mAh battery question!
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More mah means more vaping time between recharges and more steady voltage at the same amount of time comparing to a lower mah battery
Batteries are labeled with their size. 14500 is 14 mm in diameter and 50 mm long, the 0 on the end means it is cylinder. The 18650 is 18 mm wide by 65mm long. Size matters and the bigger the battery the longer it will last you. Vapor production is the same on all 3.7v batteries right off the charger.
Welcome Shaun,
It's a huge huge topic, but I'll try and answer as succinctly as possible.
With modified e-cigs, you will come across a variety of batteries, most take one or two different types, the GGTS, takes them ALL.
Batteries vary greatly in size and capacity.
The first two digits refer to an approximate diameter and the third and fourth two refer to an approximate length, the last 0 denoting that the battery is a round shape.
For example, 18650 batteries are approximately 18mm in diameter and approximately 65mm in length - although these dimensions vary from battery to battery and also between protected and unprotected versions.
The larger the battery is, the more capacity is usually has, the capacity is expressed in mAh. Average users can get a day or two of vaping out of an 18650. From your other forum posts, it sounds like you would not want a battery as big as the 18650, or the 14500, so for your purposes, you're looking at a 10440 battery on the GG slim. These are usually sold at around 500mAh but in practise are probably nearer 400mAh (or maybe even less). Capacity is often mis-advertised on Chinese batteries and there's not a lot we can do about it unfortunately.
So, comparing a 10440 to a standard 808 e-cig battery for example, you'd get about 2.5 times more vaping time on a 10440 than on a standard 808 battery.
What's more, standard li-ion batteries tend to be cheaper than Chinese e-cig batteries and you can pick them up at many more outlets including flashlight shops etc.
Hope this helps with a few of your questions.
It's a huge huge topic, but I'll try and answer as succinctly as possible.
With modified e-cigs, you will come across a variety of batteries, most take one or two different types, the GGTS, takes them ALL.
Batteries vary greatly in size and capacity.
The first two digits refer to an approximate diameter and the third and fourth two refer to an approximate length, the last 0 denoting that the battery is a round shape.
For example, 18650 batteries are approximately 18mm in diameter and approximately 65mm in length - although these dimensions vary from battery to battery and also between protected and unprotected versions.
The larger the battery is, the more capacity is usually has, the capacity is expressed in mAh. Average users can get a day or two of vaping out of an 18650. From your other forum posts, it sounds like you would not want a battery as big as the 18650, or the 14500, so for your purposes, you're looking at a 10440 battery on the GG slim. These are usually sold at around 500mAh but in practise are probably nearer 400mAh (or maybe even less). Capacity is often mis-advertised on Chinese batteries and there's not a lot we can do about it unfortunately.
So, comparing a 10440 to a standard 808 e-cig battery for example, you'd get about 2.5 times more vaping time on a 10440 than on a standard 808 battery.
What's more, standard li-ion batteries tend to be cheaper than Chinese e-cig batteries and you can pick them up at many more outlets including flashlight shops etc.
Hope this helps with a few of your questions.
What the Chinese state on there batteries is always overrated. The only batteries that are underrated are from AW. Besides that the amount of cycles you can charge them is also overrated and not accurate.They are more expensive, but you pay for what you get in this world. Don't spend your good money on crap batties while you hold the best PV in the world I say. Also the chargers. What do you expect from those cheap one's???
I have a charger that I can leave in the AC outlet for a week with batteries and they don't get hot, now that is A charger and that is how it should be. So get the best, as the GG deserves only the best!
I have a charger that I can leave in the AC outlet for a week with batteries and they don't get hot, now that is A charger and that is how it should be. So get the best, as the GG deserves only the best!
AW is the Best right now, I have been using the new IC 18650 2600 mAh and the little 3v Batts as well, they just seem to fire better, hotter and last. As Emonty said you have the worlds best PV in your hand buy the best batts for it..
There is another technical specification on Batteries that is frequently over looked. That spec would be the Max Discharge Current. The Max Discharge Current, if too low could result in the atomizer not getting Hot enough, thus producing less Vapor
The following Size info was taken from the Spec sheet at LightHound
10180 battery - 10mm x 18mm (1/3 AAA size)
10280 battery - 10mm x 28mm (1/2 AAA size)
10440 battery - 10mm x 44mm (AAA size)
14250 battery - 14mm x 25mm (1/2 AA size)
14500 battery - 14mm x 50mm (AA size)
16340 battery - 16mm x 34mm (nominal CR123a size)
17335 battery - 17mm x 35mm (nominal CR123a size)
17500 battery - 17mm x 50mm - slightly wider than CR-123, but 1.5 times the height of the typical CR-123a battery - two of these will generally replace three of the CR-123a batteries
17670 battery - 17mm x 67mm - about the size of two CR-123a batteries, but less overall voltage, 4.2v max vs. 6v max from two primary batteries
18500 battery - 18mm x 50mm - wider than CR-123a, about 1.5 times the height of a single CR-123a battery,
18650 battery - 18mm x 65mm - wider than CR-123a, about 2x the height of a single CR-123a battery,
The following Size info was taken from the Spec sheet at LightHound
10180 battery - 10mm x 18mm (1/3 AAA size)
10280 battery - 10mm x 28mm (1/2 AAA size)
10440 battery - 10mm x 44mm (AAA size)
14250 battery - 14mm x 25mm (1/2 AA size)
14500 battery - 14mm x 50mm (AA size)
16340 battery - 16mm x 34mm (nominal CR123a size)
17335 battery - 17mm x 35mm (nominal CR123a size)
17500 battery - 17mm x 50mm - slightly wider than CR-123, but 1.5 times the height of the typical CR-123a battery - two of these will generally replace three of the CR-123a batteries
17670 battery - 17mm x 67mm - about the size of two CR-123a batteries, but less overall voltage, 4.2v max vs. 6v max from two primary batteries
18500 battery - 18mm x 50mm - wider than CR-123a, about 1.5 times the height of a single CR-123a battery,
18650 battery - 18mm x 65mm - wider than CR-123a, about 2x the height of a single CR-123a battery,
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Excellent information Zoranth - just bear in mind that these are merely nominal dimensions of the cells without their heat shrunk covering and PCBs - The finished size differs on all batteries due to these manufacturing differences.
I use all the 16340's and it is hard to tell any differance in power or vaping time....
As everyone has doubtlessly figured out by now, I am an emonty convert: meaning that I just frakkin' love cartos at 6v on my ggts/afs am/grande.
I've been having a bit of trouble with my tenergy cr123 lifepo4's, though. Seems that I have a tendency to overtighten them just a bit when stacking them in the TS and create divots in the top one. I'm not wild about the use I'm getting between charges, especially compared with the 18650.
OTOH, I love the life I get out of the high drain 18650's, and lack of a divot problem with them, but they're in the 'close, but no cigar' category when pushing current through a cartoed AFS. Nice for longer, slower drags but they don't have the glorious short puff of vape when using cigar juice.
I suspect this is probably not the case, but does anyone know of a 6v battery roughly the size of a 18650 that doesn't require a special charger? I'm probably SOL, but thought I'd ask anyway.
I'm also facing what to use in my weekend long car trip this weekend when I drop off the kids with the evil on-I mean their mother-in Illinois. The cr123s do have a good car charger which can handle the divots with just a bit of tinfoil to make contact. The 18650's last longer, but don't have a car charger. I'll throw in a couple of spare iattys if my carto gives out.
18650 at 3.7v or cr123's at 6v? Or should I just stuff my bag full with everything and try to sort it out as I go?
I've been having a bit of trouble with my tenergy cr123 lifepo4's, though. Seems that I have a tendency to overtighten them just a bit when stacking them in the TS and create divots in the top one. I'm not wild about the use I'm getting between charges, especially compared with the 18650.
OTOH, I love the life I get out of the high drain 18650's, and lack of a divot problem with them, but they're in the 'close, but no cigar' category when pushing current through a cartoed AFS. Nice for longer, slower drags but they don't have the glorious short puff of vape when using cigar juice.
I suspect this is probably not the case, but does anyone know of a 6v battery roughly the size of a 18650 that doesn't require a special charger? I'm probably SOL, but thought I'd ask anyway.
I'm also facing what to use in my weekend long car trip this weekend when I drop off the kids with the evil on-I mean their mother-in Illinois. The cr123s do have a good car charger which can handle the divots with just a bit of tinfoil to make contact. The 18650's last longer, but don't have a car charger. I'll throw in a couple of spare iattys if my carto gives out.
18650 at 3.7v or cr123's at 6v? Or should I just stuff my bag full with everything and try to sort it out as I go?
I don't use anything else anymore then the AW 3V batties. No worry about denting them because they are stronger then the tenergy's. Actually the Tenergy's are not that good I think. I do have a special charger though that charges very fast, don't heat up the batteries and leave them in all day and night without any worries. If you are interested in that charger, PM me
I'm not using the AW 3.0v at the moment. But it has worked great on the other brand of 123 3.0v I have been using for 4 months now. Interesting about it not working for the AW's though. hmmn?
bad idea charging 3v batteries on a 3.7V charger.
From the spec sheet booklet I got with the Pila Charger it says it also is for 3v battery charging too. It also has a built in protection circuit not to overcharge the batteries. I also only use protected batteries. I'll double check with the manufacturer though.
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