manipulating air holes

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danielwd

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I have a smoking everywhere cigarette and I have noticed there are two holes above the cartridge (filter) that allows air to come into the system. If I manipulate these holes slightly, I can control how much the 'drag' is carried and how much vapor is produced.

Without manipulating the holes, I have to really suck on the thing for it to give me anything and produce any vapor.

Is this normal? And why are manufacters or retailers properly informing people of this format?
 

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I recently covered just less than half of the intake hole on my 901 and I gotta say, it really increased the throat burn. I told a few people at work to try it and they love it. One guy said he was not so happy with the 901 and thought about trying to 'make it bigger', but after I showed him, he loved it. The way I tested it was used my wife's hair rubber band (I don't know the size... the small one) and just double looped it and started slowly covering it until I found the sweet spot. For me, it was JUST SHORT of half-way covered. It gives a stronger throat hit, but still gives a good flavor. After I figured out where to go with the rubber band, I covered it to that point with tape. Lovin' it.
 

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poster asking about smoking everywhere

yes they suck badly, they are extremely overpriced , bad service, broken batteries and dead atties,

they send out broken products in hopes you give up and they keep your money.


calling them is even worse for they hang up on you or transfer you to people who arent knowledgeable, the website hasnt been updated , just stay away from those people, they are crooks in every sence of the word.

they charge 100 dollars for an older style ecig that you can find here for 35 bucks.


back on topic thanks for the tip for the 901
 

danielwd

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Ive noticed alot of ppl giving smoking everywhere bad reviews.... how is it going with you guys?

There are good things and bad things. Even with manipulating the air holes on the smoke everywhere cig., it does not produce as much vapor as the Joye 51o with manual battery. However, the juice in the mint smoke everywhere cig. tastes really good to me. The menthol Ecopure is not as good, but the Joye smokes WAY BETTER!

Also, I had an absolutely horrible experience with smoking everywhere online - they tried to rip me off, but a debit card was cancelled before they could try. So I bought a kit in a local store. I'll keep it in case the Joye breaks.
 

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HATE IT!!!!!!! It was my first purchase of a ecig. I had no idea of what was out there and that is what I ended up with. The draw is difficult and too short and the atty taste terrible no matter what I do to it. I did mess with the cartridge by pulling out the small white cartridge that is inside of the main mouth piece and poke pin holes all around it and placed it back in which made to draw easier and more vapor but I would never ever recommended Smoke Everywhere to anyone. Within my first week of ecig-ing I purchased a Vapor King and its awesome. I just wish the cartridges lasted longer because I don't have the dripping technique down just yet. Also, the people at Vapor4life are amazing to buy from. They are good people
 

P3rplexity

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smokingeverywhere is terrible, nobody should buy from them. Their products are very over priced and they aren't near as good as others. Luckily i had a decent customer sales rep who was kind enough to refund me my money after I shipped them back the product (took me over a month to get somebody to help me from their support line.)
 
Hey guys, its been forever, but figured i'd throw in some love for the SE Gold you are talking about.

Personally, I have had 0 problems with mine. Granted sometiems i have to "kick start" it, by covering a hole for the first drag, but overall i get amazing vapor from it. In fact, the favor production is equal to the 510 on every level. I have had my SE gold for what, 6 months now? and the same atty is still kicking. Granted in the past 3 months i use it far less, maybe 2 days a week, but it is doing amazing.

It is VERY overpriced, but it does work quite well.
 

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Hello! Thanks to all who got me up to speed on vaping! Smoke free 10 days now. As for manipulating the holes, works good to get a denser hit, especially if you draw fast (like you used to off an analog). Take some fine wet/dry sandpaper of at least 600 grit. Place it abrasive side up on a table. Take a battery off a 510 and put it so the atomizer side of the battery is down on the sandpaper. Make some small circles or figure 8's untill you shave a little of the material off. Keep testing untill it hit like you want. You can take too much and it will be like sucking a milkshake through a coffee stir! The end result will be holes that are perhaps 20% smaller. Maybe try it with a battery starting to not hold it's charge anymore so if you don't like it the battery is at the end of it's life anyways.
 

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Hey guys, its been forever, but figured i'd throw in some love for the SE Gold you are talking about.

Personally, I have had 0 problems with mine. Granted sometiems i have to "kick start" it, by covering a hole for the first drag, but overall i get amazing vapor from it. In fact, the favor production is equal to the 510 on every level. I have had my SE gold for what, 6 months now? and the same atty is still kicking. Granted in the past 3 months i use it far less, maybe 2 days a week, but it is doing amazing.

It is VERY overpriced, but it does work quite well.

I agree to some extent. I especially like their mint cartridges. They are very, very rich in flavor. But like I said before, mine has been tempermental. I am going to get a new atomizer soon though - I broke the last one trying to get rid of that nasty metal taste.
 

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There are good things and bad things. Even with manipulating the air holes on the smoke everywhere cig., it does not produce as much vapor as the Joye 51o with manual battery. However, the juice in the mint smoke everywhere cig. tastes really good to me. The menthol Ecopure is not as good, but the Joye smokes WAY BETTER!

Also, I had an absolutely horrible experience with smoking everywhere online - they tried to rip me off, but a debit card was cancelled before they could try. So I bought a kit in a local store. I'll keep it in case the Joye breaks.

People are always trying to line up the air holes. If you examine an atty closely, there is an undercut 360 degrees around the area of the holes. This undercut allows air flow no matter where the holes are positioned.

When you turn the atty to align the holes, you are actually loosening the atty which causes additional air to flow due to breaking the seal at the ring.

Aligning the holes has nothing to do with it.
 

Jim Davis

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HATE IT!!!!!!! It was my first purchase of a ecig. I had no idea of what was out there and that is what I ended up with. The draw is difficult and too short and the atty taste terrible no matter what I do to it. I did mess with the cartridge by pulling out the small white cartridge that is inside of the main mouth piece and poke pin holes all around it and placed it back in which made to draw easier and more vapor but I would never ever recommended Smoke Everywhere to anyone. Within my first week of ecig-ing I purchased a Vapor King and its awesome. I just wish the cartridges lasted longer because I don't have the dripping technique down just yet. Also, the people at Vapor4life are amazing to buy from. They are good people

You have to separate the facts.

SE is basically a scam, I agree.

The SE Gold model is simply an RN4081 with SE's name branded on it. The 4081 is a pretty good unit, and people are happy with them. Parts are cheap too. I'm blowing vapor from my 4081 at the bottom of my posts.
 

danielwd

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People are always trying to line up the air holes. If you examine an atty closely, there is an undercut 360 degrees around the area of the holes. This undercut allows air flow no matter where the holes are positioned.

When you turn the atty to align the holes, you are actually loosening the atty which causes additional air to flow due to breaking the seal at the ring.

Aligning the holes has nothing to do with it.

When I say that I am "manipulating the air holes", I do not mean "aligning the air holes", as you seem to think I mean.

I am covering them up with tape to cut them off. This increases vapor exponentially.
 

Jim Davis

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OK,
That tells me you have the batts with the vacuum actuated switches. When you cover the holes, it will increase the vacuum pull to activate the switch faster. The switch is mist likely stiff, and the increased vacuum helps it.

I had a couple of batts like that. Over time, they loosened up, and covering the holes was no longer necessary.
 

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Hey Jim.....Well I have to apologies to SE.....Now into my (I think second or close to it month) of vaping and having three different models of ecigs...The SE, VK, and 510 I am starting to understand these things and have taken my SE out of my ecig stash drawer and have given it anther try. I have found that it is not a bad little unit. I wish the draw was a bit longer but other then that its not too bad. I think my fave is my 510 but it seems each unit has its time and place.
 

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Yes, covering the holes fires the battery faster. Last spring the big deal was "4 hole atomizers", and then we covered the holes to get the battery to fire. My 4081 is still the BEST TASTING, MOST FLAVOR, atomizer I have, and it's the most durable. The 901 and 801 hold more juice, but they waste more juice too. My 401 and 4081 don't leak all over, and they wick to a dry cart.
 
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