Maximum Tobacco-Specific Nitrosamine Levels

[crashinbrn]

i like to carry information about vaping. i download the PDF's and read as much as i can to arm myself against detractors. i ran across a site called smoke vs vapor here: Smoke vs Vapor - Smoke versus Vapor

they have a table of data for tobacco-Specific Nitrosamine Levels. i copied the table and created a spreadsheet with graphs. looking at the numbers on the site, yea i can see the differences but for some i thought it better to see a graphic of what the numbers present.

i put the results here

all i did was import the data that was available on one table at the site, and there were a few more tables to see there too. but i liked what i saw. so i thought i would share.

 

[yvilla]

Nice job Crash!

 

[Thulium]

I have noticed that there seems to be about 1ng of TSNA for every 2mg of pharmaceutical grade nicotine. A 16mg patch has 8ng, while a 2mg piece of Nicorette has just 1ng. In the FDA's study, they found about 8ng/g in a 16mg/g cartridge.

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[crashinbrn]

i put the results from the excel sheet into a page, and i added a graph. mainly because the gum, patch and e-cig were so low.

the page is here.

 

[crashinbrn]

on a side note....i am looking for the numbers for the diethylene glycol. havent seen that number yet. i know it's low enough to be deemed safe...but adding it to this would be a good thing i believe, for the anti-freeze repeaters.

 

[Thulium]

on a side note....i am looking for the numbers for the diethylene glycol. havent seen that number yet. i know it's low enough to be deemed safe...but adding it to this would be a good thing i believe, for the anti-freeze repeaters.

To date, the FDA's preliminary study is the only time diethylene glycol has been detected and only in the cartridge. The only amount cited was "about 1%" in the cartridge itself, but when vaporized into over 10,000 parts air, no study has been able to detect any known toxins or carcinogens in the actual vapor. Considering that glycol vapor is a germicidal air sanitizer, it is likely that exhaled vapor is cleaner than breathing normally. If you consider the physical mechanisms involved, switching from smoking to vaping is like switching from washing your hands with ashes to using antibacterial hand sanitizer--it might not be completely safe in the long term, but its a far cry safer than the activity it replaces.

 

[crashinbrn]

To date, the FDA's preliminary study is the only time diethylene glycol has been detected and only in the cartridge. The only amount cited was "about 1%" in the cartridge itself, but when vaporized into over 10,000 parts air, no study has been able to detect any known toxins or carcinogens in the actual vapor. Considering that glycol vapor is a germicidal air sanitizer, it is likely that exhaled vapor is cleaner than breathing normally. If you consider the physical mechanisms involved, switching from smoking to vaping is like switching from washing your hands with ashes to using antibacterial hand sanitizer--it might not be completely safe in the long term, but its a far cry safer than the activity it replaces.

you and Elaine said the same thing at right about the same time, thank you btw.
but i came up with this

just trying to use their own words against them.
~~EDIT~~
no i need to take out the FDA allowed...it's actually 2% not .2

 

[Vocalek]

The graph makes the nicotine gum total for TSNA look lower than it really is on the basis of a total day's use. It's 2 ng of TSNA per piece of the 4 mg gum. So if you were to follow the directions and chew 10 pieces, that would be 20 ng of TSNAs. Personally, I can't chew that many -- gives me heartburn.

If you were to chew enough pieces to match the 16-18 mg dosage of nicotine in the e-liquid, that would be 4 pieces for a total of 8 nanograms. If you chewed 5 pieces, trying to match the 21 mg. nicotine dose in the patch, that would be a total of 10 nanograms.

 

[crashinbrn]

i assumed the numbers i am graphing was a one use kind of thing. 1 cig, 1 cart and the like. i need to ask then, is the patch a once a day thing?
to be honest i have never tried the patch or gum so i am ignorant of that fact. but if you apply usage to the cigarettes too. for a 2 pack a day smoker(1 year, 61 days, 16 hours, 37 minutes and 14 seconds ago) the numbers can get really scary.