Got me thinking with all the new flavors coming out at TV this might be a good time to do a "new flavor" co-op. between Vanilla Cupcake, Pumpkin Spice, Strawberry Colada, Boysenberry and Jolly Rancher possibilities 
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Got me thinking with all the new flavors coming out at TV this might be a good time to do a "new flavor" co-op. between Vanilla Cupcake, Pumpkin Spice, Strawberry Colada, Boysenberry and Jolly Rancher possibilities
VQ, we have a couple of new flavorings in the works. The flavorings have been mixed and we are waiting for them to age. I imagine all TV employees will have a "tasting" party at the end of this week. Depending on the results, we will announce which ones will be added.
You guys never rest do you? This sounds great, can't wait to try some Sour Apple on my next order.
We've been forcing ourselves to take a day off....but it's hard not to get looped back in. Seriously, if you lot knew how dedicated to this business/cause our 7 employees were...
You see, if it were just a job, it would be easy enough to just do 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and ignore it the rest of the time, but because there are about 5 of us who use the product, are aware of the "alternative", we're pretty passionate about what we're doing and why we're doing it.
Just sad you guys only really see the end product.
But yes, we've been forcing ourselves to take at least one day off.
As for the new flavors, we didn't want to spill the beans yet. R&D baby, we do a preliminary mix, do it until it smells right, then let it age at least two weeks, try the product and figure out if it's a draft that needs to be fine tuned, or if it's fine like it is, then up on the site it goes.
So, we have four new flavors, the one you already know about (strawberry colada), I will tell you that one of the new flavors will be another customizable flavor where you can pick two additional flavorings.
I WILL spill the beans on one of them. We're concerned about the AC. Loranns HAS gone downhill with their cinnamon essential oil and we are currently testing a "like" cinnamon through Perfumer's Apprentice. We're testing it for flavor, separation, comparable qualities, etc.
We've had to send a few gallons back to Lorann's over their inconsistencies with flavorings. You'd think a company that's been around as long as they have would have things down to a science, BUT, we've had gallons of cinnamon come to us, sometimes weak, sometimes with things floating in it...We've had one gallon of butter rum coming to us light brown in color then the next outright brown. For an older company like Lorann's, their inconsistencies are possibly costing us customers, because the customer wants to think and believe the the problem is US no matter how much convincing we try to do. We're beginning to see similar behavior with Capella's as well. Not good, but we'll keep an eye on them, so you don't have to.
The ONE company that has been consistent has been Perfumer's Apprentice.
But anyway, blah blah blah.
We gots some new flavors coming you way! Hope you enjoy.
Added note, just ONE customer bought something with the "Sour" added. Instead of waiting to see how they like it, I really need to mix up a batch to see if this will cause any throat irritations that we need to be concerned about.
please let me/us (mostly me..lol) know how the AC turns out. it was my all time favorite untill the recent issues. i will glady buy lots of it from you even if i have to pay more for it than usual.
This is really a shame I'm a fan of Lorann's flavorings and always have been, it's hard to imagine that this company like you say Geoff cant make the same product every time especially selling gallons of it to the same buyer all the time and mostly the same flavors too, did you write to them or meet with them, what was there excuse of why it's not always the same, this is unbelievable.
Yeah, MWA, they didn't bother with excuses, they just said that I could ship it back and they'd ship me a new bottle and tell them the lot number on the bottle so they can check their stocks.
The new AC isn't a new AC at all unless it gets not only a blessing from our staff, but the approval of the ECF community which buys this stuff by the gallons.
I've been vaping the new stuff and it just DOESN'T pack the punch the other AC does, so I don't think this will be a comparable flavoring.
This is sad, because some of the issues we've had with Lorann's cinnamon, I'd really like to stop using their cinnamon. This stuff costs a LOT, so I'm not pleased when three different times, they've sent us bottles of cinnamon with this swarm of stuff floating inside of the bottle. That isn't cool, and not representative of what we intend to offer our customers. I'm sure you can understand this.
The new AC isn't a new AC at all unless it gets not only a blessing from our staff, but the approval of the ECF community which buys this stuff by the gallons.
I've been vaping the new stuff and it just DOESN'T pack the punch the other AC does, so I don't think this will be a comparable flavoring.
This is sad, because some of the issues we've had with Lorann's cinnamon, I'd really like to stop using their cinnamon. This stuff costs a LOT, so I'm not pleased when three different times, they've sent us bottles of cinnamon with this swarm of stuff floating inside of the bottle. That isn't cool, and not representative of what we intend to offer our customers. I'm sure you can understand this.
wonder if lorrains is having some "behind the scenes" finacial issues? either way, im glad your looking to do something with the AC.
We may have to stop using (vendor) too. (vendor) seems to be cutting some corners as the flavorings (company) been sending us have been VERY weak lately. For someone doing as well as (person) is, I don't know why they're watering down the flavorings.
Back on topic, I've got a test bottle of Granny Smith, 24mg, 40% VG w/sweetener and sour booster aging on the R&D shelf. I'll be able to test for myself if this is going to have any kind of throat irritation that we should be concerned about AND if it is effective in giving the sour effect we are hoping for.
For those who don't want to wait for my results, you can STILL ask us to "make it sour" in your shipping notes.
Back on topic, I've got a test bottle of Granny Smith, 24mg, 40% VG w/sweetener and sour booster aging on the R&D shelf. I'll be able to test for myself if this is going to have any kind of throat irritation that we should be concerned about AND if it is effective in giving the sour effect we are hoping for.
For those who don't want to wait for my results, you can STILL ask us to "make it sour" in your shipping notes.
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greed? bad economy? either way, i hope you get stuff worked out.
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Yeah, me too. I've been HELLOF working with Linda on a lot of flavorings. Waffle really is one of those I'm hoping to get the bugs worked out on. She usually gets a flavor in, sends me a sample, our staff takes a smell, gives feedback, more of this, less of that, smells too much like chemicals, then we go from there. Usually in about two or three volleys of this, we end up with a really decent flavor from her. We've been doing this for a year now. We really love what she's been able to accomplish and she does NOT cut corners. This is why we love her so damned much.
Ewwww. Just ewwww.
Soured up lemonade with sweetener would probably be great. (I'm switching from sucralose to stevia so I'd have to add my own sweetener but when I run out of my current bottle of lemonade I might try that.)
Was vaping Granny Smith with sweetener and Lorann's "Tart Booster" after it sat a couple of days.
This is a strange experience. Because it's NOT like you'd expect like when you stick a sour candy in your mouth, makes your mouth water, you feel the glands at the back of your jaw tighten a little, makes you pucker, etc. It's a very different translation in vapor form. There's a tartness to the vapor, but not the same as a candy. This is something that comes off more subtle and is evenly distributed through your mouth and throughout your lungs. Very different experience. I went light on the sour for this experiment. It'll probably be intensified when I add more, but I definitely notice it ups the TH a bit.
It's not a mouth puckering experience, but a mouth/lung tartness experience. Really odd. Different, but not unpleasant at all. Just different.
This is a strange experience. Because it's NOT like you'd expect like when you stick a sour candy in your mouth, makes your mouth water, you feel the glands at the back of your jaw tighten a little, makes you pucker, etc. It's a very different translation in vapor form. There's a tartness to the vapor, but not the same as a candy. This is something that comes off more subtle and is evenly distributed through your mouth and throughout your lungs. Very different experience. I went light on the sour for this experiment. It'll probably be intensified when I add more, but I definitely notice it ups the TH a bit.
It's not a mouth puckering experience, but a mouth/lung tartness experience. Really odd. Different, but not unpleasant at all. Just different.
I have no new info, except what I've expressed. I think at this juncture, reviews from others would be prudent in determining if more or less is needed, or if this is even what people are looking for in terms of a "sour" flavor. As stated, this adds a slight tartness to the vapor and you can feel it in your mouth, throat lungs, but not a strong tart. It's subtle, it's NOT the same thing as sticking a tart candy in your mouth and getting that sour punch that makes you squint, pucker and mouth water. I think it's a rather nice subtle, but for someone who's looking to turn their face inside out, this may be a let down.
The sour is a very nice change, I took down a bottle of watermelon and had to get more. The sweet and sour took a tad from the flavor, but worth it for the TH and experience, good job in my book
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