Method of removing extreme flavor linger (in attys)

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WannaGetHealthy

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I'm shocked and amazed but here is my story:

I dabble in DIY juices. I ordered some "coffee extra" from TPA and the reviews recommended percentages anywhere from 10-15%. I mixed at 10%, dripped, and what I got was like concentrated burnt coffee + unwashed .... flavor. I can not express how horrible this taste was. First I blew out the atty and cleaned the PV in case a little bit might have gone through the atty. I dripped some unflavored VG, cigar puffed, and what I got was less concentrated burnt coffee + unwashed .... (the VG really brought out the unwashed .... flavor)........not an improvement IMO. I removed the atty, flooded with VG, blew it out, repeated, dripped a couple drops of VG and no improvement. Then I tried the same steps with PG, no improvement. I shrugged and soaked it in PGA overnight. The next morning, I blew it out until dry and already I could smell the coffee death radiating from the atty. Just to satisfy my curiosity, I dripped a little PG to make sure (I guess I am a masochist?) and got a slightly reduced version of coffee death + unwashed ..... I rinsed it out with alcohol one more time and tossed it on the bathroom counter and forgot about it.

One week later I run out of juice in the feed bottle of my REO and decide it was time I cleaned my atty while I am at it. I blew it out, filled up, washed my DT and reassembled. I primed up with some of the banana juice I was currently enjoying and took a fresh pull........of banana + a hint of coffee. I had grabbed the wrong atty :facepalm:. I re cleaned the coffee death atty, recleaned the DT, kicked myself for ordering the same color "testing" atty as my regular use atty, reassembled using the correct atty, primed and left the house for a buddies house about 45 min away. About 5 min from the house I got a hint of coffee taste and I laughed it off thinking I was imagining it. 10 after that I was certain I was tasting burnt coffee with the banana. It kept getting stronger and stronger the more I vaped! It tasted horrible! The atty (4 or 5 times cleaned with alcohol ) had contaminated my mod from that one quick exposure!!!! When I got to my friends house I borrowed some rubbing alcohol and cleaned the mod and DT and installed my back up atty on my key chain. Thank god the coffee taste wasn't permanent on my REO......and I pocketed the coffee death atty, intending to shoot the thing next time I went to the shooting range for the sake of humanity.

Fast forward to a few days ago. Someone in the chat room mentioned that they were vaping PGA to clean their atty. Um........I wasn't so hot on the idea. First you are heating alcohol, which can be dangerous, second, even though the guy said he was cigar puffing it, no way am I inhaling alcohol vapors, even just in to my mouth, and I do not condone this activity, Third, even if you did drip a little PGA and vaped it, you wouldn't be removing anything. Any of the flavors/chems that can be dissolved by the alcohol would just condense back on to what ever surface the alcohol drys from . I got to thinking about it though and I was wondering why the PGA and rubbing alcohol didn't remove the coffee death flavor. It is an alcohol soluble flavoring....so why the linger? Then I thought to myself that maybe a little heat with the alcohol couldn't hurt the dissolving power of the PGA....might even help it...who knows? Instead of just dipping a little alcohol in the atty where it would run though, I made a seal around the coffee death atty where it connects to the battery and practically filled it up with PGA. I cooked it until it boiled, and then dumped it out. I did this three times, rinsed, dried.....and low and behold it actually worked. I can't smell coffee out of it, I can't taste coffee....it's like a new atty all together. I realize that someone probably already does this and I might have found it if I had read far enough in the forums.....heck, I doubt there is an original method of doing anything vapewise anymore, but I figured I'd reshare this info in case anyone else needed it.
 

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Great post.

The coffee extra clear can NOT be used in that high of a concentration, unless you are just insane LOL. I find 1 drop per 3-4ML is MORE then enough to give a coffee flavor that tastes very similar to fresh brewed coffee. Absolutely do not need high percentages of this flavor to taste it..if you are using ejuice me up, calculate it at .5%..

Gotta try this method of cleaning cause i recently created an RY4 and coconut flavor that will not go away.

One question tho, how did you make a seal around the atty and battery??
 

WannaGetHealthy

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Great post.

The coffee extra clear can NOT be used in that high of a concentration, unless you are just insane LOL. I find 1 drop per 3-4ML is MORE then enough to give a coffee flavor that tastes very similar to fresh brewed coffee. Absolutely do not need high percentages of this flavor to taste it..if you are using ejuice me up, calculate it at .5%..

Gotta try this method of cleaning cause i recently created an RY4 and coconut flavor that will not go away.

One question tho, how did you make a seal around the atty and battery??

Yeah, upon sharing this story with some folks who also DIY, i was told 1% was plenty and a half. I'd like to track down those people who reviewed the flavor on TPA and....well......nevermind :p. Anyway, the way I made the seal was like this:

The mod I used for this was not a bottom feeder type, so there was no where for the PGA to go except through the vent holes around the base of the connection....where the air comes from when you vape? Well they are very accessible on the provari and the atty base sits flush with the rest of the connection. So I wrapped a wide rubber band around area with the vent holes. It wasn't a perfect seal and I had to apply a little manual pressure to keep the PGA from leaking from one of the holes, but it worked well enough for my purposes. I imagine it could work just as well or maybe better with a standard 510 PT. PGA will start to boil REAL quick....like maybe 1-2 sec even at 8 watts, so it's not like the seal has to hold indefinitely. I'm so glad this worked......the atty I was trying to rescue was one of my IKV 510 LRs and there isn't always stock of these babies. I'm still not exactly comfortable with "cooking" PGA. The more I think about it, the more dangerous it seems to me. In principle, so long as there is enough liquid, the heat from the atty *shouldn't* set it off, but a spark from something else could have been real bad. I won't be doing this on a regular basis. If I ever have to do this again, I'll be doing it outside and have a fire extinguisher on hand, or maybe I'll use an electric hot plate with a tiny pan of PGA, again, outside and with a fire extinguisher on hand.
 
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