Arch, Tinkie, and Pinky I totally agree with this as well, I think what will be the big difference soon will be form, function, asthetics, style, etc. as the new breed of regulated mod is quickly closing the performance gap.
Mechanical mod vs VV\VW mod
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I personally like the form of a mech tube mod such as a Caravela over a box mod such as a iTaste MVP ... but I like like the function of a box over the tube mod.
So, what I did was install a 'Kick' VV module in my Caravela clone. That way I get the form of the mech tube mod [with] the basic function of the box mod (adjustable voltage).
I actually do own both though ... A Caravela clone and an iTaste MVP 2.0 (both are great)
It's nice being able to adjust your voltage for the various ohm coils you use ... That way, if you want, they all can get the same wattage, no matter what the ohms are.
So, what I did was install a 'Kick' VV module in my Caravela clone. That way I get the form of the mech tube mod [with] the basic function of the box mod (adjustable voltage).
I actually do own both though ... A Caravela clone and an iTaste MVP 2.0 (both are great)
It's nice being able to adjust your voltage for the various ohm coils you use ... That way, if you want, they all can get the same wattage, no matter what the ohms are.
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Was never intended to be a "vs." statement at all. I have several regulated mod and several mech mods as well. Love them all, just use them differently that's all. I personally think everyone should have both in their arsenal but that's just me, I'd have a really hard time if someone said I had to make a decision to go one way or the other.
My point about the 30w devices was not that everyone was disappointed by them, it just seems that there are a fair number of folks that expected them to perform differently than they do. When you think about it, if you are running a 1.3ohm topper which will fire on any device something like a Vamo or MVP 2 ($40) can give you 15w. An authentic Hana will cost you $250+ but will push 30w. Some have been disappointed that's all I meant.
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Since these DNA 30 clones are coming out, I'm hesitant to make the jump to mech mods till more of these come out...although i'm looking at a turtleship v2 clone that's very tempting on eBay.
FLT, great pic and good points. The MVP performs, no doubt, but I don't anyone would call it "beautiful" whereas the Caravela certainly is in my eyes. I own a Duke which I love, it's a very simple box mod with no lights or readouts at all. It's, IMO, the best street fighter available. I also own an authentic Electric Angel which is sleek and beautiful. I use them differently and love them both so not an either or discussion.
I know what you mean, the idea of getting "Hana" experience for $65 is really exciting. I'll probably pick one up myself but trying to wait for the second rev to see if there are bugs with the first batch. Turtleship is a great mod just make sure you try and buy the clone you want from a buyer that seems reputable if using eBay. Really don't think you could go very far wrong with either or both for the money.
And I know my Kick module in my Caravela has a minimum coil ohms it can run (about 1.4 ohms), and also the iTaste MVP also has a lower limit of around the same ohms as the Kick ... but I just bear that in mine and make coils that are at least 1.6 ohms or slightly greater.
No problems that way. At least I'm happy
In fact, the coil I am using now in my SvoëMesto Kayfun Lite is Kanthal 28 AWG with 1.7 ohms ... I feed it 3.8v which is equal to 8.5 watts. That seems just able right for me (not too hot / not too cold).
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On the other hand, I need to feed my Kanger Aerotank 4.3v due to the difference in coil ohms.
No problems that way. At least I'm happy
In fact, the coil I am using now in my SvoëMesto Kayfun Lite is Kanthal 28 AWG with 1.7 ohms ... I feed it 3.8v which is equal to 8.5 watts. That seems just able right for me (not too hot / not too cold).
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On the other hand, I need to feed my Kanger Aerotank 4.3v due to the difference in coil ohms.
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Tell that to my 2 years old svoemestos/kayfuns with Nivels!
Not a hiccup.
When the coils get cruddy,I just hop the wattage .2 or .4 and voila,back to vaping bliss.
I support the VV/VW afficionados,I dont see why mechs are still popular.
Measuring coils ohms....bwahahahahaha...stone age stuff.
I have no personal experience with regulated mods, because I went straight from the unsatisfying eGo rigs to a mech and RBA. I've of course seen the regulated mods, being used in public, and I asked one woman what that was. She stuck her nose in the air, and in an annoyed tone told me "It's a Provari" She got totally snotty with me after that.
Okay, I think I know what I don't want...
My mech has served me very well since that day.
RDA: Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer (no tank)
RBA: ReBuildable Atomizer - usually used to mean an RTA, like genesis and Kayfun, but also used to include both RDAs and RTAs
RTA: Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - rebuildable and has a tank.
I just discovered there are kick adapters that you can screw onto the top of your mech and drop the kick in there!!
As for vapor and clouds
I can fire my Provari on a .8 ohm wrap at 2.9 - 3 volts. I get plenty of flavor and vapor.
At the house, a .35 Patriot on a mech, and get more.
Aside from the vapor, is there a huge difference in flavor?
Not that I can tell.
It's the difference between a big scoop of ice cream and eating straight of the ladle.
I can fire my Provari on a .8 ohm wrap at 2.9 - 3 volts. I get plenty of flavor and vapor.
At the house, a .35 Patriot on a mech, and get more.
Aside from the vapor, is there a huge difference in flavor?
Not that I can tell.
It's the difference between a big scoop of ice cream and eating straight of the ladle.
Correct! They max out at like 15w I think. Good catch!
Don't know what I was thinking, sorry about that.
I just discovered there are kick adapters that you can screw onto the top of your mech and drop the kick in there!!
I remember reading somewhere that there are limitations with these topper kicks, I know Grimmgreen mentioned the same in one of his vids. Many mechs will take a kick internally either by just adjusting or by adding rings, I use them when running RBAs on my mechs and they work great.
Goss who created the Duke also showed how to make one. SO when I say Duke clone, I really should say a Duke inspired mod box as that translates better. It's currently the most powerful VV device out there but is somewhat a pain in the rear to build but for me was worth it. It's pretty basic and has nothing fancy. No LED screen and only a knob to turn for power but man does it hit and really consistant. It's so good I haven't touched any of my mechs or the VAMO.
Yup, what Planes said. No frills, knock down, street fighter. Runs stacked 18650s, no fancy lights, buttons or whistles. A simple 510 connection and a recessed dial on top (isn't even marked) to adjust and a very clicky trigger fire button.
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