Marlboro to e-cigs. suggestions?

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thehangdude

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I am a Marlboro smoker who wants to try e cigs. I have read through much of the forum (and am now more confused than ever). I am looking for a place to start.

I am looking for simplicity and flavor. I don't think I want to start with filling my own cartridges. Maybe a simple manual battery, with cartridges that are not candy-flavored.

I know others have probably asked the same question (many times), but I was unable to find answers. What is a good (easy, yet tasty) brand to start with? Where is the best place to buy? online or local (US)?
 

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I think the two most popular types of ecigs right now are the 3-piece 501/eGo/Riva and the 2-piece KR808D-1. I'm not sure about the best vendor for the former but someone will chime in soon. I use the latter and my preferred vendor is Vapor4Life.

The 3-piece uses a battery + atomizer + cart.
The 2-piece uses a battery + cartomizer.

I would strongly recommend a manual battery. I use the XL's. (380 Mah)

The e-liquid is a bit trickier because everyone has a different 'sweet spot' with the different flavors and strengths. If you are a Marlboro red [full-flavor] smoker of about a pack a day, I'd advise starting with 18-24mg strength. The flavor? Well, if you are like many of us here, you will start with tobacco-only flavors but you'll probably move on to coffee, fruit and/or specialty flavors before too long. They just taste better.

I'm sure that you'll get recommendations from other for e-juice that tastes like Marlboro. I started out with Virginia and Parliament flavored e-juices and quickly discovered that I preferred coffee, peppermint, black licorice, English toffee and Pancake flavors! My favorite vendors for e-juice are Vapor4Life and MyFreedomSmokes.

Buying online is better and cheaper - and it's usually shipped very quickly. There are loads of recommended vendors on the forum.

Hope this helps!
 
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I was a Marb light smoker for 28 years. When first starting out on my vaping journey I was looking for a good tobacco flavored juice. I placed many orders with Halo. I have since moved away from tobacco based flavors but the Halo stuff sure did hit the spot for me for about 3 months. He now sells penstyle kits and prefilled cartomizers too.

Electronic Cigarette by Halo
 

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Thank you for the quick responses. It is now obvious to me, I need to read more. I intend on ordering a "starter kit" with some either filled carts or e-liquid. I am still not sure what I am going to get, but now have more information to research on.

Keep the advice coming, and I will read it all. Thanks again.
 

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I was a Marb light smoker for 28 years. When first starting out on my vaping journey I was looking for a good tobacco flavored juice. I placed many orders with Halo. I have since moved away from tobacco based flavors but the Halo stuff sure did hit the spot for me for about 3 months. He now sells penstyle kits and prefilled cartomizers too.

Electronic Cigarette by Halo

Never tried it but I hear a lot of good things about Halo juice.
 

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With 3-piece ecigs most prefills are Chinese 100% PG juice which can be harsh on the mouth and throat and IMO not the pinnacle of ejuice aroma. A cart may last for 4-7 cigs worth of drags

With 2-piece ecigs like Vapor4Life there are higher quality prefills called cartomizers aka cartos (though some vendors like V4L call them carts) but you still might not like what they have and may decide to fill your own. Cartos hold about 2x as much juice as carts.

All of the above are refillable (2-piece carts have a limited lifetime of 4-14 days but hold more juice and need juice added less often. Note - you will see lying rebranders on the web who claim a carto lasts as long as a pack or 1.5 packs of cigs but that is unlikely, especially since they usually aren't even filled well because rebranders don't want customers killing auto batteries with juice drips and they also want customers to buy lots of cartos.

I think Vapor4Life.com (or buy OEM manual KR808D-1 at LiteCigUSA.net) and try Vapor4Life WOW Cowboy cartomizers and some of their tobacco samplers. For a full strength marlboro smoker try 24mg and 18mg. These are soft-cap cartomizers. You could start out just vaping them until you singe them and then throw them out. I think fairly shortly you will decide you do want to add juice to them to keep them damp and then you can get 4-7 days use out of each. Buy manual batteries which are a bit harder to kill. And I recommend standard size batteries. The unit will look slimmest in darker colors, especially matte black.
WOW Vapor Cowboy Cartomizers for Vapor King

If you want a hotter hit than Vapor4Life or longer battery life, then look at the fat battery 510 models like Riva 510 and Ego at Liberty-Flights.com (click the 20% off on front page upper left) but you will be using juice with those. Or if you start with Vapor4Life and want a fat battery model for those cartos see CigEasy's Elegant Easy or LeCig's Pigcig
 
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Filling carts may seem like a hassle and it is, but eventually you will have to if you want to find good juices particularly tobaccos, most of the best juices don't come in prefills, and everyone should have to start by suffering through cart filling.:lol:

Eventually you will get into cartos or dripping, maybe even move into a tank or feeder.
 

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It is overwhelming with all the choices, opinions, and jargon.

I wish I had found this forum before my first purchase. An overpriced 510 kit from a mall kiosk store. I immediately knew that vaping held potential. But it was a major pita to fill cartridges, too expensive to have and fill cartridges. And the cartridges didn't last very long at all. Battery life was not long at all, but hey I was not smoking and still enjoying the benefits of smoking.

Since then I found this forum and have read a bizillion posts. I had tried many types of everything in PVs (personal vaporizers), cartridges, cartomizers, and juices. I now own some modded high-end PVs that have variable voltages. But I wouldn't recommend the high dollar stuff to begin with.

But you don't want to buy cheap. You know the old saying "buy cheap, buy twice". It is definitely true with ecigs.

What I'd recommend to you is an Mega Ego. They look nice, have a great ergonomic feel, and you won't drive/"walk around" looking like you're smoking a ..... The kit comes with two batteries so you can charge one while you using the other. You'll quickly find a routine where you can leave the house with two full batteries every day. I don't know how much you smoke but I was a pack/day smoker and the two batteries would always last me until I got home from work and long commutes. And usually through the evening. The Ego puts a little more voltage than a 510 stick model. This produces more vapor and a better taste, imo.

I would suggest you give cartomizers a try and you fill them yourself. They work longer, last MUCH longer, and are less messy to fill than cartridges. Buying prefilled cartridges you're going to go broke buying them. And you'll use them up before a vendor can ship you new ones, guaranteed. Cartridges are messy and a pain to fill. They never work just right and you're always fiddling with them to get them to work. Using the condom fill method coupled with a taryn spin on a cartomizer is a very quick, non-messy, way to get A LOT of juice into a cartomizer. I can fill a cartomizer faster than I can fill the little problematic cartridges. With an Ego, I'd be looking for 1.8 to 2.5 ohm cartomizers. That ohm range will work well with the 3.7 volts of the Ego. MadeVapes.com is a very good place to buy cartomizers, and other stuff. I'd order one/some of their little 5ml empty bottles to carry juice around with you in a pocket. A cartomer will hold 10 to 15 times the amount of a cartridge. and they don't leak like cartridges do.

I'd also order one of these Ego cases when you order the Ego. Pretty inexpensive and a great way to carry your stuff. A little longer than a pack of 100's cigs. Fits (barely) in jeans front pocket, but better in a jacket pocket. This case looks nice and will hold your Ego, it's spare battery, the 5ml bottle, and a number of cartomizers. Very handy, compact way to carry around everything you need.

Tobacco juice is hard to find that tastes good, and resembles the taste of smoking. My favorite by far is Halo juices. They are expensive but going to be much, much, much cheaper than buying pre-filled cartridges. My favorites are Freedom (Marboro Light like) and Torque56 (more like a Marlboro Red). I now mix my own clones of Freedom and Torque which makes it cheap, because I'm thrifty, LOL. I know a lot of people like the tobacco juices from Backwoods Brew and FreedomSmokesUSA, but Halo is my favorite. 18mg strength is probably a good nic level to start with.

So, there you have it:
- A Mega Ego kit (with spare battery, usb charger, USB wall AC adapter, couple of atomizers and some cartridges)
- Some 1.8 to 2.5 ohm cartomizers (they generally come in five packs. I'd buy a couple of packs).
- A five to ten ml bottle to carry juice.
- Some juice
- An Ego case to conveniently carry your stuff around.
The above is all you need. Compact and organized. This will perform well and you will not outgrow it anytime soon. If you decide ecig vapping is not for you, or you want to try something different, the above would sell easily here on the forum.

I have had nothing but good experiences with all the vendors I linked to in this post (good prices, fast, good customer service). Don't buy too cheap and end up buying twice. I'll never go back to smoking, this is better. Good luck with your vaping!
 
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