Hey everyone. This mighht be a dumb question but why would you want a mech mod over a regulated vv/vw mod?? I have an istick 50wand i love it... i wanted a regular round mod but all of them are not vv/vw. I just cant figure why you would want a mod that you couldnt control.. please explain pros and cons of each because im confused!!!! Thanks everyone
Mech mod...regulated VV/VW..which is better?????
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first ,as far as vape experience goes,with the spurt of the new vv/vw devices I think that vv/vw devices are better,because of them being consistent..
vs a mech that performance declines as the battery gets used up
reliability,well most mechs can be considered as self defense weapons and virtually easy to fix if in case anything goes wrong...
and its pretty much timeless,unlike vv/vw mods,that eventually something better and better will come out.
first ,as far as vape experience goes,with the spurt of the new vv/vw devices I think that vv/vw devices are better,because of them being consistent..
vs a mech that performance declines as the battery gets used up
reliability,well most mechs can be considered as self defense weapons and virtually easy to fix if in case anything goes wrong...
and its pretty much timeless,unlike vv/vw mods,that eventually something better and better will come out.
Personal preference. Similar to a car. Would you want a standard shift or an automatic? Heck do they even make normal priced standard shifts anymore?
I let my daughter drive my 68 cobra.. well tried... she got in and no clue what was going on. Even after growing up with it.
I let my daughter drive my 68 cobra.. well tried... she got in and no clue what was going on. Even after growing up with it.
I like, and own, both. I like my VW box mod because I can adjust power as I vape throughout the day, change juices, etc. Also, battery life is PHENOMENAL with 2 18650s (like 2 days on a charge good, and I vape 7-15 ml a day).
I love my mechs for their simplicity, how easily they fit in a pocket, and for their ruggedness. No wires, no boards to burn out, no parts to break. Just a metal tube and a switch with a spring. If I take care of them, these things will outlast my kids.
Bottom line, one isn't necessarily better than the other, but they are appropriate for different situations.
I love my mechs for their simplicity, how easily they fit in a pocket, and for their ruggedness. No wires, no boards to burn out, no parts to break. Just a metal tube and a switch with a spring. If I take care of them, these things will outlast my kids.
Bottom line, one isn't necessarily better than the other, but they are appropriate for different situations.
Form factor for a lot of people I think. I like taking my SMPL and goblin out n about for quick trips away from home.
I also keep a few mechs around just in case all my VW boxes die. Or if things get really bad with the vapocolypse, regulated boxes may die and be unable to replace, but as long as I have a supplier for 18650s I'll be fine.
I also keep a few mechs around just in case all my VW boxes die. Or if things get really bad with the vapocolypse, regulated boxes may die and be unable to replace, but as long as I have a supplier for 18650s I'll be fine.
It's simply preference. Try both to figure out what you like. I started out big into mechs, totally switched to vv/vw, and am now back to mechs and won't go back. They're simple and if you learn how to build good coils, the performance is amazing!
Its really preference. I dont believe anyone can say one is better then the other but arguments can be made for both. I don't really like playing around with wattage. For ex sake, when I had the Sig I ALWAYS set it at 4.2v which is what a fully charged mech without v drop would do. I don't adjust my power, I adjust my builds. For me what works best are the Raptor VV chips. I build at right around .3 in my RDAs and I set the Raptor at 4.2 volts and it just outputs 4.2 always. If you are new I would recommend a VW or VV/VW box TBH but if you know about batteries and all that good stuff AND like the simplicity of mech mods I would hazard a guess that a 20amp Raptor box would be your dream vape.
With a mech there are no electronics to short out or die. I can throw my mech on the ground and not worry about the chip breaking. I can throw my mech in the pool or use it when it is raining. I can use it after nuclear war.... the list goes on and on...
Over the years I have assembled a collection that includes some of each. Like many previous posters have pointed out, they all have their strong points. As far as aesthetics go, I appreciate the artistic simplicity of a mechanical tube mod and they are user serviceable with parts available from the hardware store.
Ok thanks forbthe help guys...what mech. Would be best to use with a sub ohm tank...not a hybrid tho
I can’t say which is better as there are many factors that are a matter of personal preference, but I can offer you a few reasons why I prefer mechanical mods to regulated VV/VW devices:
1) Form factor – I regularly use small mechanical mods with 18350 batteries that are easy to pocket and carry around. Although there are regulated devices that take 18350 batteries, they are bigger because they need to include electronics.
2) Durability – like most consumer electronic devices, I believe that a regulated mod is ultimately doomed to fail (even if you baby it and take great care of it). I like that as long as I keep my mechanical mods safe and clean that they will work forever.
3) Simplicity – I like that my mechanical mods are only comprised of a handful of parts and that they’re easy to dismantle and clean. There’s only a single button and no need to scroll through menus and I like that. I typically make 1.3ohm coils and I vape between 10W and 13W throughout the charge of a battery. It really doesn’t matter to me that every puff isn’t the same.
4) Aesthetics – I have a bunch of mechanical mods that employ different materials (SS, brass, copper, and aluminum) and I personally find them more visually appealing than any of the regulated devices that I’ve seen.
2) Durability – like most consumer electronic devices, I believe that a regulated mod is ultimately doomed to fail (even if you baby it and take great care of it). I like that as long as I keep my mechanical mods safe and clean that they will work forever.
3) Simplicity – I like that my mechanical mods are only comprised of a handful of parts and that they’re easy to dismantle and clean. There’s only a single button and no need to scroll through menus and I like that. I typically make 1.3ohm coils and I vape between 10W and 13W throughout the charge of a battery. It really doesn’t matter to me that every puff isn’t the same.
4) Aesthetics – I have a bunch of mechanical mods that employ different materials (SS, brass, copper, and aluminum) and I personally find them more visually appealing than any of the regulated devices that I’ve seen.
Pro's for a Mechanical APV:
Ability to sub-ohm. Early regulated devices were not designed to sub-ohm; recently the higher wattage regulated APV's can vape sub-ohm, but with all of that power the same effect can be obtained with normal resistance coils.
Durability and longevity. With no internal electronics to fail, a mech is considered to be a more durable choice over a regulated APV.
Aesthetics. Many prefer the simple and elegant appearance of a mechanical.
Simplicity. A mechanical is simply a glorified battery holder, fire button, and 510 connector.
Cons for a mechanical APV:Durability and longevity. With no internal electronics to fail, a mech is considered to be a more durable choice over a regulated APV.
Aesthetics. Many prefer the simple and elegant appearance of a mechanical.
Simplicity. A mechanical is simply a glorified battery holder, fire button, and 510 connector.
No processor protection circuitry. This feature protects against many short circuits, reverse battery protection, over-heating, over-discharging the battery, etc. Without this feature, YOU THE USER must be constantly aware of potential dangers of short circuits.
The quality of the vaping experience will gradually and progressively decline over the course of the battery used between charges.
The only way to change the vaping experience is to change the atomizer (coil) resistance.
Pro's for Regulated APV's:The quality of the vaping experience will gradually and progressively decline over the course of the battery used between charges.
The only way to change the vaping experience is to change the atomizer (coil) resistance.
Protection circuitry against short circuits.
Power regulation. You can increase or decrease the voltage or wattage to suit your vaping preference. It will also keep your chosen power output constant regardless of the charge on the battery.
Built-in voltage and resistance meters.
Some regulated mods use a built-in, rechargeable (non-removeable) battery using a common USB charging cable.
Cons of regulated APV:Power regulation. You can increase or decrease the voltage or wattage to suit your vaping preference. It will also keep your chosen power output constant regardless of the charge on the battery.
Built-in voltage and resistance meters.
Some regulated mods use a built-in, rechargeable (non-removeable) battery using a common USB charging cable.
Often not as durable as a mechanical mod, because of the internal electrical components.
Until the advent of the more recent high wattage APV's, they could not power sub-ohm.
Aesthetics. Often not as physically attractive as many of the finer mechanical mods.
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I use both a regulated tube mod and a mechanical tube mod, on a daily basis. I like both, for different reasons. I'm not particularly a fan of the box mods.
Until the advent of the more recent high wattage APV's, they could not power sub-ohm.
Aesthetics. Often not as physically attractive as many of the finer mechanical mods.
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I use both a regulated tube mod and a mechanical tube mod, on a daily basis. I like both, for different reasons. I'm not particularly a fan of the box mods.
Just go look at some mech mods and decide what you like. You wont go wrong getting a Nemesis, Stingray, Vanilla, King Mod or a Caravella. None of them employ hybrid conections and you can obtain four maybe five good quality clones from Fasttech for $50-$80. My personal favroite is the SMPL but it uses a hybrid conection. I got an authentic Phenom last weekend and I love it. They can be had for $150ish authentic. I also have an authentic Nemesis that is soooo gorgeous. I was using that bad girl about forty five minutes ago at the shop and this girl inspected it for about twenty minutes, was on the net she even called someone. When she determined it was real she offered me $200 AND a Vaporshark DNA40 topped with a Lemo II. Mech mods can get pricey if you want authentic devices. Some mods are more sought after then others but you can get clones for a good price at Fasttech. You HAVE to know about batteries and such if you plan to use a mech. Read up for a good while so you have a base understanding of all this stuff. Do not stress your batteries, make sure they are authentic and know the builds that your cells can safely fire. Always check your resistance and make sure there are no shorts. A mech can be such a simple, gorgeous device but please vape safe. Check out Baditudes blogs, smart guy and knows a lot about batteries and vape safety
This is exactly why I have a couple mechs, and probably will end up with a couple more -- to be prepared for a worst-cast scenario with the goobermint. I use Kicks in my mechs, so I do still have the ability to regulate them, but prefer them? Nah, I'm spoiled with having instant ability to check ohms, watts, or battery life remaining, so yeah I prefer my regulated mods -- but if things go really bad for vaping, I may be really glad I have some mechs.
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I just thought I would put this out there cause you seem to be interested in a mech. A great type of device IMO is an unregulated box mod. Some people say its a mech, others do not because it does have a few wires but it essentially operates like a mech in the sense that you can put anything on top, it has no low voltage cut off and minimal other safety features. The benefit of this style of mod is that you have dual batteries usually running in whats called parallel so essentially you are greatly increasing your battery life (which any mech user will tell you is one of the cons if you sub-ohm with a tube mech-the battery life) AND you are also lowering the ammount of amps being drawn from each one of the batteries so you can build lower if you please or you can just have a bit more safety. The other great thing about these boxes is they use a mosfet and while I wont get into this in great detail I will say a mosfet offers a bit more safety again, you can research this very easily for yourself and you really should if you plan to use any of these styles of devices. A lot of these boxes are custom made one at a time and not mass produced so you also are getting a very unique product made by (often times) one individual which has many added benefits over a mass produced mod like say an IPV3. If you like to tinker/build AND you do a lot of research you can easily build one of these boxes yourself and acquire all the parts for very cheap. The information is readily available on the internet and kits for these exact boxes are made for under fifty dollars or you can source individual parts yourself for around the same price. If you do not want to build one but you still like the sound of this type of mod you can easily find a dozen or more people/teams of people making these boxes. While I love a tube mech, I really like the battery life of a dual 18650 unregulated box and the fact that it is quite a bit more 'punchy" then a single battery tube mech IMO. You can have someone make you one in your choice of enclosure, color, switch, internals and you can basically customize every aspect of it from having it bare bones to it having a volt meter and a master on/off switch. These boxes start at $100 usually from what I have seen, I have another one in the mail (come on Monday lol) that I paid $110 for and I also have someone working on another one for me that I will be paying $100 for.
Mechanicals ARE adjustable and controlable.. They are control via the OHMs of the coil. You just have to think about it more.. No idiot buttons to do the work for you. If you want to vape at 60 watts on a mech you build a coil with the correct ohm rate you do it. ON a regulated mod you build almost any coil and run it at almost any wattage. Regulated give a little more flexibility and forgivness for errors.
If your not cloud chasing, or building high power setups, the claims of decreasing performance as the battery dies are highly exaggerated.
If you are interested in just vaping to enjoy vaping it is simple to set up a mech to get plenty if time and still enjoy a nice thick vapor.
I run between .6 and .9 ohms depending on the atty. Funny part is I finally have to pull the battery at the exact same 3.5- 3.4v EVERYONE else has too also. I see very little drop off until that point.
I wake up, pop in a battery, good to go all day with my Kayfun, so that's 3-4 tankfulls in the k4. That night pull the battery while I enjoy my dripper or genesis.
On top of that, if I'm stuck, and can't change batteries right away the vape may seem weaker but UNLIKE a regulated mod that shuts off , it will keep going not leave me cursing that i forgot to charge it last night, So there is that also.
The people complaining about drop off or tearing through batteries, aren't running efficient mech setups.
Its very hard to break a mech.
And, just my opinion, but if anyone thinks a boxmod can touch this kind of sexy, they are tripping lol
Testing an origen coil
Setup right around .7 ish, and will easily run that way for hours.
If you are interested in just vaping to enjoy vaping it is simple to set up a mech to get plenty if time and still enjoy a nice thick vapor.
I run between .6 and .9 ohms depending on the atty. Funny part is I finally have to pull the battery at the exact same 3.5- 3.4v EVERYONE else has too also. I see very little drop off until that point.
I wake up, pop in a battery, good to go all day with my Kayfun, so that's 3-4 tankfulls in the k4. That night pull the battery while I enjoy my dripper or genesis.
On top of that, if I'm stuck, and can't change batteries right away the vape may seem weaker but UNLIKE a regulated mod that shuts off , it will keep going not leave me cursing that i forgot to charge it last night, So there is that also.
The people complaining about drop off or tearing through batteries, aren't running efficient mech setups.
Its very hard to break a mech.
And, just my opinion, but if anyone thinks a boxmod can touch this kind of sexy, they are tripping lol
Testing an origen coil
Setup right around .7 ish, and will easily run that way for hours.
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Cant argur with much of anything thats been said I like both Regulated and Mech My first mod was a Lava tube my next was a big daddy meter box with evercool circuitry dual 18650 Ive always had a thing for box mods especially wood boxes as far as I know I had the first Dual 26650 box mod. I like all of my Mechs I dont think I could pick just one but If I had to it would be a mech cause less chance for it to break
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