Mini Max Fusion

[Trips1103]

I just received the mini bloog (small battery and small case) .. and I have a few questions. I got this kit mainly for the novelty and convenience of it. (Just went on vacation with my eGo, and that just felt like too much work on the road, hence my desire for a small quick unit).

1 - The batteries are automatic. I wonder ... have others had problems with fluid getting into the battery because of the hole? I ordered a pack of their RY4, and a pack of blanks - I just want to know how careful to be with the blanks.

2 - How long do the batteries on the mini actually last?

also ..

I did not get any intro sheet with my items ...

I'm charging the PCC right now and it lit up blue. When do I know when it's charged? I have a battery charging on my computer and that is blue as well, when do I know when the battery is charged?

And lastly ...

What are the better/most commonly purchased cartomizers?

Thanks for your help.

 

[Mactrick]

Welcome Tripps,

juice can get into the battery if you over-fill / over-refill your cartos. A light blow of the cartomizer from the mouth-end, while holding a tissue or paper towel on the battery end will clear out any extra juice that may get into your battery. Wipe the threads dry before attaching your cart to your battery and you should be good.

My 65's (minis) last about 4 hrs., I vape a lot, so YMMV.

You can download the PCC manual here.

 

[Chinner]

I'll try to do this fast I'm on a cell phone!

First, contras on your bloog! Hope you love it!

As far as the batteries go, I'm a total noob and have had no problems at all with the juice. The pre filled ones should be safe always, and the blanks are not that bad either.

For cartomizers, you have to get the maxx fusion ones from bloog! They work amazing with the bloog batteries! I get between 25 and 35 drops per cart, which pretty much lasts me all day. Just keep dripping till you see a drop come out the battery end, blow it out onto a tissue, give it a wipe and you're in business! What I do to be safe, is fill a weeks supply and store them battery side up, so nothing drips down. Knock on wood it's been fine so far. And lastly you don't want to fill any carts while they're attached to the battery!

Lastly on to the Pcc! My batteries in the pcc last easily a full day. If you chain smoke it, expect around 2-3 hours of straight use, but if you smoke it like you would have smoked cigs, it should go at least half a day! What I do is swap the batteries every hour or two, or when I change carts just so the Pcc never has to fully charge an empty bat, just top them off all day!

When chargin the pcc, I read that it will all go dark when fully charged, so as long as the blue lights on the Pcc go out you'll be fine. The pcc is a little cheap, so don't count on the charge indicator too much, but overall it works like a charm!

Hope that helped a bit!

Good luck!

 

[Siciliansith]

I just received the mini bloog (small battery and small case) .. and I have a few questions. I got this kit mainly for the novelty and convenience of it. (Just went on vacation with my eGo, and that just felt like too much work on the road, hence my desire for a small quick unit).

1 - The batteries are automatic. I wonder ... have others had problems with fluid getting into the battery because of the hole? I ordered a pack of their RY4, and a pack of blanks - I just want to know how careful to be with the blanks.

2 - How long do the batteries on the mini actually last?

also ..

I did not get any intro sheet with my items ...

I'm charging the PCC right now and it lit up blue. When do I know when it's charged? I have a battery charging on my computer and that is blue as well, when do I know when the battery is charged?

And lastly ...

What are the better/most commonly purchased cartomizers?

Thanks for your help.

YOU GOT RY4 wtf lol

 

[want to quit]

What are the better/most commonly purchased cartomizers?

There are no better cartos then BMF cartos period!!!

I'm charging the PCC right now and it lit up blue. When do I know when it's charged? I have a battery charging on my computer and that is blue as well, when do I know when the battery is charged?

When the blue light in the front of your bloog goes off its fully charged

2 - How long do the batteries on the mini actually last?

Aprox 2 hrs depending on how much you vape

1 - The batteries are automatic. I wonder ... have others had problems with fluid getting into the battery because of the hole? I ordered a pack of their RY4, and a pack of blanks - I just want to know how careful to be with the blanks.

Just fill them up clean the atomizer end and wait a min if nothing comes out the atty end you good to go. Use it since 2 month and have not killed a bat yet and I mostly refill myself.


1. Remember to hold the button on your PCC for 3 seconds till you see that the bat end is blue that shows you that the PCC is charging your bat.

2. Enjoy your vacation

3. Just to say it again there are no better 808 cartos then Bloog maxx fusion !!!!

 

[want to quit]

if you smoke it like you would have smoked cigs, it should go at least half a day!

Sorry but that just aint right. I smoked a pack of cigs a day and maybe increased the amount I vape by 10% and the bat hardly lasts 2 hrs. Again YMMW but half a day is just crazy talk I love bloog but half a day ain't happening. Of course if you just smoked 3 cigs a day the half a day works out but not if you smoked a pack of cigs a day.

All the best to Canada

 

[Chinner]

With all due respect, you'd have to be smoking constantly to kill these batteries in 2 hours.

I'll have a half dozen drags or so when ever I'm craving, let's say once every half an hour, and I could make two of these batteries last all day without charging. My girlfriend will sometimes make it all day without charging. If you chain vape then yes maybe 2-3 hours, but if you vape like a normal smoker you should be fine.

As I said before, I'll change mine every couple hours, but not because they die, just so my PCC doesn't have to work so hard.

Don't be afraid of the mini you'll love it, and yes there's no better cartos then the maxx fusion!

Cheers!

 

[hawkfire1]

Approximately 2 hours is about right on the 65 battery with heavy vaping. I have never got 4 hours of straight use out of a 65 with the Bloog Maxxfusion, the Nhaler MF style or the Volt.

 

[pmos69]

Wellcome Trips, You've made a great choice.

Vaping time is not a very good indicator of the battery capacity because everybody has different vaping habits.
The amount of juice you can vape with a charge can be somewhat more useful.
A mini bat charge will usually get you though about half of a Bloog MaxxFusion cartomizer, and those hold about 1ml of liquid.
So I would say a charge will let you vape about 0,5ml of juice.
(1ml of juice on the other hand, should be roughly equivalent to a pack of cigarettes)

 

[Chinner]

Again there is huge difference between heavy vaping that kills a battery in 2 hours, and those that use these devices to help stop smoking like me.

Based on two hours battery life, and let's round up the time it takes to smoke a cig at 10 minutes. You should be able to vape at least 20 cigs worth on a battery, or at least 10-15 "sessions" with your bloog throughout the day. It is working exactly this way for me. I pull it out when I need it, and since I bought it, I've only killed a battery once with my switch often technique. I don't even bother bringing my Pcc charger to work anymore. I've yet to be stuck with dead batteries.

I do agree with pmos about "time" being a good measure as indeed we all vape differently. What's important is that you have success quitting cigs and that you have a PV you love. Once you get the hang of charging and cycling your batteries and determine how much you vape, I would suggest the worst you'll have to deal with is maybe buying a spare batt or pass through for backup!

Again, I am absolutely thrilled with mine.

 

[hawkfire1]

Strange, the OP didn't ask about battery capacity which is about 230-240MaH regulated at 3.7VDC. The OP asked
2 - How long do the batteries on the mini actually last?

Under real world conditions with the battery under load at 2-8 to 3.0 ohms you only have a Maximum battery time of 120 minutes tops without the use of the PCC of course.

I am curious as to how you have come to this conclusion.

(1ml of juice on the other hand, should be roughly equivalent to a pack of cigarettes)

Can you provide the source of this statement or especially provide some detailed info such as a math formula to support your claim?

I would greatly appreciate your sharing this knowledge

thank you

 

[Siciliansith]

i can smoke two packs a cigs in 6 hrs granted alot is ash time but i want it avail. hoping the ecig cuts me back

 

[hawkfire1]

Again there is huge difference between heavy vaping that kills a battery in 2 hours, and those that use these devices to help stop smoking like me.

Excuse me, so by your reasoning, people who are trying to quit and are heavy vapers don't quantify? Please elaborate more on this statement please.

Also, let's not turn this into something mystical or magical people, Maximum battery life is something that can be defined both mathematically and scientifically. There is no guesswork involved.

I think the OP was concerned about the possibility of getting stuck with a dead battery and planning ahead if battery life in REAL TIME sucked. I believe the OPs thinking is rightfully so since this is a new product for the OP.

After all, how many vendors overrate their battery capacity or better yet, don't give an average maximum battery life under load with thier product?

 

[redempti0N]

under moderate vaping the 65mm should last around 3 hours. if you are basically breathing thru the thing obviously its going to last alot less. like any other battery the more you use it the less it lasts between charges

 

[Chinner]

Hey again. First off I wasn't trying to be a ...., just answering the question to the best of my limited knowledge so far.

What I meant by the heavy vaper vs. The quitting thing is that most people will work and have their smoke breaks and lunches, and vape the way they used to smoke. When I suggest heavy vaper, I'm thinking a retired person chain vaping all day every day. The goal is usually the same, I would just suggest for those that never put the thing down all day, that maybe a mini Pcc kit isn't the ticket. For those that will maintain roughly the same frequency of use as a standard smoker, I think it will be more then fine to make it through most days, or at least has for me so far (knock on wood)


I was simply trying to answer the OP's question about real world performance, and so far mine and my girlfriends are performing fantastically.

 

[hawkfire1]

RedemptiON

Could you kindly elaborate more on what you consider moderate, average and heavy vaping in regards to the Maxxfusion please?

With my usage, I get about 2 hours with the 65 and a little under 3 hours with the 72 Maxxfusion batteries.

Since the 72 won't charge in the mini PCC, I just use a KR808D1 to 510 adapter and use a 510 clamshell PCC to charge it.

 

[redempti0N]

Okay, My 78mm battery lasts me around 7 hours of light vaping i.e a few 3 second drags every 30-45 mins. moderate vaping would be several 5 second drags every 30 mins or so and heavy vaping would be several 5 second drags every 5 mins.

 

[pmos69]

Strange, the OP didn't ask about battery capacity which is about 230-240MaH regulated at 3.7VDC. The OP asked
2 - How long do the batteries on the mini actually last?

Under real world conditions with the battery under load at 2-8 to 3.0 ohms you only have a Maximum battery time of 120 minutes tops without the use of the PCC of course.

I am curious as to how you have come to this conclusion.

(1ml of juice on the other hand, should be roughly equivalent to a pack of cigarettes)

Can you provide the source of this statement or especially provide some detailed info such as a math formula to support your claim?

I would greatly appreciate your sharing this knowledge

thank you

The MaxxFusion cartomizers are not 2.8-3 Ohms, they're 2.4-2.6 Ohms.

Regardless, the 1ml -> 1 carto estimate is roughly correct, yes.
If you want to test it you're welcome to try it.
With my old king size cigarettes, a cigarette would last about 15 puffs.
A BMF cartomizer will last you about 300 puffs.
Do the math.

You can also look at it from another angle:
e-cig and e-liquid suppliers will sell you liquid in various nicotine strengths from 0 to whatever, but they also provide you with rough equivalences of e-liquid nicotine concentration to cigarettes nicotine content.
A MB Red cigarette contains 0,8mg of nicotine -> a pack contains 18mgs of nicotine.
Guess what's the normal concentration for HIGH nicotine e-liquid? 16-18mg per ml.

Further: I was a 1.5 pack a day smoker for 25 years.
When I started vaping, my e-liquid consumption converged to about the same amount of nicotine I was consuming when smoking.
Using similar nicotine concentration, I ended up consuming about 2ml of e-liquid a day (well, I vape a bit more than I smoked)

 

[hawkfire1]

RedemptiON

Thank you for the clarification. I guess I vape really heavy on this Bloog and surprisingly enough haven't had any real issues with it.

What is surprising though, is that the 72 battery with maxxfusion carto lasts me about the length of time as the EGO 650 regulated at 3.2 with a 1.5 low res atomizer or the little sister VV (2 10440 3.7 batteries) with a Nhaler MF super cartomizer at 2.0 ohms.

Strange isn't it since I am positive that the maxxfusion 72 battery is nowhere rated near 650mh.

Chinner,

Sorry if I offended you there, but I wasn't quite sure of your meaning exactly, so like anything else, I asked for clarification.

Nothing personal there.

As far as chain vaping, well heh, I wouldn't recommend a PCC either, but rather the trifecta in passthrough mode with a usb hub or plug in adapter if they aren't going anywhere.

By the way, if chain vape the maxxfusion, I only get about 45 minutes on a 65 battery and theres also the issue of overheating the carto and making the liquid taste bad.

Ask me how I know, heh.

 

[pmos69]

hawkfire1,

The eGo at 3,2V (under load) with a 1.5 Ohm atty uses about 6.8 Watts
A BMF 3,6V regulated bat with a BMF carto (2.5 Ohm) uses about 5.1 Watts.

The eGo has 650mAh and the 78mm bat has about 320mAh, so the difference in power usage does not explain why they are lasting you the same time.
What you have to take into acount is that the mAh ratings are measured at a specific (somewhat low) current discharge rate, and that the overall useful capacity of a LiOn battery is greatly reduced at higher discharge rates.

When using a 1.5 Ohm atty in the eGo you are asking for more than 2 Amps from the battery, and that is even outside the specs for the eGo (the eGo switch is a mosfet, not really built for more than 2 Amps).
There are several suppliers of 1.5 Ohm attys/cartos that warn about them not being suitable for eGos.