mechanical mod question

[LeeW]

So I am a mechanical kinda guy anyways......

trying to do research on mech mods to little success. I understand i would be the safety feature, what else do i need to know for mechs?
Also i think i may have asked this else where but will LR dripping attys work with just a ego or would i need a twist at very least?

thx guys

 

[John_]

Ohms Law, Ohms Law, Ohms Law, oh and Ohms Law. vaping is all about Ohms Law. Voltage, resitance, wattage, current, these are all things you need to know very well especially if you're going to get into mechs. Learn how all of these things work together and your journey into the mech world will be much easier.

As far as the LR atty on an ego, the problem with eGo's is that they have a relatively low amp(current) limit, the larger (1000+mah) have a limit of 3 Amps I think? So when you put an LR atty on there you can hit that limit pretty easily which is dangerous. When you're pulling more current (or trying to pull more current) than a battery can handle it damages the battery. If you're going to put an LR atty on an eGo, find an Ohms Law calculator and figure out what kind of current you're going to potentially be drawing and then look up the specs of the eGo you have and see if it can handle that.

Oh and I'm sure I didn't answer everything you were asking, so keep asking. PM me or keep posting here if you want.

 

[RubyRoo]

Please, please, please keep asking questions, do searches, and watch a ton of videos to learn about Ohms Law, amp limits, wattage, voltage, and resistance. Battery safety is so important and very necessary if you are getting into mech mods. Be careful and do your research! Grimm has a great video about battery safety here: THE NOVICE + BATTERIES + SAFETY - YouTube KCAVO!

 

[LeeW]

so would the same go for lr cartos as well on the ego? I mean i a ton here using carto tanks on ego styles so the egos must be ok for them no? or is sr needed?

 

[StarDose]

Did you mean slr or LR? LR is generally 1.5-1.8 ohm which is a safe resistance for ego batteries.

 

[LeeW]

As far as the LR atty on an ego, the problem with eGo's is that they have a relatively low amp(current) limit, the larger (1000+mah) have a limit of 3 Amps I think? So when you put an LR atty on there you can hit that limit pretty easily which is dangerous.

& then

Did you mean slr or LR? LR is generally 1.5-1.8 ohm which is a safe resistance for ego batteries.

LR &
both above seems contradictory more opinions to help me sort it ?

 

[John_]

Again, it is possible for them to work, you just need to take current into consideration. You need to find out the amp limit of the battery you're using. NEVER go above what the battery can handle. Some eGos do have protection built in and will not fire lower resistance coils, the majority of variable voltage and variable wattage devices will not fire on coils below a certain resistance because it will put them above their amp limit. The majority of variable devices will fire coils above 1.8 ohms but depending on the voltage selected they will ignore you and fire at the highest voltage they can without going over their amp limit.

Think of current(amperage) as the amount of water flowing through a river. Some devices can only handle a certain amount of water at once. Voltage would be the force of the water running down the river, and resistance would be any obstructions in the river such as rocks. If somebody has a better or more accurately analogy please say it.

Ohm's Law Calculator
1.0 Ohm coil at 4.8 Volts will draw 4.8 Amps
1.5 Ohm coil at 4.8 Volts will draw 3.2 Amps
2.0 Ohm coil at 4.8 Volts will draw 2.4 Amps

 

[John_]

Did you mean slr or LR? LR is generally 1.5-1.8 ohm which is a safe resistance for ego batteries.

& then
LR &
both above seems contradictory more opinions to help me sort it ?

Don't think of LR and SR they don't matter, get the resistance of the coil and then see if your battery can handle that at the voltage you want.

 

[LeeW]

well i didnt even get a manuel lol &google truns up to much non sense is there a list of ego specs on here some where ? I ,,mean i have no idea of how much watts this lil thing put out or amps lol all i kno is the ce4 that came with it is a LR tank atomizer & just kinda need to kno what will work on that other then these dang clearos costly clearos . I want wat can be handled by both a manual ego & a twist safely but dont have the time to really read thru days of junk finds on google. LOL its almost 3am here n i suppose to go to work in 4 hours.

As far as the mechs yeah i am research the ohms law thing but guess i was hoping for more of a guide or section on ecf that talked more indepth about them.

 

[John_]

On your ego, stay above 1.5 Ohms and you'll be fine. As for mechs, I would watch rebuildable atomizer videos on youtube. Keep watching Grimms videos. Watch Pbusardo's as well.

 

[LeeW]

lol did you see phills last video the POS mod you gotta check it out if you havent lol 2nd to newest i think

 

[John_]

Haha yeah, it took me a second before I realized what was going on. Did you see his video on the LegalVape 4000? I had trouble breathing I was laughing so hard.

 

[LeeW]

i will have to look that up i saw the april fools one with the vamo in tin foil lol

 

[John_]

You should, it's hilarious. Yeah the April Fools one was good. He would've had me but I was cautious, being April 1st and all.

 

[LeeW]

is there a mechanmical mod section on ecf? i seen the model specific area like for egos n vamos ect but is there a general section for mech mods that i have overlooked? I really want to do research on them

 

[patrao_n]

First look at baditudes blogs. I am sure he will pop in here soon anyways though. Also the general section for mods is the apv section. It has both vv type and mech type mods in it though. I am currently using a clone of the sentinel m16. Works pretty well. The most important part if your mod will be the battery. Only use high drain imr chemistry or hybrid chemistry batteries. For instance I use aw branded imr batteries. I chose the 18650 1600 mah battery because of the 24 amp continuos drain. Your next important thing is having a multimeter. Never use a coil thats not been checked for shorts.

Also never drain your battery below 3 volts. Doing so causes damage to the battery. And most batteries I believe are rendered useless and destructive at 2.7 volts. Never charge a battery thats gone below that voltage. Recycle it and cut your losses.

You also need a reliable charger. Nitecore, pila, and xtar are good chargers. Its dangerous to have your charger overcharge the batteries. I am sure I have missed a few things. But take a look at baditude's blogs and also the apv section.

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[madqatter]

As far as the mechs yeah i am research the ohms law thing but guess i was hoping for more of a guide or section on ecf that talked more indepth about them.

Here's some of the info I share with folks considering mechs or folks who have recently purchased mechs without doing any background research first:

Before getting a mech mod, it's very important to do your homework. Read the rechargeable batteries page, Baditude's blogs, read up on mechanical mod safety, watch some videos on mechanical maintenance, own a multimeter and use it to regularly test your batteries, atomizers, and mod. Remember, with a mech mod, you're the safety feature. If you're going to do it, do it carefully.

Before getting my mechs, I did a lot of reading and video watching, soaking up as much info as I could and creating a personal checklist for use and maintenance (even for unboxing, when I tested the mods for shorts and did the balloon test on the vents). And I'm not even doing anything with my mechs that approaches the amp limits of my batteries.

As for what's available here on ECF, make sure you stop into the ECF Library. My links above are not exhaustive, just examples. There's a lot more thorough information available in the library, such as the article about reversing polarity (it can be done, but don't do it, the article explains why). I know the ECF mods have more currently in the works, but not how long it will take to complete. There's also a lot of great material in the blogs.

 

[LeeW]

thanks madqatter & patrao n every one . the links will help alot Like a said in op i just trying to get a starting point for the research I wouldnt be buying a mech till jan or feb of next year but I want to be sure i know what i am doing, at least enough to be safe using it, thats why i asking about them now instead of waiting till i wish to make the purchase.

 

[John_]

Do you have a price range in mind?

 

[LeeW]

Do you have a price range in mind?

up to about 100bucks, john, for the mech by then (jan/Feb 2014). And again I am just starting to look at mechs as a future purchase, safety & all. I would personally love it Keith at empire had his back in stock by then I love the look & versatility of both bats & toppers that can be used. I have seen a few other mech mods but not really been looking as of yet.
I was looking at say the twist vv vrs say the x6 as a back up/alt to my only bat(900mah AUTO ego style). Between that & researching & watching reviews on tanks I havent had a real chance to check out all the various mechs yet. Which is another reason that purchase is so far off. I like these standalone cartos my buddy gave me so i am pretty sure i will have to find INSTOCK tanks as i am leery of ebay lol. I will prob just order a couple of Ibtanks after thanksgiving & call it good for tanks lol
Being so new to vaping I love have this forum to bounce ideas off of others thats progressed from where i am at now. I will be getting a mvp2 around Christmas. so by then I should have absorbed enough info to not feel so noobish lol

John dose "4.2 volts normal operating" sound right for an auto "ego-style" batt? i mean the twist only goes to what 4.8? I ask as i looked it up from the dealer i got my lil "kit" from. i thought they should run lower then that, mybe i am mistaken?