Mega ONE CLR atomizer - HELP

[zarvay]

Fellow vapers,

Considering the fact that I am new to the vaping scene and my first device was the joyetech eVic VT ($48,50 on sale), I am a little bit confused with the compatibility of wires and atomizers, along with the coil build.

Here's a few questions I'd like some help with:

1. Can I use Ni and Ti wires with the regular CLR atomizer, or should i user the Kanthal wire? I've put a Ni wire in the CLR atomizer and use it in WV. Can this cause any device problems?
2. Does the CLR atomizer work only in VW and should not be used in VT? I've tried to put it in VT mode, but it always maxes out at 30W.
3. Does a CLR-Ni atomizer exist? I've only found the CLR-Ti atomizer online, and couldn't find the CLR-Ni.
4. If I bought the 0.5 ohm CLR, what would happen if I build a coil that is around 1 ohm, or not close to 0.5 ohms?

Thanks in advance.

Z.

 

[puffon]

Can this cause any device problems?

I can answer this one.

It will cause health problems.
Do not use Ni200 in wattage mode, TC only.

 

[zoiDman]

Hi zarvay. Welcome to the ECF.

1 - You can Use either Ni or Ti Wire in your Atomizer. But as mentioned, Ni should ONLY be used when you are in TC Mode. In VW Mode, you can use Ti or Stainless Steel or Kanthal or NiChrome.

2 - The CLR Atomizer will work just fine in VT. As long as there is either Ni or Ti wire in it. If you use any Ni Wire, you Have To Use it in Temperature Control Mode.

3 - I'm not sure? I have only seen CLR-Ti heads. I think they went this way so you can use them either in TC or in VW Mode.

4 - You can Build a .5 ohm CLR to any Ohms that you Mod can Handle. That is what makes them so Nice. You can fine tune the Hit you want by changing the Ohms. I like to build mine around .8 ~ 1.2 Ohms. Depending on the e-Liquid Flavor I plan to use.

Hope this Helps. And Once Again, Welcome to the ECF.

 

[zoiDman]

BTW - Love that Picture of the Dog in your Avatar.

 

[zarvay]

Thank you for the detalied explanation. It means a lot!

I still have problems...

I've bought this CLR head and used the rebuilt Ni coil. When I combined the two, and tried the TC in Ni mode, it always maxed out the Wattage and after a few minutes switche to VW mode by itself. I did some research online and found this site.

Is it possible that I cannot use the CLR in Ni mode but only in WV mode with Kanthal, and if I want to use TC with a CLR, I have to get the CLR-Ti. To use TC with Ni, I have to buy the CL-Ti which is not rebuildable.

I'm really confused here and don't really know which way to go. I'm putting some Kanthal wire in the regular CLR mode and I'm not going to use TC mode until I know for sure what to do and which atomizer to use.

P.S. It's not my dog, but when I get one in a few years, I'm dressing him up just like that!

 

[zarvay]

UPDATE:

When I put in TC mode with the Ni wire and hold the fire button for about 4-5 seconds, it automatically switches to VW mode...

 

[zoiDman]

Thank you for the detalied explanation. It means a lot!

I still have problems...

I've bought this CLR head and used the rebuilt Ni coil. When I combined the two, and tried the TC in Ni mode, it always maxed out the Wattage and after a few minutes switche to VW mode by itself. I did some research online and found this site.

Is it possible that I cannot use the CLR in Ni mode but only in WV mode with Kanthal, and if I want to use TC with a CLR, I have to get the CLR-Ti. To use TC with Ni, I have to buy the CL-Ti which is not rebuildable.

I'm really confused here and don't really know which way to go. I'm putting some Kanthal wire in the regular CLR mode and I'm not going to use TC mode until I know for sure what to do and which atomizer to use.

P.S. It's not my dog, but when I get one in a few years, I'm dressing him up just like that!

I'm a Little Confused of what you Have and what you Read because the Links didn't work.

What TC Mod are you Using? And does the Mod say the Ohms are for the Ni Coil that is giving you problems?

 

[zoiDman]

Also: What type of wire do you Currently have? And what Gauge is it? And what Ohm's are you wanting to build too?

 

[KenD]

The regular clr heads should work fine with nickel wire (and titanium), mine do. Are you sure that you're using ni200 and not nichrome? The other thing I can think if is that you might not have secured the coil legs good enough. That might cause resistance fluctuations that kick you out of tc, possibly.

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[zarvay]

If it's not too much of a problem, I'd like to go kill myself. Looks like I haven't read the specification on the prebuilt wires (Kanthal).

I just got some Ni wire and when I get home I'll build a coil from it and try out the TC. I'll let you know how it goes when I test it.

What kind of Ni or Ti wire should I use for TC or are all of them fine?

Again, thanks so so so much for all the help!!

Z.

 

[KenD]

For ni200 wire I prefer 28 gauge for single coils. Get tempered wire if you can find it, much easier to use. The Evic can handle lower resistances so 26 gauge should work, but it might be difficult to trap the coil legs properly. I prefer titanium nowadays. Make sure that you get grade 1 (not the sweet spot vapor stuff). I like 28 gauge, but that's just my preference. Any ni200 and titanium grade 1 should be fine.

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[zarvay]

I managed to get some Ni200 (pretty sure it's grade 1) 32 gauge. Is it possible to get about 0,8 - 1,2 Ohm resistance from it for the CLR?

 

[KenD]

I managed to get some Ni200 (pretty sure it's grade 1) 32 gauge. Is it possible to get about 0,8 - 1,2 Ohm resistance from it for the CLR?

Ni200 is pure nickel so it doesn't have grades. It's with titanium that you need to be careful as there are many grades. 32 gauge ni200 is fine, though too thin for my liking. Nickel is a very low resistance wire so it'll be practically impossible to reach .8 or higher (would require over 30 wraps). .3 is about the highest you can hope for. That's ok, tc is designed to operate with those kind of low resistances and the Evic can go as low as .05. Check the coil wrapping calculator at steam-engine.org to design your coils.

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[zoiDman]

I managed to get some Ni200 (pretty sure it's grade 1) 32 gauge. Is it possible to get about 0,8 - 1,2 Ohm resistance from it for the CLR?

I don't think 32ga Ni200 @ even 0.8 Ohms wouldn't be Possible. Because you would need about 29 Wraps for 2.5mm Diameter Coil.

Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

Having to work with such Small Wire and having to Build at Very Low Ohms that can Only be Used in TC Mode is why Many People moved to using Titanium Grade 1 Wire.

Because with Titanium Grade 1 Wire, you can use Wire that is about the Same Thickness as Kanthal or NiChrome. And you can Run it in Either TC or VW Mode. Ni200 should ONLY be run in TC Mode.

If I was you, I would buy a Pack of these eGo One Ti CLR Heads to get up and Running. And to use to Try TC to see if it is something that you like. And want to keep running.

eGo ONE CLR VT Ti Coils

You might find that you like VW Mode better using either Kanthal A1 or NiChrome 80.

 

[zarvay]

eGo ONE CLR VT Ti Coils

I have those CLRs. I think I'm just going to get Titanium Grade 1 Wire (26 gauge I'm guessing?) and try to build coils until I get it right.

For now I'm using prebuilt Kanthal wires and they work well enought (I got some Kanthal gauge 36 as well to build), but I feel as if the the original CL coils were much much better at producing flavor. I'll try to see how the Ti and Ni wires work with TC.

Would it be a good idea to use 32 gauge at 2.5 mm diameter for a 0,2 Ohm (7 wraps)?

 

[zoiDman]

Here is what I did when I first got into Building my own Coils.

I looked at a Pre-Build Coil that I have Used and like the Best, then I put all the Info into that Steam Calculator as best I could.

Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

Then I set the Watts that it Tasted Best at. And I looked at the "Heat Flux" value to the Right of the Watts. This because my Baseline. And I used it to Compare to how Other Builds would look. And at what Watts I would have to set my Mod to get to about the same Heat Flux.

When you build on an eGo One CLR, you Can't build a coil that has too Many Wraps because it just Won't Physically Fit into the CLR Body. So you need to Limit the Amount of Wraps to No More than say 8. And coils with 4 or Less Wraps don't Work all that Great. So 6 or 7 would probably be a Good Target for eGo One CLR.

I also don't like to use any wire Thinner than 32ga because the Coil tends to be to Flimsy.

So when I plug in the Ohms I want, I look at the Amount of Wraps it is going to Take. And if the Wraps are more than 7, I have to use a Thinner wire. I'm also keeping my eye on the Heat Flux. Because there will be Times when the Wraps and the Ohms fall into place, but the Heat Flux is Smoking Hot. Or is Very Cool.

Also consider that TC tends to work Better and more Reliable as the Ohms get Lower. Verses the Ohms getting Higher. So if the Ohm Range for TC Mode is say 0.05 - 1.0 ohm, I'd like to be around the Middle of the Range or on the Little Lower side of the Middle.

Your going to have to spend a Little Time plugging in Numbers. But you'll get there.

 

[zarvay]

Thank you all for your input. You've been extremely helpful and I wish you all the best!

Much love from Croatia!

Z.