, unlocked and it wont fire. I also have replacement magnets for my nemesis, but I will need some glue or adhesive to secure them in their respective positions, otherwise they shift around. All that said, I will probably not buy another spring loaded mod to try and upgrade later, the one I have feels very squishy and loose. Magnets from here on out for me. The best magnet mod I've tried is from the Copper Fuhattan. It's tight, but smooth, and you can stick it to metal and the thing isn't going anywhere.

This reminds me, I'm gonna need to put up a post about good magnetic switch mods, I definitely want another.

 

[Oktyabr]

Springs: Cheap, can replace at any hardware store, easy to pick a custom "resistance" (how much pressure it takes to use the switch).

Magnets: Very smooth switch action, don't wear out or weaken from use, not as easy to replace or customize.

Early mechanicals, especially some of the first clones, were notorious for having poor machining in the switch components which might create a condition where the spring itself is/was part of the circuit (electricity always takes the path of least resistance), giving you a "hot spring" or "hot switch", even burning your finger sometimes if you pressed it not quite the right way. I imagine some very cheap clones still suffer from this problem. Because most magnetic switches never actually allow the magnets to come into complete contact with each other they *can not* be used as part of the circuit (magnets aren't great conductors anyway), meaning that the switch itself must actually be designed to not only work, but work well (without a spring to carry part of the electrical load).

Today $35+ can buy a very nicely machined clone and since the magnets do require some fairly tight machining tolerances to fit (and work) correctly it can be a sort of reassurance, knowing that if the manufacturer bothered to machine the switch to use magnets *and use them well*, that probably the rest of the machine work is of good quality too.

Personally I've found a new fondness for magnets but I have a few mods I use every day that still have springs in the switches too.

 

[sando7]

you might want to check this out
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sing-silicone-sleeve-spring.html#post14310962

 

[Blackboar]

I've come to appreciate the feel of a magnetic switch. I have a Shotgun mod that has a very strong magnetic button, but it's smooth and consistent on the entire throw. I have a 4Nine clone that has a softer magnet, but still gives a consistent tactile feel. I recently ordered a Stingray X clone, so ill have to report on it when I get it. My biggest fear with springs is that it will become an electrical conduit, making the current travel further to get to my atty. but I understand that newer designed mods have made the it more of a non-issue.

As far as durability, a quality spring will last a long time. Although it's a different animal, the springs in my competition Glock's slide and magazines have lasted through 20,000+ rounds and are still quite stiff and strong. Now in a mod, if the springs are even half that quality, it should last quite a long time.

 

[Mrez]

I've come to appreciate the feel of a magnetic switch. I have a Shotgun mod that has a very strong magnetic button, but it's smooth and consistent on the entire throw. I have a 4Nine clone that has a softer magnet, but still gives a consistent tactile feel. I recently ordered a Stingray X clone, so ill have to report on it when I get it. My biggest fear with springs is that it will become an electrical conduit, making the current travel further to get to my atty. but I understand that newer designed mods have made the it more of a non-issue.

As far as durability, a quality spring will last a long time. Although it's a different animal, the springs in my competition Glock's slide and magazines have lasted through 20,000+ rounds and are still quite stiff and strong. Now in a mod, if the springs are even half that quality, it should last quite a long time.

Who did you order the stingray X clone from? I got mine through vape royalty and I am pretty happy with it. The magnet was a bit weak and the throw was long, but I ordered upgrade magnets from Fatdaddy. Sadly I couldn't pry out the top piece magnet, but the bottom one came out okish. Replaced it with one of the upgrade and it created a shorter tighter throw. Also, on my Stingray X, the delrin piece on the switch wasn't raised high enough off the switch so I had an auto firing problem. I stuck a rda o ring under it and that gave me the millimeter throw distance I needed. It doesn't quite close tighten down all the way so you can almost see the bottom edge of the tube, but overall, I'm fairly happy with how it turned out, especially when I smoothed out the edge on the bottom piece of the switch where the pin threads in.

 

[NOMINDTR]

Thanks for the information.

This reminds me, I'm gonna need to put up a post about good magnetic switch mods, I definitely want another.

That would be a real benefit to new comers

 

[Blackboar]

Who did you order the stingray X clone from?

I ordered mine through Vaping Walrus. It's a SXK/Infinite clone. I am anxiously waiting for vape mail now .

 

[Mrez]

Nice, I'd be curious how the Hcigar made one is different from the SXK/Infinite version. If you could, would you mind snapping pictures of the switch assembly assembled and disassembled? I'm curious if the button lays flush on the sxk/infinite version.