MFS Nic Sale 1 L 100 mg/ml $40

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Drewfus

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Question: So what VG/PG nic mix do "most" people buy and why? I am thinking of grabbing a Liter of the nic and some other goodies to experiment with some DIY juices. I'm using clearos for now, but would like to try an rda or two.
When I actually get enough time to sit down and learn the ins and outs of mixing my own juices, DIY looks a lot more cost effective.
I can see dripping getting to be expensive with store-bought juices!
 

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Question: So what VG/PG nic mix do "most" people buy and why? I am thinking of grabbing a Liter of the nic and some other goodies to experiment with some DIY juices. I'm using clearos for now, but would like to try an RDA or two.
When I actually get enough time to sit down and learn the ins and outs of mixing my own juices, DIY looks a lot more cost effective.
I can see dripping getting to be expensive with store-bought juices!

What nic level do you vape at? If you use, for example 10mg, then only 10% of your mix will be from the nic base. If you get 50/50, then only 5% will be PG, and 5% will be VG, so you can blend up to 95/5 mixtures either way.

Or you could just get a liter of each ;-)
 

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Question: So what VG/PG nic mix do "most" people buy and why?

PG keeps the nicotine "fresher" longer and being less viscous it is easier to work with, so if your mix allows it*, you should stick with PG.

*Why wouldn't it be "allowed," you ask? Consider the following: you want your final mix to be 70/30 VG (70% VG/30% PG) at 18mg nic. You know you need 20% flavoring, and the flavors are PG-based. If the nic base you're working with is 60mg, then you cannot achieve this with pure PG-based nic. To achieve an 18mg mix from 60mg nic, it needs to comprise 30% of the final mix. But if that's all PG, and you only want 30% PG overall, then you have to fill the other 70% with pure VG, and that leaves no room for the 20% PG-based flavorings. In this case, you would need to use a different carrier for your nic base and/or a higher concentration, to achieve the desired 70/30 ratio.
 

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PG keeps the nicotine "fresher" longer

I did not know this.

Do you have some research I can read up on? Very Interesting.

I know Pg is a good for germs etc. But I did not know it help nic stay "Fresher." I thought nic's worst enemies were air, heat and sunlight.

I began my DIY journey in 2009. Never looked back.

I had a liter of PG based nic go 'rank' rather quickly. Began to smell and taste like fish.. smelly socks.. NASTY.

Talked to a chemist professor friend. He did some research. Called me back and said VG might be better. Thicker means slower molecule movement or something like that.

So I ordered VG based nic from the same company I got the PG based from. Have not had the VG based nic take on that fishy smelly sock smell. Been using it for almost 6 years now.

Guess I need to give him a ring and see if he still feels the same about it.

But then again, if it ain't broke and all that jazz, why bother with changing it.
 
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I just broke out some MFS 100mg VG nic from the freezer {in a 4 oz glass bottle} that has been stored for 4 months. It gets extremely thick. After it became room temperature, I mixed it down. I was very happy that it is as crystal clear and odorless as the day I put it in the freezer. Good stuff IMO. :) :2c:

I have a freezer full. One can never have too much nic

6 or 7 months ago, I found a bottle in the freezer from 2010. :facepalm: Opened it and it tested 3 mg less than what I stored it at (did not have a test kit when I stored it. SO no idea. It may have been 3 mg under then as well) It is crystal clear and taste just fine.

I have a bottle that I was using when I found the 2010 bottle in the freezer. That nic is in a amber glass bottle. Cracked it open and it smells and tastes fine as well. It is 9 months old stored at room temp.

So VG for me as well.
 

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Well I hope you can freeze it and have it last 28 years cause that's how much I just ordered from MFS.

I vape 4mg NIC so I figure at my current rate, 4L should last me 28 years. I'll probably be gone before then but you never know, right? Lol

Actually I make some 12mg for a friend once every couple of weeks so I'll go through it faster than that.
 

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I did not know this.

Do you have some research I can read up on? Very Interesting.

I guess I had misunderstood this article over at nudenicotine.com -- it looks like it's the PG itself that has the longer shelf life, and not necessarily the nicotine that's dissolved in it:

PG is also a much better solvent for this purpose – it has an extremely low viscosity, will dissipate dispersed oxygen bubbles quickly (say that 4 times fast!), and has a longer shelf-life chemically (2 years from DOM, vs. VG – 1 year).
 

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N00b question:

I bought a liter of 50/50 PG/VG from this sale. I am beginning my journey to DIY piecemeal style. I will be grabbing more of my necessary components check-by-check (thus explaining that I have an actual need to DIY my juice).

I don't have any of the glass bottles yet to freeze it in; those will be in my next purchase (a week or two). So, here's my actual question: Can I freeze the nic (which arrived today) as-is, temporarily?
 
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