If you figure out the thread pitch on your mod, you may find that there are hybrid adapters available for quite a few. I got hybrid adapters for 20x1 threading (Gus/Paps+++) and Nemesis mods, which also fit my Nanos.
Mechs vs Regulated: Where are they going this year?
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If you figure out the thread pitch on your mod, you may find that there are hybrid adapters available for quite a few. I got hybrid adapters for 20x1 threading (Gus/Paps+++) and Nemesis mods, which also fit my Nanos.
I didn't know that, thanks! To be honest, I just want the SMPL clone because my Tree of Life's switch is kind of crappy. The locking ring likes to jam a lot and it's covered in scratches from when my Veritas clone would glue itself to the top of my mech. Plus I really, really want a copper mod.
The idea that you "aren't getting anything for your money" is the wrong way to look at it. Clones are IP theft and counterfeiting. These things are illegal in the US, and unethical everywhere. Ethical buyers should not be supporting this, period.
They are not illegal my any means. Please, provide a patent or copyright example if you wish to argue this point. You wont find any.
I also think it depends on the "clone." If they are using the same logo and duplicating it directly, I guess you have a point, ethically, but not legally. The vast majority of clones are simply doing the same thing "authentics" do -- You take a very simple design and duplicate it. I can think of very few examples where copyright law might actually apply...the ethical argument is tired, and doesn't really hold up.
IMHO, the eCig market is unusual in terms of loyalty to brand name products. We're talking about basic mechanical function, not major R&D. Just because a manufacturer is small and limited in production capacity does not mean it deserves to stay in business. One could argue it is unethical to charge several hundred dollars for basic flashlight technology. It's sad that people feel ethically obligated to shell out so much money under the weak premise of "authentic" engineering. Use what works. If it gets you off the cigs, it's fundamentally ethical. Period.
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Small, feature rich, higher wattage mods for < $50.00
Feature rich attys for < $40.00
Mechs are metal tubes so they'll stick around
The heady heydays (i.e. 2013-14) of $200+ tanks and mods will dwindle.
It's simple math and inventory management for vendors:
Do I buy the one Authentic $200 SvM KF4 that few people will buy. (SKU that doesn't turn frequently)
Or do I spend that same $200 on 6-8 KF4 clones that many will buy (SKU that turns many times.)
Inventory that sits costs money.
Though some will adapt or hang on, many former "Big Name Players" will be overtaken
As examples look no further than: Kayfun 4 clones were in stock faster than the authentics or P3's inability to fire Kanger's/Aspire's new "big hit" (pun intended) stock tanks or everything Joytech/Eleaf has been doing.
Now is the time for many of the players we've come to know to get creative or fade.
And you want to talk about saturation.....anyone know where i can find a good strawberry flavored ejuice?
(Trick question. Answer: EVERYWHERE)
Feature rich attys for < $40.00
Mechs are metal tubes so they'll stick around
The heady heydays (i.e. 2013-14) of $200+ tanks and mods will dwindle.
It's simple math and inventory management for vendors:
Do I buy the one Authentic $200 SvM KF4 that few people will buy. (SKU that doesn't turn frequently)
Or do I spend that same $200 on 6-8 KF4 clones that many will buy (SKU that turns many times.)
Inventory that sits costs money.
Though some will adapt or hang on, many former "Big Name Players" will be overtaken
As examples look no further than: Kayfun 4 clones were in stock faster than the authentics or P3's inability to fire Kanger's/Aspire's new "big hit" (pun intended) stock tanks or everything Joytech/Eleaf has been doing.
Now is the time for many of the players we've come to know to get creative or fade.
And you want to talk about saturation.....anyone know where i can find a good strawberry flavored ejuice?
(Trick question. Answer: EVERYWHERE)
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Ethical buyers are supporting what the market wants.
The market is us.
And we buy clones in droves.
I'm not arguing your point (which I agree with). The clone "Fruit Rings" I buy at the grocery store doesn't have Toucan Sam on the box--nor do I need it to.
However:
The fact that I can buy a KF4 clone for $25 before an authentic is even in stock shows:
1) The relative cost of the materials that make up the actual device---it's $10-15 worth of CNC machined metal, glass and o-rings. If you get your model right and maintain your tooling the quality is equivalent to the authentic.
2) SvM needs to reevaluate their go-to-market strategy
3) Spending $200 bucks may make me feel better for "supporting" SvM but because of #'s 1 & 2 I'm actually not.
Just because I can make designer, hand laid, monogrammed toilet paper,personalized for an individual's posterior---doesn't mean the market will accept it especially given you can buy .... wipe for a couple of bucks that will do the same thing.
(BTW: You can buy my "Honey Lick Bathroom Tissue" on my website at $30.00/roll. Estimated delivery time 3-4 weeks after receipt of your gluteal dimensions. Please hold your BM's until it arrives!)
By buyers I assume you include vendors.
Vendors will stock inventory that turns often over that which doesn't or they won't stay in business long.
Manufacturers that understand this will adapt and survive. Those that don't will suffer.
You want to point a finger, start with us.
Then point at the manufacturer's that don't understand the very people they're trying to sell to--the market---us.
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I've decided to stop using mechs this year. I don't like the idea of charging batteries that read 3.8v. I don't like the hassle of discharging them so that I can charge them. Regulated device is all I'm interested in. Since I don't vape below .5 ohms I don't see a need for a mech.
Not sure what you're saying here. I never do anything else to my batteries than charge and vape'em. Storage charging is for expensive LiPos, imho.
I mainly vape at ~0.8 ohms, and all I use is mechs.
To me it doesn't make sense (for me) to carry around an extra cubic inch or two worth of electronics and displays when I get what I want from what I have. Then again I enjoy boiling things down to basics. A button, a wick, a coil and an electronic pathway is really all I want.
Lol
I think you need some up to date information on IMR batteries.
IMR batteries don't require a discharge before recharging.
You can top off the charge.
Then again, if you aren't fully informed about batteries and safety, you should probably stick to regulated devices.
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