Hey all. So before the mail ban I ordered 2 gallons of unflavored ready to flavor juice. I had being ordering 80/20 for years but they ran out so I had to get 70/30. Turns out it really aggravates my throat and I cant vape it without constantly having to clear my throat. I was planning on buying some food grade PG and up the mix from 70/30 to 80/20. My question is how would I go about doing it? I assume it would be a little over a gallon correct? Can anyone help figure it out?If not I have 2 gallons of juice I cant use. Thanks so much!
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So, you're saying VG hurts your throat.
To turn 2 gallons of 70pg/30vg to 80pg/20vg, I'm guessing you'll need to add somewhere around a quart.
My thinking is the difference between 70 and 80 is 12.5%, times 2 equals a quart.
Just know that you'll dilute your nic strength if there is any. Let's see if an actual mathlete shows up before you try this. lol
To turn 2 gallons of 70pg/30vg to 80pg/20vg, I'm guessing you'll need to add somewhere around a quart.
My thinking is the difference between 70 and 80 is 12.5%, times 2 equals a quart.
Just know that you'll dilute your nic strength if there is any. Let's see if an actual mathlete shows up before you try this. lol
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I believe the product is attainable by straight proration…
0.8 * 2 / 0.7= 2.2857142857142857
Adding the product of .2857gal will yield the 80% ratio of PG (retaining the orig volume of VG as unchanged).
Correct me if I'm wrong. I am no math genius.
Good luck.
p.s. As for VG…more vapor, more flavor. Less filling.
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So, you're saying I was close?I believe the product is attainable by straight proration…
0.8 * 2 / 0.7= 2.2857142857142857
Adding the product of .2857gal will yield the 80% ratio of PG (retaining the orig volume of VG unchanged).
Correct me if I'm wrong. I am no math genius. Good luck.
Hey! Thanks so much. Its weird it's not so much that it hurts its more like a constant itch. Like I have to clear my throat but it never clears. I appreciate your input!
Thanks so much! I'm gonna give it a goI believe the product is attainable by straight proration…
0.8 * 2 / 0.7= 2.2857142857142857
Adding the product of .2857gal will yield the 80% ratio of PG (retaining the orig volume of VG as unchanged).
Correct me if I'm wrong. I am no math genius.
Good luck.
p.s. As for VG…more vapor, more flavor. Less filling.
Huh, now you want more math outta me? Too early in the day for such logical gymnastics.
Seriously tho, proration is a wonderful tool for volume/mixing.
Good luck.
Seriously tho, proration is a wonderful tool for volume/mixing.
Good luck.
Hold on. I think that the convention is VG/PG. So adding PG would lower the ratio, not increase it. Also, It's been my experience that it's the PG that irritates the throat and the VG that soothes the throat. Isn't all of the above backwards?
yeah I'm a bit confused too, just wanting to make sure
so you were vaping 80pg/20vg?
I'd really think that high of pg would cause irritation
typically higher pg = more throat hit
higher vg = smoother, thicker can sometimes cause a sort of heavy feeling
the other factor is if there's nic in these...higher nic than you are used to could also cause more of a harsh vape if it's freebase nic.
just want to make sure that we are all on the same page....as typically higher pg would cause more throat irritation
so you were vaping 80pg/20vg?
I'd really think that high of pg would cause irritation
typically higher pg = more throat hit
higher vg = smoother, thicker can sometimes cause a sort of heavy feeling
the other factor is if there's nic in these...higher nic than you are used to could also cause more of a harsh vape if it's freebase nic.
just want to make sure that we are all on the same page....as typically higher pg would cause more throat irritation
Have you ever considered the opposite?
I'm flavor sensitive and had to work at it for years to tolerate 20% PG.
Bear in mind too that we v a p e. The minute water content of VG expands in explosive proportion to the VG/PG serving as the carrier for these aerosolized components. Vaporization is a violent affair. I have difficulty understanding how we get more vapor out of higher PG without substantially adding to power.
Enjoy the vape. Good luck.
Hey, look. I was the first to ask
Maybe VG does kill his throat. I know for myself it causes more congestion. I typically vape at 60-65pg.
Maybe VG does kill his throat. I know for myself it causes more congestion. I typically vape at 60-65pg.
Assuming you mean that you bought 70VG, and you want to turn 70VG into 80VG, then you need VG to do that, not PG.
If on the other hand if you meant you bought 70PG and you want to turn it into 80PG, then you'd be correct in buying PG to accomplish this.
This why I hate the "#/#" way of communicating PG/VG or VG/PG ratios.
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Hey, look. I was the first to ask
Maybe VG does kill his throat. I know for myself it causes more congestion. I typically vape at 60-65pg.
No worries, it's possible, yes. I enjoy a really dense output but it can tend to produce the dregs for sure. Started early on managing that using multiple devices with different builds for different purposes and moods.
A comfortably controllable dry vape I get on single coil squonk RDA's I can chain hit aggressively and still get acceptable vapor out to 25% VG. Alas, I really love the very dense and voluminous vape out of my comp mech rigs.
We all have to find our comfort level.
Enjoy and good luck.
Might want to test 10-30ml first, before changing the whole gallon.
That is an assumed convention with eliquid manufactures, at least it seems. In reality, there is none, especially on forums.
The proration above doesn't work.
If you are starting with 2 gallons at 70%, you have 1.4 gallons of VG and 0.6 gallons of PG. Total =2 gallons
1.4/2 = 0.7 or 70%
If you add a quart of VG, or 0.25 gallons
You'll have 1.4 + 0.25 = 1.65 gallons of VG and 0.6 gallons of PG 1.65+0.6 = 2.25 gallons total
1.65/2.25 = 73.3% VG
I put this into a spread sheet and by trial and error got that you need to add 1 gallon of VG.
You'll have 1.4 + 1 = 2.4 gallons of VG and 0.6 gallons of PG. Total = 3 gallons
2.4/3 =80% VG.
This calculation is based on volume rather than weight. I think that these calculations are usually based on volume.
That's a lot of juice. The nicotine content will go down considerably too. That would be a more complicated calculation. I could do it for you tonight if you want. I'm supposed to be working now.
The board doesn't allow me to upload a spreadsheet. Here's an image of it
If you are starting with 2 gallons at 70%, you have 1.4 gallons of VG and 0.6 gallons of PG. Total =2 gallons
1.4/2 = 0.7 or 70%
If you add a quart of VG, or 0.25 gallons
You'll have 1.4 + 0.25 = 1.65 gallons of VG and 0.6 gallons of PG 1.65+0.6 = 2.25 gallons total
1.65/2.25 = 73.3% VG
I put this into a spread sheet and by trial and error got that you need to add 1 gallon of VG.
You'll have 1.4 + 1 = 2.4 gallons of VG and 0.6 gallons of PG. Total = 3 gallons
2.4/3 =80% VG.
This calculation is based on volume rather than weight. I think that these calculations are usually based on volume.
That's a lot of juice. The nicotine content will go down considerably too. That would be a more complicated calculation. I could do it for you tonight if you want. I'm supposed to be working now.
The board doesn't allow me to upload a spreadsheet. Here's an image of it
I vape at 70pg/30vg for the past 10 years, never had throat irritation or feel like I get a lot of throat hit or any harshness. If I up the VG I get congestion, slimy mouth feel, chest heaviness and other unpleasantness.
When I started vaping in 2011 70pg/30vg was the most common ratio in commercial eliquids.
used to be PG/VG maybe because PG was the higher ratio and flipped when VG became the common higher ratio?
I still always read it as PG/VG
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