mailing the law makers

[kackourey]

I live in PA and dont want anything to happen to the legality of ecigs here...or anywhere else for that matter. Do you tihnk I should start mailing them now before talks of banning occur? or should I wait it out? who should I talk to? what should i say?

I feel like a nice description of ecigs and how it helped me and that they shouldnt be banned might start their interest in them and might cause them to do some research or have knowledge prior to any banning issues come up. Maybe it will be dismissed right away due to previous knowledge.

How do other feel?

 

[kackourey]

no comments at all??

 

[svzurich]

Thinking it can't hurt to let the lawmakers know that you are in favor of vaping and that you will vote against any lawmaker who seeks to ban them.

 

[Stephra]

The main concern is drawing attention to something that may just be flying under the radar. If you put the blip there, some quick googling will turn up the ban attempts elsewhere and they might just jump on the ban-wagon.

I'm just a short drive from Harrisburg - if a ban attempt happens, guess where I'll be camping out? Honestly, with the state of things in PA, I doubt it's even on their radar - they are more worried about trying to balance a budget that just ain't gonna balance. I'd be more worried about them trying to TAX e-cigs, then trying to BAN them.

 

[pdssoft]

Actually, you should send your letter to Phillip Morris instead... $$$$

 

[kinghorse]

I'm in the "don't mention it" camp. I did send a pretty nasty email to the ALA basically stating I won't be supporting a "charity" that is involved in getting a product they should be behind banned.

 

[DC2]

Go to the Campaigning subforum if you like using electronic cigarettes.
Do nothing if you don't really care if the government takes them away soon.

This is not really aimed at the original poster, and it is VERY good that you care.
I am just using your post to send a message to those who are sitting on their butts.

 

[DC2]

The main concern is drawing attention to something that may just be flying under the radar. If you put the blip there, some quick googling will turn up the ban attempts elsewhere and they might just jump on the ban-wagon.

Flying under the radar?

We are way, way, way, way, way, way past flying under the radar stage.
Seriously.

 

[sabrin20]

Hi kar.
I have to say i agree with ya but im really when we hear its gonna happen to us i guess we better then and only then jump on the bandwagon.
I hope it doesnt happen here but if it does then ill worry.

 

[jj2]

Mail a letter to the NY politicians. Tell them your story and let them know that they will be losing out of state business if they ban.
Make them aware of Judge Leon’s decision.

Check out post 27, and include if this is true.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-passes-bill-ban-electronic-cigarettes-3.html


Hopefully more and more states will decide not to proceed like Illinois, and the more that do means the others won’t even bother to bother.

 

[the_antisheep]

I'm in the "don't mention it" camp. I did send a pretty nasty email to the ALA basically stating I won't be supporting a "charity" that is involved in getting a product they should be behind banned.

Nothing good can come from bringing to the surface what is in no one's minds. Out of sight, out of mind.

If they get interested in this (either due to you, or someone else), the best you can expect is either:

A. They will be taxed.
B. They will be banned.

Don't put it in front of their face until there is a need to.

I am actually of the camp that believes this might not have been as big of an issue if people would have quit trying to bring it to the forefront by flauntingly vaping in non-smoking areas, and soliciting in malls (perceivably opening up the market to ease of access for children.)

 

[jj2]

One more thing, tell those politicians how happy your family and friends are that you are not smoking. You just double, tripled, etc etc the potential voters they might be pissing off.

 

[DC2]

Nothing good can come from bringing to the surface what is in no one's minds. Out of sight, out of mind.

If they get interested in this (either due to you, or someone else), the best you can expect is either:

A. They will be taxed.
B. They will be banned.

Don't put it in front of their face until there is a need to.

You clearly don't know what's really going on.
I don't mean that to sound harsh, but it is what it is.

It is not only in front of their face right now, it is about to possibly be taken from YOUR face.
You, and every single one of us, needs to get INVOLVED, and I mean RIGHT NOW.

Just take a peak at the Campaigning subforum.

 

[quakereject]

The problem is, ecig's are a victim of their own success. They work TOO good.

Pharmaceutical and tobacco companies don't like that, it keeps people from using their regulated, taxed, addiction driven product. They're basically a much more organized drug cartel. Keep you lining their pockets, regardless of any concern for health.

Until they have control over the Ecig market, their little lapdog, the FDA and the Government will try to get them out of our hands. To be replaced by "approved" versions that cost more, are severely taxed, and are far, far less reliable... providing a need for continued sales of parts and such.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is absolutely zero evidence the FDA should even give a damn, except their own, completely inconclusive and extremely brief analysis that hides any and all actual figures on health risks with small generalizations. The fact that cigs are even approved at all if these are their standards would lead one to believe something just isn't right with them, or the people who stand behind them.

 

[the_antisheep]

The problem is, ecig's are a victim of their own success. They work TOO good.

Pharmaceutical and Tobacco companies don't like that, it keeps people from using their regulated, taxed, addiction driven product. They're basically a much more organized drug cartel. Keep you lining their pockets, regardless of any concern for health.

Until they have control over the Ecig market, their little lapdog, the FDA and the Government will try to get them out of our hands. To be replaced by "approved" versions that cost more, are severely taxed, and are far, far less reliable... providing a need for continued sales of parts and such.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but there is absolutely zero evidence the FDA should even give a damn, except their own, completely inconclusive and extremely brief analysis that hides any and all actual figures on health risks with small generalizations. The fact that cigs are even approved at all if these are their standards would lead one to believe something just isn't right with them, or the people who stand behind them.

The approval of my previous brand of cig (Eclipse) despite their assessment that it was wrongly marketed as a safe alternative, and was potentially "more, or just as" dangerous as an analog is proof that any action taken against ecigs is unfounded and biased.

 

[the_antisheep]

You clearly don't know what's really going on.
I don't mean that to sound harsh, but it is what it is.

It is not only in front of their face right now, it is about to possibly be taken from YOUR face.
You, and every single one of us, needs to get INVOLVED, and I mean RIGHT NOW.

Just take a peak at the Campaigning subforum.

Bringing this to the forefront of states that are not actively involved in ecig legislation is opening the proverbial can of worms IMHO. I understand what is happening in NY, and this needs to be addressed and fought with every ounce of will-power within the NY community, but let's not spread the disease by throwing the product onto tables of those currently ignorant who will do no good with it, right? What do you think the initial knee jerk reaction of most senators and representatives in states will be when you try to sell them the goods with the word "cigarette" on it? It's unfortunate, but you are bringing a product to them with a name associated with a stigma of death, and trying to convince them it's safe and harmless?

The FDA has spoken their piece, but no Federal legislation asking for a nationwide ban has occurred, correct? I believe the Feds are leaving themselves off the ban wagon for the time being in the interest of allowing the states to do the dirty work... Correct me if I'm wrong...

And what campaigning subforum?

 

[DC2]

Campaigning subforum: Campaigning - E-Cigarette Forum

This issue is, and has been, in the forefront already for the following states...
--California
--Illinois
--Utah
--New Jersey
--New York
--Maryland

There may be others I am missing.

To hope it will go away is folly.
The fight is at our doorsteps right now.

And fight we must, for reals.

 

[v1John]

I agree with DC2, ask and post these questions in the campaigning part of the forum, please.